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As far as Cersei, she did play that card, her plan was to force Dany to do what she did. Once she did, its like oh shit she wasnt playing im fucked. It was foreshadowed, once again, in the scene with Jon, where she says that Cersei sees her mercy as a weakness. She probably feels that way about the entire country at this point. Cersei overestimated her fighting force as well, the dragon destroyed her defenses in like 2 minutes (which btw their plan for this on both sides was far better than the Battle of Winterfell) They could have done many things that are stunning visually. I think we are just disagreeing on the character development, i think it was a fine transition. I can see where people may think it wasnt, but i was ready and accepting for any option. I think a lot of people wanted it to go down a certain way, and now that it isnt they wanna blame the writers. |
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it was a 180 degree turn.
dany is the defender of the innocent/breaker of chains/liberator/person of the people. she became that because of how she conquered. the westerosi are her people. she was never given the opportunity yet until this battle to show that. instead she thought it was a better idea to burn everything to the ground it was retarded, none of it was foreshadowed, it was forced by all the things you mentioned and rushed. but its the shows own greatness at fault, when you had entire seasons to build up to a big event, full 8-9 hour long episodes of character development before some big event etc. season 7 was a big turning point in rushinng everything and throwing logic to the wind. season 8 is hold my beer.
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nah even before she came to westeros she showed that she could be brutal.
she crucified like half a city. burned a ton of people alive. fed a couple random dudes to the dragons just to send a message. her advisers have kept her on an even keel, then she got to a point where she stopped listening. they've been building this up since season 1, it's just that this season is rushed af so everything seems abrupt now. |
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"I don't want to be queen of ashes"
And the Westerosi are her people. She's been saying that. She was born in kings landing and has said the crown was hers I was fne with her burning the city - I come in with no expectations - but that was a weakly written downfall, which has been the story of this season. It seems like character decisions and twists are made for the sake of manufacturing drama and progressing the plot Like, last week 1 scorpion >1 dragon. This week, 1 dragon > a literal army of scorpions |
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The city was hers. The people were hers. She could have had everyone in the red keep. I could believe indiscriminate slaughter was in her downfall, but it was setup in a way that didn't suit the character (even where she's at now) And I hated how they felt the need to say "when they ring the bells, stop fighting" directly to her then immediate effect before the battle. Basically "HEY GUYS DON'T FORGET THE BELL" |
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Yea the writing was trash for sure. I think it was an impossible task to try and finish this story in 6 episodes. They were doomed as soon as they decided to cut the seasons down. I read somewhere that is was a budget thing, that they only had 75 mil and they couldn't get 10 episodes done for that. At least not with the quality that they wanted for cgi, effects, etc. |
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probably just the actors being mad greedy now lol cus they could have done 4 more eps between the big ones with little to no cgi to keep the pace a bit slower and give more build up. they must not be able to afford writers either though cus it's garbage. tyrion has 0 wit now. |
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but yea they were cleared for 10 episodes by hbo but they preferred to wow us with visual effects and shit instead of story and cut it i think dan and db just wanted out altogether.
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Well. I guess when given a template they decided to just submit the template as their homework.
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Grey Worm: “You do not speak here!”
Tyrion: gives an epic speech and picks Bran as the new king Grey Worm: Cool well I guess we’ll just go to the beach. See you guys later
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RIP the night king. The one true king of westeros.
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Bran: I can never be Lord of Winterfell, I can never be Lord of anything, I'm the three-eyed raven.
Also Bran: I'm the King
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All bran wanted to be was a knight. But he had to be a little perv and next thing you know he is the king of 6 kingdoms because the 7th was like nah im good and the others were like uhh i guess we'll stay together FOR WHAT THO
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BTW let's not forget that in GRRM canon Grey Worm just got everyone massacred by the butterflies of Naath
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We're going to Tahiti, Jon! Just have some goddamn faith!!
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Would’ve rather seen Danny and John rule with flames
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I was ok with most of ep 1-4.5ish, but sheesh
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