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Depends on context. If she's on the train reading a book she almost certainly isn't interested in being approached by a stranger. If you're at a party, of course you can go say hi and see if she seems into you.

Ive seen plenty of people strike up convos literally over a book being read. respectable ones


Also I had a argument with a real popular feminists who was on the colbert report recently who blamed school shootings on maculinity and says all PIV intercourse could be considered rape

ima go play gta but im just saying i think feminism as a whole looks at the world wrong and if we want real equality we need to stop thinking certain things happening to one gender is more important then to another

ok

lemme be more precise since you take it to the most hyperbolic situation

You are in a non social setting - you are on the train, you sit next to a girl, she has on headphones or she's reading a book THIS IS AN OBVIOUS RED LIGHT.

vs

A setting that promotes socializing, say a bar, you sit down at the bar next to a chick who's fine as fuck. She smiles at you, and faces toward you. THIS IS AN OBVIOUS GREEN LIGHT.

vs


you're in the club, she's dancing with her female friend, and you kinda dance your way over to her. you enter her personal space and she doesn't even look at you. THIS IS NOT OBVIOUS, BUT IT'S A RED LIGHT
^she noticed you in her personal space, she noticed you probably as you started approaching her. she has no interest in you and she doesn't want to shoot you down because women generally feel bad about it, so she's ignoring you. if you repeatedly tap her, or shout to her HEY WANNA DANCE, or, just dance up on her w/o speaking. yes, this creates a vibe that says "I want you and don't care what you want".

OR maybe she didn't notice you at all, and maybe she WOULD like you, but would you be ok with possibly ruining a nice girl's night over a 50/50 chance? if you would be ok with that maybe reevaluate how you treat ppl.


also understand, talking to the girl in scenario one creates the same vibe. you're telling her I want to [talk to] you and I don't care if you don't want to [talk to] me.

you're ignoring the non verbal "no". replace [talk to] with [fuck] and it's the same exact mindset. that mindset scares women.

like I don't get how a resounding amount of women are saying "this bothers us please stop" and you saying "I don't think it should bother you so I won't stop" and not give yourself a creep vibe?

Hmmm yeah actually if you start a conversation about the book OK. I was thinking more like if she was reading and you just sat down next to her to say "hi how are you I'm GOW", which is different, because in the latter situation you're basically saying "stop what you're doing, I want to flirt with you", whereas in the former you're not.

Stop replying to me for a sec so can read your link lol.

this is perfect proof that you don't get it because feminism doesn't say that at -all- but ok

also the chick that claimed all PIV is rape, if it is who I think it is, is a self proclaimed "radfem" aka RADICAL feminist.

and she even states in her blog that she is disappointed that very few other "radical feminists DONT AGREE"

http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/...lways-rape-ok/

so uh yeah, you as stated in the very beginning are presenting "radicals" and saying it's the norm.


also, as for the school shootings, I believe the term feminists use is "toxic masculinity" which is the belief that society puts pressure on men to never be able to cry or express their feelings because it isn't masculine and it leads to things like suicidal tendencies and violent behavior <<< this is not BLAMING MEN FOR EVERYTHING BAD. it's also A SOCIAL ISSUE PERTAINING TO MALES that feminists are fighting for BUT YOU'RE RIGHT GOW THEY WANT EVERYTHING FOR THEMSELVES AND DONT WANNA HELP BOTH GENDERS

But where is the example of feminists saying a guy politely introducing himself ("saying hi") is not ok? This guy is talking about directly propositioning for sex.

@Sharp I see you lurking. Tag in plz.

GOW I have a fun idea for an expiriment that might settle this.

Give me a list of 5 or so things that you think most feminists believe. I will then post it on a feminism forum (surely one exists) and ask if they agree that these ideas represent them.

are you fucking kidding me dude, i have been ind epth in it for the last6 months, every day having to deal with it, yet ur going to tell me feminism doesnt say that. fuck out of here. i have posted proof it says that plus there is a lot of proof out there saying it says it. from high profile feminist leaders of today.

Again I have been knee deep in this for 6 months dealing iwth it every day. this isnt shit just read in an article or posted on a feminist blog, this is shit said by high profile feminists with huge followers who appar on national tv to promote this type of shit. people like anita sarkeesian and etc

so.. six months? I'm guessing you're a gamer gater? so you been arguing on twitter and now you're an expert on feminism? k

it's obvious you don't know who the high profile feminist leaders are when you quoted a self proclaimed RADICAL who admits VERY FEW OTHER RADICALS share her belief that PIV is always rape, and presented that as a standard feminist belief. so yeah, I'd say you don't get it.

can you read this post and address this portion of it?

So I actually am not a part of gamergate, but I am in the tech industry where it is running rampant right now

and you think Anita having hundreds of thousands of followers, national news boradcastings, major media attention, internation speak tours.

is not a representation of new feminism? how about the fucking tons and tons of big name feminists over the last 10 years who all side with her and quote her shit daily?

let me guess because it isnt what u remember feminism to be then it obviously cant be that now?

Nah let's do this, it'll be fun. What specifically do you believe most feminists believe?

- you shouldn't ever politely introduce yourself to a girl unless she talks to you first or eyes you.

Is that one?

You think I care at all about what a couple hundred girls on a forum say compared to the few hundred thousand in the industry I am in says?

Obviously,

- wearing a shirt with naked women on it is sexist

Yes?

nope it isn;t

anita is an awful example of feminism tho, and she's a pretty solid example of what feminism shouldn't be

and yes, it is a shame she has as many followers as she has, and the support she has.

when I think of feminism, I think of people who do things that serve everyone

anita is a self serving bitch who ran away with thousands of dollars on a project that she never went through with.

it is a mind set, and a belief system. just because she has the loudest voice doesn't mean she represents it.