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Originally Posted by uh-oh
we have some misconceptions here but i'll answer your points by the numbers
2. i've still yet to mention intelligence, you bring it up. i mention it in the sense that we can't quantify it in the sense that its passed on. like i said einsteins parents were dolts. his kids are regular dummies too. intelligence as i understand it is a crapshoot. the smartest people can have dumbass kids and vice versa.
as far as BEAUTY, beauty is absolutely quantifiable through evolutionary science. we all have preferences, but across recorded history, and across every single culture, women go for taller men, broader shoulders etc., and men seek the hourglass figure. we like wide hips and fat asses because it helps with child rearing. we like big tits cuz it can nourish the offspring better, as well as the extra fat just helps the child in UTERO. but from ancient times to modern times the hourglass figure is revered, like i said we all vary in preferences, some guys like really skinny chicks with boy bodies. but we are working with averages here, and there is a reason instagram models with nice asses and tits have millions of followers, there is a reason certain pornstars are more popular than others etc. i'm sure you're thinking of maybe victorian times when paintings had goofy fat women in them and we're taught oh they liked fat women then, but keep in mind if you were fat you were well off, and also even those fat women would dress in dresses that got huge and puffy at the hips and tight at the waist with a corset with the tits smashed and pushed up. accentuating the hourglass figure you can see in every culture celebrated.
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Okay, so we'll leave intelligence alone for now since we haven't defined what you mean by "intelligence" for now anyway. Even though you talked on "beauty", you mentioned quite a few athletes in LeBron/Serena/Brock and so I think what you're actually looking for is "Health".
Beauty it is, emperor Uh-oh. You have your definition of what beauty is. Unfortunately for you, not every man alive agrees (as seen in Bags recent attempt to upgrade grocery store Tinderella to a strong 6).
Why does this not happen automatically?
-Low standards by men. IIRC it was Helen Gurley-Brown who remarked, "men will schtupp mud." Considering what's pushing around baby strollers either, this is very true or they have some deep inner beauty... very deep.
-Some health problems - heart issues, breast cancer, alzheimers - tend to not appear until breeding selection and actvity has passed. If we were actively selecting for good traits, these would not be identified.
-Many (especially late in life) health issues also relate to environmental factors, so selection does not matter. Many we still have no idea about the real cause.
-Modern medicine and other technology is actually working to send us backwards. Not only do people with poor vision, for example, have glasses that allow them to avoid being culled by random accidents, they also have contact lenses so the defect is not evident during the mating phase.
-Similarly, modern techniques with cosmetics, cosmetic surgery, etc. hide the effects of poor genes during the mating phase.
-Similarly, we have welfare, medicare, etc. that allow the less capable to continue to reproduce, when social as well as medical circumstances might have limited the number or survivability of offspring. Also, we have birth control for the upper class, meaning the successful have more incentive and means to reduce their offspring which would cut into the lifestyle and toys they can have.
essentially the rule of thumb is probably that it's 50-50; so a not-so-smart person with a good education and training can outperform a smart lazy bastard.
-Success and more offspring does not correlate with smarts or fitness. Who is better suited for passing on their relatively lesser quality genes? Trump seems to have more children than Einstein...