where do you place scottie pippen on your all time list?

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 07:48 AM

you don't have to be specific, just like "top [something]"

Geno · 06-12-2013, 07:52 AM

Under mj

Wise Wiggles · 06-12-2013, 07:52 AM

Top Ten

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Whys Ways

Top Ten

you put him as, a top ten player, ever?

namix · 06-12-2013, 08:23 AM

It really is a great question. I was a die-hard cavs fan growing up in the times of an 'awesome team' who could never get by MJ's bulls.

during this times, pippen always seemed like just a tertiary player to MJ. I was surprised when he made it into the hall of fame --- but i guess i 'get it' too.

MJ is such an x-factor though --- Pippen may have not even been a household name at this point without MJ, who was constantly, and i mean CONSTANTLY doubled, AND skilled at making everyone around him better.... Pippen benefited immensely from this in terms of stats AND championships....

It's clear how MJ helped him BUT, it's worth considering how his presence hurt Pippen in terms of "what Pippen really contributed as an NBA player itself". I do not think Pippen would have been 'enough' to build a team around on his own -- but it is almost hard to say because of the MJ factor.

As such - all time list is kinda hard for me -- but i'd put him as "THE #1 of the #2 PLAYERS EVER"! He is probably the best of the second class/supporting cast players, again, supporting the best player ever (only maybe rivaled 10 or so years from now when LBJ hangs it up...)

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 08:25 AM

^so you place him where lol?

06-12-2013, 08:45 AM

lol what i got from that, and i agree (with wwhat i think namix was conveying)

hes prolly top 10 assist/supporting player
maybe top 50 all around
@namix

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 08:48 AM

ok

how about this

would you say chauncey billlups had a better career than pippen?

06-12-2013, 08:51 AM

hmmm... i unno... different time periods... diff teams... billups prolly was better all around...but with the team Pippen had, what he had to offer, made him more an asset imo.

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 08:57 AM

so you'd put pippen > billups?

06-12-2013, 09:01 AM

id put billups over pippen as an individual player
but pippen over billups as a team asset

God Of War · 06-12-2013, 11:12 AM

i dont think pippen is top 25 and he maybe would make my top 50

Chyeahhh!!! · 06-12-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by God Of War

i dont think pippen is top 25 and he maybe would make my top 50

nigga we are talking about Scottie Pippen and Jordan...not Jay and Memphis Bleek

Swerve · 06-12-2013, 11:32 AM

Top 20, maybe top 25 of all time.

I'd argue top 10 in his era of bball easily. People seem to forget the monster he was in the 2 years without Jordan and how good his overall game was that he adapted to serving the team.

Uncle Drew · 06-12-2013, 11:34 AM

Top 25.

Note: In today's game he could shut down & highly contend w/ LeBron.

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 11:34 AM

I think its blashpemy to say chauncey is better than him lol

idk

he's def in my top 20

06-12-2013, 11:36 AM

i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

...the Nagger · 06-12-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon

i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

word

I understand your point and I don't think you're wrong for it. I kind of agree.

Chyeahhh!!! · 06-12-2013, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rawn MacDon

i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

check Pippens stats for when Jordan retired the first time. Son was no slouch by any means

oats · 06-12-2013, 06:51 PM

top 25 easily. dude was definitely not just an asset to MJ. one of the best on-ball defenders all time, great all-around offensive game.

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06-12-2013, 08:23 AM	#5
namix been that, done there. Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 2,259 Battle Record: 2-1 Accomplishments - OM HOF Rep Power: 85246655	It really is a great question. I was a die-hard cavs fan growing up in the times of an 'awesome team' who could never get by MJ's bulls. during this times, pippen always seemed like just a tertiary player to MJ. I was surprised when he made it into the hall of fame --- but i guess i 'get it' too. MJ is such an x-factor though --- Pippen may have not even been a household name at this point without MJ, who was constantly, and i mean CONSTANTLY doubled, AND skilled at making everyone around him better.... Pippen benefited immensely from this in terms of stats AND championships.... It's clear how MJ helped him BUT, it's worth considering how his presence hurt Pippen in terms of "what Pippen really contributed as an NBA player itself". I do not think Pippen would have been 'enough' to build a team around on his own -- but it is almost hard to say because of the MJ factor. As such - all time list is kinda hard for me -- but i'd put him as "THE #1 of the #2 PLAYERS EVER"! He is probably the best of the second class/supporting cast players, again, supporting the best player ever (only maybe rivaled 10 or so years from now when LBJ hangs it up...) __________________ well fed.

06-12-2013, 08:45 AM	#7
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	lol what i got from that, and i agree (with wwhat i think namix was conveying) hes prolly top 10 assist/supporting player maybe top 50 all around @namix Last edited by Rawn M.D.; 06-12-2013 at 09:18 AM.

06-12-2013, 11:32 AM	#14
Swerve SDub Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,874 Battle Record: 40-34 Champed - Alias Tourney III (Heroes vs. Villians) - Fight Night LXIV - Netcees Battle League Rep Power: 64920327	Top 20, maybe top 25 of all time. I'd argue top 10 in his era of bball easily. People seem to forget the monster he was in the 2 years without Jordan and how good his overall game was that he adapted to serving the team. __________________ No Cap Gang.

06-12-2013, 07:48 AM	#1
...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,856 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781387	where do you place scottie pippen on your all time list? you don't have to be specific, just like "top [something]"

06-12-2013, 07:52 AM	#2
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06-12-2013, 08:25 AM	#6
...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,856 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781387	^so you place him where lol?

06-12-2013, 08:48 AM	#8
...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,856 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781387	ok how about this would you say chauncey billlups had a better career than pippen?

06-12-2013, 08:51 AM	#9
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	hmmm... i unno... different time periods... diff teams... billups prolly was better all around...but with the team Pippen had, what he had to offer, made him more an asset imo.

06-12-2013, 08:57 AM	#10
...the Nagger Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 2,856 Battle Record: 4-4 Rep Power: 15781387	so you'd put pippen > billups?

06-12-2013, 09:01 AM	#11
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	id put billups over pippen as an individual player but pippen over billups as a team asset

06-12-2013, 11:12 AM	#12
God Of War The Landlord Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,822 Battle Record: 12-10 Rep Power: 10493983	i dont think pippen is top 25 and he maybe would make my top 50

06-12-2013, 11:34 AM	#15
Uncle Drew Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 12 Battle Record: 1-1 Rep Power: 37	Top 25. Note: In today's game he could shut down & highly contend w/ LeBron.

06-12-2013, 11:36 AM	#17
Rawn M.D. Guest Posts: n/a	i just see Pippen as more a 'team' player then an 'individual' player...thats all..and there is NOTHING wrong with that in TEAM sports.

06-12-2013, 06:51 PM	#20
oats Steel Cut Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 5,084 Battle Record: 19-10 Accomplishments - OM HOF (2x) Champed - Fight Night LXXXIV - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 79005428	top 25 easily. dude was definitely not just an asset to MJ. one of the best on-ball defenders all time, great all-around offensive game.