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Old 04-06-2015, 09:54 AM   #1
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Default i'm really trying to figure out religion

like i feel i'm not stupid enough to be religious. but then i feel i'm being too harsh on those religious. they probably aren't stupid. they are just ignorant of certain facts.

but then i think like, there are people who know alot of the facts but still choose to be religious. and thats where i'm like, i dunno, i can't figure out if they are stubborn, just stuck in there ways, or if they are actually stupid.

also i was thinking too. jews and the messiah. the jews claim jesus wasn't the messiah. they still wait for the messiah to come and save them. but yo, what if religions are real for the sake of this line of stoned sunday morning reasoning. and jesus WAS the jewish messiah. as i've detailed before he was crucified between two thieves, and they wrote king of the jews above him to let everyone know what would happen right. well as i've detailed before, the jewish word for thief translated to greek is bandit, and bandits were REBELS in the roman vernacular. so jesus the king of jews was crucified between two other rebels with the designation of KING.

so my theory obviously is he was rallying the jews to get the roman occupation out of palestine, he was the jewish messiah, the son of god sent to get the pagans out of the holy land and he would unite the jews blah blah. he gathered a following/army, he was beloved by the common jew, and hated by the jews in power because the jews in power were in the pockets of the roman overlords

and he failed. he was caught, scourged and crucified.

so if there is any god to believe in, it would be MARS, or JUPITER. i guess it would be jupiter since it wasn't a battle fought and jupiter was zeus basically the god of all roman gods. jupiter won.

jupiter and his followers quelled the rebellion of the jew god. sons of jupiter killed the son of yahweh or whatever.

yet people aren't roman pagans anymore. somehow they worship a loser.

just random sunday morning thoughts for this dead text board.
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You've already made a variation of this topic.

Religious people aren't stupid. Well, some of them are. The percentage of stupid religious people is the same as the percentage of stupid atheists. Someone believing in religion does not make them any less intelligent than someone who doesn't. That's the facts.

You're a hipster. "No bro, it's not Jesus. We actually need to believe in THOR MARS!" The only reason you give any credence to those Roman gods is because they aren't the current major religious force. If you lived in the Roman days you'd be at the marketplace yelling about Sumerian gods being the real deity, but not really because they don't EXIST.

I'm an atheist. But I'd rather hang out with a religious person who doesn't mind atheists than an atheist who feels superior intellectually to religious folk just based on his lack of faith. Come off it.
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:20 PM   #7
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You've already made a variation of this topic.

Religious people aren't stupid. Well, some of them are. The percentage of stupid religious people is the same as the percentage of stupid atheists. Someone believing in religion does not make them any less intelligent than someone who doesn't. That's the facts.

You're a hipster. "No bro, it's not Jesus. We actually need to believe in THOR MARS!" The only reason you give any credence to those Roman gods is because they aren't the current major religious force. If you lived in the Roman days you'd be at the marketplace yelling about Sumerian gods being the real deity, but not really because they don't EXIST.

I'm an atheist. But I'd rather hang out with a religious person who doesn't mind atheists than an atheist who feels superior intellectually to religious folk just based on his lack of faith. Come off it.
im agnostic if there was a word for my brains thinkings that would be the closest.

we shouldn't believe in any gods. we shouldnt also believe there isnt "god(s)"

the main reason being is no one knows. we all begin on the fence of sanity, the majority of people fall off at one time or another in their lives. one side is religion. the other is atheism. the middle, on the fence is sanity. now the problem is, the fence is old. it leans to one side. its basically falling into religion.

so when you fall from sanity to religion its much harder to get back on the fence. in atheist land its a smooth slope to sanity. in religion its like an upside down climb back onto the fence

i'm high so WHAT

my main point is no one knows. thats where all the evidence points. you can be ignorant to evidence. thats fine. that doesn't make you stupid. but when you are presented with the evidence, digest it and stay with your ignorant barbarous belief system, that is stupid. stubborn. mental retardation. your brain retarded the ability to make sense of a certain focal point in peoples common thoughts.

therefore they are stupid. and so are you.

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It's less about intelligence and what you know, and more about emotion, or your state of mind, I think.

Some people need it just to get through each day.

Some people don't.

I can completely understand why it is comforting to believe if you are good in this life you will be rewarded for eternity. That would be pretty cool. I get why it helps people.
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Believing in god or gods is fine. The greater issue is the corruption of organized religion, which has been going on for 10,000 years.
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I wonder if animals believe in religion. Like wtf. Dogs? Hawk? Lions? Who the fuck do they pray to? Foxes nigga?
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You've already made a variation of this topic.

Religious people aren't stupid. Well, some of them are. The percentage of stupid religious people is the same as the percentage of stupid atheists. Someone believing in religion does not make them any less intelligent than someone who doesn't. That's the facts.

You're a hipster. "No bro, it's not Jesus. We actually need to believe in THOR MARS!" The only reason you give any credence to those Roman gods is because they aren't the current major religious force. If you lived in the Roman days you'd be at the marketplace yelling about Sumerian gods being the real deity, but not really because they don't EXIST.

I'm an atheist. But I'd rather hang out with a religious person who doesn't mind atheists than an atheist who feels superior intellectually to religious folk just based on his lack of faith. Come off it.
This.....of course i believe in god and that Jesus died for my sins.
Are their inconsistences, yea. But so does alot of science. Imo. It's all about faith...

Ps...just putting my 2 cents in. Not going to be sucked into another religious troll. Happy resurrection day\easter....
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JOKES aside, I grew up in the church, and while I don't personally subscribe to theology of any sort much, I have little tolerance for religion bashers. I've seen countless examples of people who made huge positive life improvements because of their church involvement. I tend to get really annoyed and contrarian around atheists. that's just me, though.
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my mom is super religious. jesus died for her sins fasho.

she thinks when she dies she is gonna be in heaven with her mom, and eventually me and my sister and we're gonna live in paradise forever.

but thats not heaven for ME. i don't want to live with my mom and sister forever. i want to live with a thousand halle berrys salma hayeks and nameless booty models. i want it to be a neverending food orgy where im just fucking and eating everything.

how could both heavens exist? how could i be in heaven with my mom, and having a fuck orgy?

THOSE AREN'T REAL QUESTIONS. ITS NONSENSE.

i just don't understand the religious mind. i understand in a way its admitting ignorance and just picking the side you've been inundated with. its even shoring up your bets like hell it might be wrong, but on the slim chance its right i'll be loling at uhoh in HADES while im up in heaven with jesus and st peter like a boss

but i mean, i dunno. doesn't make sense to me.

as far as the CHURCH we all know its a corrupt fucked up system, but church itself in principle isnt a bad thing. its full of dummies sure, but they are all positive and sit through lectures in nice clothes and then everyone shakes hands and spreads positivity while filling the pockets of con artists.

but its still positive, so i understand it helping people. its a social setting where no one is going to fuck with you, its about helping eachother and shit.
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And he didn't even have to get crucified, all he did was put on a monocle and that was enough for him to be worshipped as a God.
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I was pretty close to a coyote about 45 minutes ago. Felt his energy. His freeness. Felt his uncaged demeanor. Then I kept it going..
it's comments like this that make me know me and you would get along IRL.
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