is Snowden's nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize worst ever?

[oats]

nope. That would probably go to Mussolini in 1935, Hitler in 1939, or either of Stalin's 1945 or 1948 nominations.

[Fig]

dude that's insane

[...the Nagger]

great answers to your own question

him being nominated seems to fall in line once you see those names

[anime_boners]

Originally Posted by ...the Munster

great answers to your own question

him being nominated seems to fall in line once you see those names

hold up

he let people know our government was illegally spying on its own people, and you're putting him in line with Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini..?

[...the Nagger]

no not in the same category

but in the category of how is this keeping peace

exaggerating gov intel to attempt to ensue riots

[...the Nagger]

I seen him spin a story about how gov funding is used to purchase child sex slaves in afghan

like cmon son do ppl really think he was helping

I almost want to not believe that the gov didn't plant him but its almost obv

same as these NSA stories coming out everyday now

I hate watching national news smh, its like c'mon the scripted corniness and fear mongering is really, really getting old man

[Objective]

Chillax, he was just nominated... By two dudes or something. Just because someone gets HoF Nom doesn't mean it'll get there. Either way I like Snowden being nominated, on my phone, can explain why laters if anyones interested.

Either way; Obama winning it was a wtf moment for me.

[...the Nagger]

I also didn't agree with obama

he's the leader of our military wtf

[uh-oh]

yea i was gonna say didnt obama win it even though he has drone strikes and cruise missiles hitting innocents basically EVERY SINGLE DAY

and anyone who is with snowden deserves to be stabbed in the neck with a rusty shovel and kicked into a mass grave

he's a coward, he's a faggot, and he's a traitor who commited treason. he should be shot in the back of the head and dumped into the caspian sea

[Split]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

yea i was gonna say didnt obama win it even though he has drone strikes and cruise missiles hitting innocents basically EVERY SINGLE DAY

and anyone who is with snowden deserves to be stabbed in the neck with a rusty shovel and kicked into a mass grave

he's a coward, he's a faggot, and he's a traitor who commited treason. he should be shot in the back of the head and dumped into the caspian sea

Along with the govt officials who committed treason

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Split Eight

Along with the govt officials who committed treason

what officials you talking about yo?

serious ? name names

[detour]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

yea i was gonna say didnt obama win it even though he has drone strikes and cruise missiles hitting innocents basically EVERY SINGLE DAY

and anyone who is with snowden deserves to be stabbed in the neck with a rusty shovel and kicked into a mass grave

he's a coward, he's a faggot, and he's a traitor who commited treason. he should be shot in the back of the head and dumped into the caspian sea

wow man I wholeheartedly disagree...u think the government should be allowed to run amock an do what the fuck ever they want with nobody talking about it? maybe u underestimate how close our country is getting to totalitarianism...if nobody exposed the shit they are doing then it would just keep getting worse at an even faster rate than it already is...

as for allegations of child sex slaves being purchased by the government, it's not at all outside the realm of possibilities...ted gunderson, the LAPD detective who exposed the CIA for trafficking coke, also exposed a whole lot of shit about the CIA's involvement in child trafficking for the purpose of satanic ritual abuse...there was a whole national news story about it when it happened...

elementary school children testified that they were taken into the woods during school hours an forced to participate in satanic rituals with politicians, famous actors an actresses, an professional sports players...tunnels were uncovered beneath the school that had been back filled shortly before the investigation went public...children's clothes, lunch boxes an more were all found in the tunnels...

a concrete structure was found in the same area the children testified they thought they had been taken too...there were paintings of all types of satanic imagery an demonic figures, as well as altars set up an shit...look up the CIA Finders organization at some point...

if snowden deserves to be shot in the head for tryna expose just how serious the violations against our civil rights are, then u deserve to be shot in the head for suggesting they shouldn't be held accountable for it, an for suggesting that a man should be murdered an labeled a traitor for revealing the truth about what's been going on...

our government is the real traitor...for the people, by the people, remember? snowden betrayed the government, not the country, which is the people...when the government no longer represents the best interests of the people, it is their duty to expose an remove it, per our founding fathers own words...we shoulda overthrown these corrupt mufuckahs a long time ago tbh...

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by detour

wow man I wholeheartedly disagree...u think the government should be allowed to run amock an do what the fuck ever they want with nobody talking about it? maybe u underestimate how close our country is getting to totalitarianism...if nobody exposed the shit they are doing then it would just keep getting worse at an even faster rate than it already is...

if snowden deserves to be shot in the head for tryna expose just how serious the violations against our civil rights are, then u deserve to be shot in the head for suggesting they shouldn't be held accountable for it, an for suggesting that a man should be murdered an labeled a traitor for revealing the truth about what's been going on...

our government is the real traitor...for the people, by the people, remember? snowden betrayed the government, not the country, which is the people...when the government no longer represents the best interests of the people, it is their duty to expose an remove it, per our founding fathers own words...we shoulda overthrown these corrupt mufuckahs a long time ago tbh...

i agree with most of your sentiments

but you are wrong of course. snowden did NOTHING

NOTHING to help the common american.

he isn't exposing tyranny, he isn't a hero. he has singlehandedly strained US relations with our FUCKING ALLIES as well as our enemies, while telling us shit we already know

when you go in the bank and see they got surveillance cameras are you getting all uppity about your rights as an american? they can't film me! shut up nigga. its a necessary evil in the world we live in today

if the government wants to see who i talk to from day to day why should i give a fuck? i aint starting a revolution, i aint cavorting with terrorists. im a fucking american. i live in a country where i can eat doritos and carry a fire arm

they aren't OPPRESSING ME. when they become OPPRESSIVE and show signs of TYRANNY then you are supposed to rise to overthrow them.

explain to me how the government is a traitor. because somewhere in a database it shows you called fat tina to bring you some mcdonalds?

[detour]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

i agree with most of your sentiments

but you are wrong of course. snowden did NOTHING

NOTHING to help the common american.

he isn't exposing tyranny, he isn't a hero. he has singlehandedly strained US relations with our FUCKING ALLIES as well as our enemies, while telling us shit we already know

when you go in the bank and see they got surveillance cameras are you getting all uppity about your rights as an american? they can't film me! shut up nigga. its a necessary evil in the world we live in today

if the government wants to see who i talk to from day to day why should i give a fuck? i aint starting a revolution, i aint cavorting with terrorists. im a fucking american. i live in a country where i can eat doritos and carry a fire arm

they aren't OPPRESSING ME. when they become OPPRESSIVE and show signs of TYRANNY then you are supposed to rise to overthrow them.

explain to me how the government is a traitor. because somewhere in a database it shows you called fat tina to bring you some mcdonalds?

lets see...

central banking was the primary reason the pilgrims left england an the government instituted it here, despite an overpowering opinion that it was an evil practice, which it has shown itself to be...

do enough research into 9/11 an it's plain to see the government was behind it...not to mention, the gulf of tonkin incident was a false flag attack an the documents verifying that have been declassified...

the documents about MK ULTRA were declassified, proving that even if mind control is bullshit, the CIA spent several years kidnapping an torturing american citizens in an attempt to develop manchurian candidates...

fiat currency was banned from being used in america by the constitution, specifically to prevent central banking from being possible, yet the government began printing it shortly after robbing the american people for their gold with the threat of 10 years imprisonment...

executive orders were passed giving the federal government the right to, when a government official declares a state of emergency, take ur guns, ur food (including those doritos u mentioned), ur car, ur money, any forms of communication, as well as place u (or anyone) in a "mandatory civilian work brigade, " an force entire population groups to relocate to designated centers for processing (fema camps, anyone?)...WHY should this concern u? A STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS DECLARED IN GEORGIA CUZ OF TWO INCHES OF SNOWFALL...now the police didn't disarm everyone an take their food, but LEGALLY, they were entitled to...over 2 fucking inches of snow...

the government lied about weapons of mass destruction in iraq, an low an behold we find our years later that saddam was about to break the petro dollar cycle by accepting non american currency for oil, when we suddenly were told he was a threat...check out opec an the petro dollar recycling system if u doubt me...

it has been well documented that the great depression was caused by jp morgan, whose family to this day is deeply tied in with government an finance...

free speech has now been restricted to not be a right in zones that fall within so many feet of federal buildings...the government has collected unimaginable amounts of records on our phone calls, emails, text messages an Internet searches illegally...

the NDAA of 2012 declared the united states a legal warzone, which may not trip u out right now since ur not seeing tables on the streets, but should give u major cause for concern cuz it legally means the military can police american cities, as they would be acting as a military force in a warzone, instead of a domestic police force...the practical application would be the exact same thing, but cuz of how its worded it circumvents constitutional protections against a military police force...

I can keep going if u would like to know more ways the government has violated its constitutional charter an thus committed treason against the people of the united states...if our founding fathers were here today they would have taken up arms against the government years ago tbh...

beyond that, why should it be the government's right to stop u from starting a revolution, if u were (since u mentioned that)? u do realize that revolution/revolts are actually rights of the people according to the constitution, right? an these days terrorism has such a broad definition that it can mean almost anything, to a degree...

bur whether or not ur doing anything is besides the point...the government is supposed top be controlled by the people an accountable to the laws which validate its existence...however, thats not the case...who cares if the government tracks everything u do??????!!!!! are u serious????????!!!!! has it occurred to u that maybe there's a reason certain restrictions were put on the government?????? by the men who created it, no less???? the world isn't any more evil today than its ever been...hate to break it to u, but it's always been an evil place an always will be, there's no difference between now an the past besides technology...

we live in a caste system: a ruling class with all the money, weapons, an the right to do as they please, then a pleasant class with all the debt, labor, an the right to do what the rulers tell them they can...thats not freedom, that's u being allowed to dip what someone else decides u can...its not like the ruling class abides the same laws we do or suffers the same punishments for crimes...

did u know that all felonies result in the permanent loss of gun rights, EXCEPT those involving corporate financial crimes, an stock market frauds?so, in essence, u lost ur rights forever unless ur rich enough to rob the american people for millions or billions, in which case u can still own a gun...

does none of this seem a betrayal of trust against the people to u?

[dead man]

Originally Posted by detour

wow man I wholeheartedly disagree...u think the government should be allowed to run amock an do what the fuck ever they want with nobody talking about it? maybe u underestimate how close our country is getting to totalitarianism...if nobody exposed the shit they are doing then it would just keep getting worse at an even faster rate than it already is...

as for allegations of child sex slaves being purchased by the government, it's not at all outside the realm of possibilities...ted gunderson, the LAPD detective who exposed the CIA for trafficking coke, also exposed a whole lot of shit about the CIA's involvement in child trafficking for the purpose of satanic ritual abuse...there was a whole national news story about it when it happened...

elementary school children testified that they were taken into the woods during school hours an forced to participate in satanic rituals with politicians, famous actors an actresses, an professional sports players...tunnels were uncovered beneath the school that had been back filled shortly before the investigation went public...children's clothes, lunch boxes an more were all found in the tunnels...

a concrete structure was found in the same area the children testified they thought they had been taken too...there were paintings of all types of satanic imagery an demonic figures, as well as altars set up an shit...look up the CIA Finders organization at some point...

if snowden deserves to be shot in the head for tryna expose just how serious the violations against our civil rights are, then u deserve to be shot in the head for suggesting they shouldn't be held accountable for it, an for suggesting that a man should be murdered an labeled a traitor for revealing the truth about what's been going on...

our government is the real traitor...for the people, by the people, remember? snowden betrayed the government, not the country, which is the people...when the government no longer represents the best interests of the people, it is their duty to expose an remove it, per our founding fathers own words...we shoulda overthrown these corrupt mufuckahs a long time ago tbh...

wtf

source?

[trap.]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

and anyone who is with snowden deserves to be stabbed in the neck with a rusty shovel and kicked into a mass grave

he's a coward, he's a faggot, and he's a traitor who commited treason. he should be shot in the back of the head and dumped into the caspian sea

WINNER.

[uh-oh]

splits talking out of his ass

snowden exposed we collect metadata, meaning if i called eddie, they have a record that it happened. we didnt need the nsa for that. all this screwed over is the companies that usually just sell that info to the government. you dont think the govt cant get your at&t info?

the treason commited is it also showed we collect metadata on non civilians

like the french were freaked out we were spying on there prime minister or president whatever they got over there

but thats just smart government. snodwen is straining our relationships with our ALLIES.

you can say well why are we spying on our allies

BECAUSE THATS WHAT GOVERNMENTS DO. you think we don't want to know if france is cutting deals with some saudi's on the low? would you want the veil pulled over your eyes while the world conspires to destroy us?

get real

everyone spies. right now there is a french spy somewhere in our government. thats the world

if we spyy on there phones, THEY DONT NEED TO KNOW

how do you think a precinct would feel if a shitty beat cop went and told marlo that they got a wire tap on him. it ruins the whole investigation all because some faggot ran his mouth

kill him.

he didnt bring any atrocities to light, anyone with a brain knew our phone calls have been getting spied on since the patriot act or whatever that bush put through

WAKE UP

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

splits talking out of his ass

snowden exposed we collect metadata, meaning if i called eddie, they have a record that it happened. we didnt need the nsa for that. all this screwed over is the companies that usually just sell that info to the government. you dont think the govt cant get your at&t info?

the treason commited is it also showed we collect metadata on non civilians

like the french were freaked out we were spying on there prime minister or president whatever they got over there

but thats just smart government. snodwen is straining our relationships with our ALLIES.

you can say well why are we spying on our allies

BECAUSE THATS WHAT GOVERNMENTS DO. you think we don't want to know if france is cutting deals with some saudi's on the low? would you want the veil pulled over your eyes while the world conspires to destroy us?

get real

everyone spies. right now there is a french spy somewhere in our government. thats the world

if we spyy on there phones, THEY DONT NEED TO KNOW

how do you think a precinct would feel if a shitty beat cop went and told marlo that they got a wire tap on him. it ruins the whole investigation all because some faggot ran his mouth

kill him.

he didnt bring any atrocities to light, anyone with a brain knew our phone calls have been getting spied on since the patriot act or whatever that bush put through

WAKE UP

thats my whole beef with him really, he did nothing useful with his info. at all period

nothing useful (to us) came from this. how tf was he helpin us?

nobody can tell you how. they just gonna say he told us we get spied on

[uh-oh]

i was looking at the local news, and some drunks stole a dog warden van, and crashed it into the dog warden building

there was a poll, they got 5 years probation and the poll asked if they deserved prison time. it was 21 year old kids, drunk and bored in canton ohio. they fucked up, but i hit no on the poll because they dont deserve prison for that. all they hurt was the cities money. so if a judge who is PAID BY THE CITY declares probation is enough thats enough for me.

it was 99 percent tho, the people wanted these kids IMPRISONED

yet meanwhile you got this idiot snowden, and probably 90 percent of you retards don't think he deserves the death penalty

he should be beheaded and thrown off a cliff

bradley the freakshow manning deserves much more than death, but sadly thats all we as mortals can grant him. he really deserves it.

its like yo. if we are a group of hunters in a post apocalyptic world, and one hunter is dumb and making everything we do that much harder, WE KILL THAT IDIOT.

snowden is that idiot.

[oats]

I'm not anti-Snowden at all, to be clear. but I can think of a handful of people off the top of my head who have actually affected the state of peace in the world, unlike Snowden. I wasn't grouping him with the aforementioned dictators to say that he is of similar integrity or character, just that there have been more ridiculous nominations in the past.

and for the record, Obama winning was a joke, as was Arafat, and even this previous year's winner (coalition against chemical weapons) was a joke since we're still waiting for Syria to actually do anything.