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Destroyer 11-03-2013 11:52 AM

VERITAS, why is it so hard for you to grasp the idea that perhaps the idea of evolution is man's meager understanding of some bigger plan that god put into effect when he snapped his fingers and everything came to be?
why couldn't this all-knowing creator, simply cause the initial spark that everything else grew from? that the Big Bang theory, and study of the universe and evolution and biology are man's attempts to understand the plan enacted by the creator at the beginning of everything? Why can you believe that we all sit around and breathe oxygen and that's plausible, but the idea of a living thing adapting to the environment around it over time and actually changing as a result is so far-fetched? Why is making that happen outside the scope of your idea of an all powerful god?

Frank Metts 11-03-2013 12:20 PM

Who's to say god didn't make the single cell organism that could have evolved into anything ?

If you don't believe in evolution look at this stuff ... Wisdom teeth, appendix, tailbone and theirs a muscle by your ear that was once used to move it like an animal to hear better but now it's not functional... Some much other stuff as well these are just easy to point out.

Wisdom teeth are third molars and were once used when mouths were bigger and their function was breaking down plants, you have fangs as well that were used to rip meat before knives ... How many use their vampire teeth now? Most people have wisdom teeth removed now because their mouth are too small to house them... It wasn't always that way.

Appendix.. It part of your digestive system but what's it for? No one really knows but it can burst and cause you to become deathly... Their was a study claiming they were bigger on early man but I think that was debunked.. It looks like an overflow valve or a storage compartment IMO

Tail bone... We actually still have a tail in utero but it dies off usually by the time the women realizes she's pregnant ... Why would humans of had a tail? Balance, before homo erectus it gets a little blurry but I can bet at one point their were knuckle draggers with tail roaming earth

veritas 11-03-2013 12:25 PM

Because I or anyone else has ever witnessed it. I will put my faith in God making me in his image rather than my faith that I came from a monkey.

Evolution is also impossible based upon sciences accepted limits of possibility.

The question is why would you put your faith in evolution and not God?

DLB 11-03-2013 12:25 PM

ive always wondered of heaven and hell.. can someone explain why ppl think they can declare someone's entrance to hell or say they're going to heaven but every human does good and bad shit with good and bad intentions?

like ppl who rape, most were raped themselves. most ppl will say they're going to hell but what if then those ppl lie about shit, steal, kill, etc. what's a difference to send a rapist to hell but a thief/criminal will go to heaven?

Vulgar 11-03-2013 12:29 PM

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Destroyer 11-03-2013 12:30 PM

nah, your mind is weak

veritas 11-03-2013 12:33 PM

You got to trace evolution back to its beginnigs...the first cell. It is impossible for that to have happened. That is why NO ONE has EVER seen ANY proof of evolution

It is a theory and yall dick ride it like a hush verse smh.

Destroyer 11-03-2013 12:34 PM

ur a moron. god is a theory that you dickride
where's your evidence of god? oh that's right it's a fairy tale

veritas 11-03-2013 12:39 PM

So is evolution.


Why do you choose evolution over a god to put your blind faith in jude?

Destroyer 11-03-2013 12:42 PM

I don't have "faith" bro
I believe that we don't know shit
and I'm fine with that
my joy of life comes from living it, not from understanding it

veritas 11-03-2013 12:44 PM

Wow.

Think that through and try again jude.

Destroyer 11-03-2013 12:45 PM

you think it through bro
we live, then we die. that's it
there's no test. there's only breath
breathe in deeply and enjoy it while it lasts

veritas 11-03-2013 12:48 PM

Yet you believe in evolution instead of god?

Then say we dont know shit?

Destroyer 11-03-2013 12:52 PM

I don't believe in anything
I'm merely stating that evolution, if true, wouldn't disprove a god
I don't subscribe to the belief in either, nor do I actively disbelieve in either

veritas 11-03-2013 12:55 PM

How did we get here?

Destroyer 11-03-2013 12:56 PM

who cares bro? we're here.
a better question is 'what do we do while we are here?'

Split 11-03-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 197999)
Adaptation vs evolution is easy.

Nothing changes its genetic code into the code of another entire animal.

That is exactly why no one has ever seen that happen

No animal has ever become another entire animal

Evolution has never claimed that, and if that's what you believe is being said then you are overgeneralizing the theory

Fossil records, our understanding of genes, and experiments relating the two have shown that over the spans of many generations, life adapts to evolutionary pressures on a population sized scale through natural selection

This is evident within our own species as well.

Human beings as they are today could not exist 300 million years ago. Yet we have evidence of other creatures living on Earth 300 million years ago and evidence of the Earth's existence 4 billion years ago

Where did those creatures go? Why don't we have fossils of today's creatures from back then? How do you explain the anatomical progression of man in the past 10,000 years? Or 3,000 years? When did humans begin existing on this Earth?


Evolution answers each of these questions in a logical way using models, theories, and conventions that all adequately explain biological processes observed in the lab and in the field

veritas 11-03-2013 01:06 PM

No further questions your honor.

Witty 11-03-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young Ether (Post 198031)
ive always wondered of heaven and hell.. can someone explain why ppl think they can declare someone's entrance to hell or say they're going to heaven but every human does good and bad shit with good and bad intentions?

like ppl who rape, most were raped themselves. most ppl will say they're going to hell but what if then those ppl lie about shit, steal, kill, etc. what's a difference to send a rapist to hell but a thief/criminal will go to heaven?

There isn't a difference.

Each sin is equal, in the eyes of God...repentance is needed for even the smallest sin as much as the biggest, it is society who determines differences in morality, God does not distinguish a difference.

Again. Not my views necessarily but those of the Bible.

uh-oh 11-03-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 197999)
Adaptation vs evolution is easy.

Nothing changes its genetic code into the code of another entire animal.


Uhoh....you have never seen god nor anything evolve....why out faith in evo and not god


Also dead at things no longer need to evolve! Rofklflskdkdkdken. What decides that? Please elaborate mwjaahahahahaabababahamwhaah

i put faith into nothing. evolution makes sense to me. god doesnt. i dont put faith into either. i put more weight into evolution, but not at the detriment to "god".

nothings genetic code completely changes into another animal in one generation. its letter by letter. generation by generation.

what decides when something doesnt need to evolve is its enviornment. a shark in the ocean has used the same tools for forever, they are still efficient, nothing has changed in there world for them to have to evolve over HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of years. they are perfectly evolved. nothing a great white shark can do, hasnt been done by other great whites lol

veritas 11-03-2013 02:00 PM

So how did we get here uh oh?

Witty 11-03-2013 02:00 PM

I could ask you the same question @Veritas

How did we get here?

uh-oh 11-03-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mind Assassin (Post 198092)
So how did we get here uh oh?

we are the fire of the all

veritas 11-03-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh (Post 198099)
we are the fire of the all

No further questions your honor


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