bernie sanders campaign gets 1 million volunteers to sign on in 1 week

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using the most notable example for you is shitty debate tactic? i dunno, if you're caught up in ego maybe. im just trying to help you understand the reality of it and how far its gone already.

you said it only happens when protesters incite aggression, and 1 person getting hurt shouldnt mean less funding. i gave you a very over the top example with lots of injuries so you understand better about why we think demilitarization should happen.

but its only extreme in the sense of calling in private mercenary to help.

keep in mind what i told you about new anti protesting bills and you can make a good guess these military tactics will be used again domestically if anyone stands up to corporation > people mentality as persistently as the natives did.

hopefully you get it

[boof]

which one? i'll grab it for ya.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by boof

using the most notable example for you is shitty debate tactic? i dunno, if you're caught up in ego maybe. im just trying to help you understand the reality of it and how far its gone already.

you said it only happens when protesters incite aggression, and 1 person getting hurt shouldnt mean less funding. i gave you a very over the top example with lots of injuries so you understand better about why we think demilitarization should happen.

but its only extreme in the sense of calling in private mercenary to help.

keep in mind what i told you about new anti protesting bills and you can make a good guess these military tactics will be used again domestically if anyone stands up to corporation > people mentality as persistently as the natives did.

hopefully you get it

It's called appeal to extremes

Another bad logic choice you make is oversimplifying causes, which is why I'm having this back and forth with you. It's not about the X therefore Y, it's about finding an equation that gets anywhere. Yelling at the wall about protesters getting hurt by the police, and bernie not wanting them having tanks, does in no way support a negation to my opinion that a team of he and AOC could result in a police state (which I said was unlikely, along with the argument that the far right will lead to a fascist state)

I still don't see why you think you have a high ground to talk to me with such bravado. I think you spend too much time speaking in echochambers at your protest meetings.

To your next post, the el something one, not going back to find it but el c... something. I've since been trying to find evidence to support your claim for you since you can't, and there isn't much useful. Since you aren't interested in backing your claims, I'll admit defeat to myself on behalf of you that local police don't need tanks.

Otherwise you've made 0 logical sense, and in no way have been throwing great knowledge to myself or any other people reading. There isn't a version of a modern democracy where corporations aren't in bed to a great extent with government, and there will never be a world where they won't find a way to get what they want. Your protest have not done a thing to combat that (don't go on some stupid rant about social issues and get off topic)

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well i thought it was pretty obvious that trump has had moments and streaks of leading us towards fascism and that you meant bernie & aoc would likely have a good shot as well. you didn't specify that you thought it was unlikely lol you made the statement directly after saying they sound like an awful pair, thats the only reason i decided to explain to you why it wasn't likely

fuckin asshole

what about el cajon? the bean bags, the military stands? the attack during the vigil?

as far as the end, im not interested in your generalized negativity towards progress in america. im sure you're just as clueless about the positive momentum any economic or social campaign has on the ground, plus that entire sentiment is worthless anyways

[~RustyGunZ~]

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/26/66113...t-water-crisis

Even useful protest only temporarily change anything. But that's getting off topic tbh. My original statement was that those two as a pair is as bad as trump for different reasons, I didn't say neither were likely in there but did pretty sure into the conversation and have brought it up more than once.

And the attack on the vigil, I did a quick search but just found an article about police watching the vigil. You can show me that if you want but I'm otherwise not interested. I'm not blind to anything you seem to think I am, I just am not blind to the fact you can't change that dilemma. are bean bags and cages military equipment? if not how does bernie not wanting local police forces to have teargas and tanks in regards to left leaning social protest any sort of indicator he wouldn't use the actual military to enforce a police state? Let's move on to that if you want to redeem your ability to debate a stance. We can leave the protest thing at neither of us think people shouldn't be able to protest, and neither of us think it's good for people to get hurt doing so and we just think the skirting the line is worse on one side of the other of the line. Fair?

Now tell me how an AOC related duo pushing a socialist agenda wouldn't result in such a thing in as likely a case as Trump making the US a fascist regime.

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Fair lol not even close. My entire effort has gone into helping you understand that the aggression is much more significant on the side of the police. If we can't agree that police departments in 5 different states collaborating with private mercenaries to keep peaceful protesters under surveillance for an extended period of time, injuring 300 of them, and forcing charges onto hundreds with such little evidence that 95% of the cases were thrown out isn't WORSE than blocking a walkway or throwing a bottle I can't go on.

[Immolate]

im really poppin u white suburban kids need to stop CAPin

[Immolate]

x

[Immolate]

all imma say is that i always knew overflow was the manlier of ya 3 boy crew.

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Were all just gonna pretend that bernie vid i posted wasnt excellence tho i get it.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by boof

Fair lol not even close. My entire effort has gone into helping you understand that the aggression is much more significant on the side of the police. If we can't agree that police departments in 5 different states collaborating with private mercenaries to keep peaceful protesters under surveillance for an extended period of time, injuring 300 of them, and forcing charges onto hundreds with such little evidence that 95% of the cases were thrown out isn't WORSE than blocking a walkway or throwing a bottle I can't go on.

Again, appeals to extremes.

I’m saying something that represents the majority of cases. We have a handful a season here, none are useful. There’s of course going to be big ones that could possibly at least do some slight good, and those televised ones are handled poorly. But that’s just reality. Move on to the new question.

[Destroyer]

Knuck every time I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, you say some uber dumb shit.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Knuck every time I try to give you the benefit of the doubt, you say some uber dumb shit.

Like what?

Nothing I’ve said isn’t logical. You might not agree with it, but calling anything I’ve said inherently dumb makes you a doofus.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

Were all just gonna pretend that bernie vid i posted wasnt excellence tho i get it.

Didn’t have a chance to watch it sorry

[~RustyGunZ~]

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