the Kajieme Powell shooting video

[dead man]

released yesterday



http://www.newsweek.com/new-video-po...emerges-266041

not to mention, this is in ST. LOUIS

kid was half their size and armed with a knife (allegedly)

over 2 energy drinks.

i don't even know anymore..

[Drunken Master]

Knife or not, if the police yell "put the knife down" multiple times and you keep moving towards them yelling "shoot me"... what do you think is going to happen?

Shitty situation

[StarFaggot]

To shoot him that many times is excessive then to handcuff a corpse is ridiculous.

[Badweather]

Originally Posted by Aero

To shoot him that many times is excessive then to handcuff a corpse is ridiculous.

I did swat team training while in the military. We're taught to handcuff even seemingly non threats because you don't truly know if they're not a threat. Even innocent hostages get cuffed, it's to prevent loss of life.

[StarFaggot]

Originally Posted by Seadad

I did swat team training while in the military. We're taught to handcuff even seemingly non threats because you don't truly know if they're not a threat. Even innocent hostages get cuffed, it's to prevent loss of life.

There's a thing called common sense.

[Badweather]

Originally Posted by Aero

There's a thing called common sense.

Well, the dude I quoted obviously didn't understand that

[Ghost1]

Oh lawd

This gon spark up the race war again

I feel like we had reached a small bit of common ground since treyvon here on nc...this will not bode well


Couldnt they have just knee capped the kid tho? Iunno seemed pretty brutal.

[StarFaggot]

Originally Posted by Bags

Oh lawd

This gon spark up the race war again

I feel like we had reached a small bit of common ground since treyvon here on nc...this will not bode well


Couldnt they have just knee capped the kid tho? Iunno seemed pretty brutal.

A race war on netcees? Lol never. 95% white male of which 73% wants to be black.

[Drunken Master]

I truly don't want to start a debate.

Handcuffing is protocol. It's cold, it's fucked up, but they legally had to. As they can't "pronounce him dead" so they have to act as if he isn't. I'm sure they didn't like doing it either.

And the shots were in rapid succession, that lasted all of two seconds. That's pure adrenalin. A knee jerk reaction because if you watch careful he makes a quick lunge motion towards them.


I'm by no means defending them. But I do think this situation was pretty instigated.


As far as why they didn't shoot him in the leg, I think that's against protocol. I think leg shots are legally considered to be inhumane. If they're going to shoot their weapon I believe they're supposed to shoot to kill. I could be wrong about this though.

[Objective]

Originally Posted by Drunken Master

As far as why they didn't shoot him in the leg, I think that's against protocol. I think leg shots are legally considered to be inhumane.

Lmfao, ''leg shots inhumane'' but killing isn't? I don't know about y'all, but the U.S. police is on some third world country level.

Killing a guy because he is wielding a knife... No warning shots, nothing besides ''BACK OFF I'LL SHOOT''? Dude might be an idiot but doing what they did is laughable and straight up grade F police work. I mean, if that shit had happened over here the cops would have tried to calm him down and cough him, if it didn't work and he brings forth a knife they'd yell people to back off and 1 of the officers would go in circles to shield people away from him and end up having an officer on both sides. If he tried to launch at someone they'd narrow him down before he got to them. Mainly; keep him at a distance, call back-up and let a dog handle the business. And what about the taser you got over there? This is just fucked up...

No reason to kill/shoot the guy in this situation. Those people suck and should be discharged. I mean, serve and protect goes ways, the cops are there to protect the citizens as good as they can. Last time I checked criminals are citizens too.

[Ghost1]

Ehhhh those percentages seem high

I think most of us have outgrown our wigger stages

[dead man]

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

[Drunken Master]

Originally Posted by dead man

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

They are. Lethal force is supposed to be a last resort.

I want to be clear that I'm not trying to say that the cops were right in this situation. I wasn't there. I do think they acted within their "rights" just based off the video though.

They had their guns out almost immediately upon exiting their cars.


This could be because they're trigger happy.

However it could have also been because whoever called them there had already seen the knife. Or maybe it's a neighborhood with a lot of gun violence. Maybe whoever called the police exaggerated the situation and the severity putting the police on alert.

Then when the police arrived he had his hand in his pocket and wouldn't remove it (yelling at them to shoot him) and then lunged.

I know watching the video quite a bit of time passed, but those situations are much harder to gauge if you're right there in the thick of it. They don't get to pause it and see if there is a better option. They went from yelling, to (in their minds) defending themselves. Didn't really have time to swap out for the tazer.

[Zen]

Originally Posted by Drunken Master

They are. Lethal force is supposed to be a last resort.

I want to be clear that I'm not trying to say that the cops were right in this situation. I wasn't there. I do think they acted within their "rights" just based off the video though.

They had their guns out almost immediately upon exiting their cars.


This could be because they're trigger happy.

However it could have also been because whoever called them there had already seen the knife. Or maybe it's a neighborhood with a lot of gun violence. Maybe whoever called the police exaggerated the situation and the severity putting the police on alert.

Then when the police arrived he had his hand in his pocket and wouldn't remove it (yelling at them to shoot him) and then lunged.

I know watching the video quite a bit of time passed, but those situations are much harder to gauge if you're right there in the thick of it. They don't get to pause it and see if there is a better option. They went from yelling, to (in their minds) defending themselves. Didn't really have time to swap out for the tazer.

"As tensions continue to flare over Brown's death, many question the circumstances under which the law justifies a police officer's use of deadly force. When faced with a perceived threat, why don't officers shoot to wound rather than shoot to kill?

The reason, according to law enforcement officials and experts on police accountability, is simple: Officers have long been trained to shoot to kill because that is the only way they say they can neutralize a threat. The idea of shooting someone in a limb is fiction.

"That's a Hollywood myth," John Firman, director of research, programs, and professional services at the International Association of Chiefs of Police, told The Huffington Post. "In all policy everywhere on force in any law enforcement agency in America, the bottom line statement should read: If you feel sufficiently threatened or if lives are threatened and you feel the need that you must use lethal force, then you must take out the suspect."

Firman said shooting to wound is impractical because "the likelihood of success is low." The officer may miss the target, leaving both the police and the public at risk, he said."

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/08...-not-to-wound/

[big baby]

Originally Posted by dead man

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

he supposedly had a weapon. Nigga this aint OSAMA BIN LADEN FOUND DEAD OR ALIVE NGIGA THIS IS SHOOT THE BITCH WITH A WEAPON.

Knee caps? Motherfucker just kill me.

[Diode]

Originally Posted by dead man

the knee cap was my exact thought.

never been through police training but i was under the impression that officers were trained to use non-deadly force to neutralize violent suspects if ever possible.

wrong.

[Greed]

If they shoot at all they going for the kill. No point in letting him live to sue the force and get people fired.

This I understand.

Its how quick they are to shoot is the unforgivable issue

[Ghost1]

Yea....but that logic is flawed....i mean his family will still pursue litigation against the force obv....and likely more agressively since he was killed

[Greed]

Just watched.

Wtf was that nigga doing.

[Ghost1]

The small excerpt i read said that the store clerk an the store accross tye street reported the kid had a knife

Its the same debate really tho as it ever is in these scenarios....

The police are granted their position to make split decisions involving life or death situations vs the police over reacted

Its not much to say that hasnt been said before