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Masaii 11-01-2013 03:21 PM

ITT: Why God exists
 
Debate ITT.

veritas 11-01-2013 03:28 PM

I will start and end this thread homey.


we are given two choices as to how we exist.

1. god made us
2. we evolved.


I say that God exists because we are here. I say that because evolution is the easiest thing in the world to disprove.

carry on.

namix 11-01-2013 04:49 PM

Because life is a fractal relationship between infinite micro and macrocosms; as above, so below; the good and bad we see in others is also in ourselves, and that inter-connectivity is also a reflection of what is more and what is less.

And that inter-connectivity manifests onward and upward, inward and outward, at an exponential rate and fractal shape.

The fractal is all encompassing, "we were created in His image" - and thus, we create in our image. Whether through genetics - or whether through innovative feats of exceeding our own brain processing power and storage.

Neither good nor bad - He is wholly holy and holy wholly; perceiving ourselves finite pieces and not perceiving the infinite puzzle we are apart of.

The yin and the yang of infinite and finite create the infinite decimals between 0 and 1 --- the gray area between "yes" and "no" -- which enables us to experience... it sets the stage for polarity --- and relativity, both scientifically and emotionally.

...it also sets the stage for making us perceive ourselves as 'separate bodies' from the greater body.

Alas, the inter-connectivity of all things across infinite microcosms, macrocosms, and ALL TIME echoes the same truth time and time again -- that we deafen our ears to because of our fear of "death" and the NEED to hang on to our puzzle piece... the need to validate our ego.

We are parts; we are connected; He is whole; We are one. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

PancakeBrah 11-01-2013 05:00 PM

Oh, a God debate.

Groundbreaking, Masaii.

Diode 11-01-2013 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah (Post 196465)
Oh, a God debate.

Groundbreaking, Masaii.

you forgot the picture. it would have been perfect between your first sentence and your last sentence.

opportunity missed.

PancakeBrah 11-01-2013 05:10 PM

:(

oats 11-01-2013 05:22 PM

Oats da gawd, proof He exists, no need for a why.

/thread

Meth 11-01-2013 05:40 PM

Over/under on replies for this?

Over/under on religious butt hurt totals?

Ghost1 11-01-2013 05:45 PM

Each day i contemplate never logging in again.....

Threads like these are very helpful....

Nahhh 11-01-2013 05:49 PM

What if god was a midget? I woudn't respect him.

TYSON 11-01-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namix (Post 196453)
Because life is a fractal relationship between infinite micro and macrocosms; as above, so below; the good and bad we see in others is also in ourselves, and that inter-connectivity is also a reflection of what is more and what is less.

And that inter-connectivity manifests onward and upward, inward and outward, at an exponential rate and fractal shape.

The fractal is all encompassing, "we were created in His image" - and thus, we create in our image. Whether through genetics - or whether through innovative feats of exceeding our own brain processing power and storage.

Neither good nor bad - He is wholly holy and holy wholly; perceiving ourselves finite pieces and not perceiving the infinite puzzle we are apart of.

The yin and the yang of infinite and finite create the infinite decimals between 0 and 1 --- the gray area between "yes" and "no" -- which enables us to experience... it sets the stage for polarity --- and relativity, both scientifically and emotionally.

...it also sets the stage for making us perceive ourselves as 'separate bodies' from the greater body.

Alas, the inter-connectivity of all things across infinite microcosms, macrocosms, and ALL TIME echoes the same truth time and time again -- that we deafen our ears to because of our fear of "death" and the NEED to hang on to our puzzle piece... the need to validate our ego.

We are parts; we are connected; He is whole; We are one. Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Wisdom

uh-oh 11-01-2013 06:20 PM

VERITAS I'LL BITE

DISPROVE EVOLUTION

Dope girl 11-01-2013 08:46 PM

If you don't how exist then focus on bible.

Tom Sparks 11-01-2013 10:02 PM

God only exists in your mind

Destroyer 11-01-2013 10:18 PM

I think there may be a god but certainly man has no idea how to properly conceive him.
no religion has any handle on what god is nor will anyone ever have any true grasp on it, regardless what anyone may write down or tell you.
man can barely write down news correctly that happened last Tuesday so there's no reason to believe there is some incorruptible holy text that has somehow been passed down over thousands of years
god is a mystery that man invented because it's an answer to the great unknown that man has always faced.
and it will always remain a mystery.

Masaii 11-02-2013 12:00 AM

LOL at any of the supposed 'top tier' boarders taking this serious.

A race thread backed by a religion thread in the same day, both get bites.

Cake is a moron.

Frank Metts 11-02-2013 12:02 AM

God exists because as people we need faith in something and because alot of people are to frail to believe in themselves they live vicariously through a deity so we can have someone to blame for the bad and thank for the good, since we are to weak and fragile to blame ourselves for wrong

Life is easier when you believe their is a divine plan for everyone and everything.

Plot 11-02-2013 01:08 AM

I think it was Plato who came up with metaphysics.
A chair in reality is imperfect, it has a flaw somewhere and will eventually break.
The idea of a chair is perfect in that it will never break,
it has one flaw though that it isn't real.
God is perfect, therefore he cannot be real.
Or something like that.

Mael 11-02-2013 06:04 AM

Does omnipotence exist?

Yes, it does; as a word that has a meaning you can easily find in a dictionary. Although it has no physical implication, and is logically incoherent, it holds semantic value. God is merely that which means a being with attributes that include omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence (and possibly omnibenevolence).

Whether he exists of not is irrelevant. The word God and it's meaning will haunt language and semantics till the end of time.

That's why oats was able to say what he said.

Split 11-02-2013 07:42 AM

Im the same, as I was when I was six years old, and oh my God i feel so damn old but I dont reallly feel anything

veritas 11-02-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 196528)
VERITAS I'LL BITE

DISPROVE EVOLUTION



Ok easy..

Where did you come from?

Tom Sparks 11-02-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Metts (Post 196831)
God exists because as people we need faith in something and because alot of people are to frail to believe in themselves they live vicariously through a deity so we can have someone to blame for the bad and thank for the good, since we are to weak and fragile to blame ourselves for wrong

Life is easier when you believe their is a divine plan for everyone and everything.

This

ribbit 11-02-2013 11:48 AM

Not the first time frank has had trouble explaining himself

Frank Metts 11-02-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ribbit (Post 197038)
Not the first time frank has had trouble explaining himself

The fuck is that suppose to mean ?

ribbit 11-02-2013 12:29 PM

It means ur on a path u just haven't struck gold yet

Zen 11-02-2013 12:40 PM

I hate it when serious topics are made just to troll. Why not just have a serious discussion? Like evolution and religion for example. If you believe in God, then isn't it possible God created evolution, quantum mechanics, etc? Science doesn't disprove religion I think. I suppose I'm just way too open minded.

Witty 11-02-2013 12:54 PM

Edit: Clicked on the wrong thread lol

I can't believe religion trolls still work btw.

veritas 11-02-2013 01:24 PM

I will seriously debate anyone on evolution. Real talk.

Frank Metts 11-02-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ribbit (Post 197056)
It means ur on a path u just haven't struck gold yet

The path I walk is paved in gold my friend

uh-oh 11-02-2013 01:34 PM

i came from my fathers dick. grew in my mothers womb. was birthed in a hospital in phoenix

Masaii 11-02-2013 01:38 PM

@veritas

Do you mean how are you born in the physical sense or spiritual?

Im interested in this...

Witty 11-02-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plot (Post 196861)
I think it was Plato who came up with metaphysics.
A chair in reality is imperfect, it has a flaw somewhere and will eventually break.
The idea of a chair is perfect in that it will never break,
it has one flaw though that it isn't real.
God is perfect, therefore he cannot be real.
Or something like that.

Unless we only think he is perfect, like we would the chair.

namix 11-02-2013 01:53 PM

i think it's funny this is considered a troll

all i did was leave it with more introspect in retrospect



ANTI-TROLLED.

ribbit 11-02-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Metts (Post 197121)
The path I walk is paved in gold my friend

Like human intervention every time u look at my watch it glares u roll in chryslers frank I'd fuck u up if u crossed my path seriously u may pave ya path in gold but afterwards there wouldn't be a trace intact left

Malachi 11-02-2013 01:58 PM

Doesn't anybody think how we can go from a liquid from our dad then grow into these intelligent animals

Is
Amazing

Witty 11-02-2013 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malachi (Post 197147)
Doesn't anybody think how we can go from a liquid from our dad then grow into these intelligent animals

Is
Amazing

Yeah, I don't know for sure if God exists or not, nobody does, but I do know that human existence will be equally amazing with or without a God to explain it.

I think people don't focus enough on how incredible it is that we are even here in the first place, regardless of how or why.

veritas 11-02-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Masa II (Post 197131)
@veritas

Do you mean how are you born in the physical sense or spiritual?

Im interested in this...

Strictly physical for now.


How did you get here?

Malachi 11-02-2013 02:17 PM

Are there people who believe in the Big Bang theory ?
Lol

DLB 11-02-2013 02:23 PM

<------- doesnt believe in "God"

veritas 11-02-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 197122)
i came from my fathers dick. grew in my mothers womb. was birthed in a hospital in phoenix

Where did your dad come from?


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