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[veritas]

It is just logical.

If he wasnt who he said he was, where is his body? Wouldn't the jews and romans want more than anyting to produce the body?

also, the apostles deaths.....no one is willing to die, let alone horribly, for a lie. They were willing to die terrible deaths...because they knew the truth.

logic.

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aint jesus supposed to come back on a horse with a sword covered in blood?

REBEL LEADER NIGGAS

VERCINGETERIX 2.O

[Destroyer]

you know another easy way to explain no body?
he wasn't ever real.

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V the jews might want a body to prove he wasnt the prophecised messiah

but the holy romans of today and the christian romans and byzantines or whatever of the past wouldnt want his body because it would prove he was a mortal and didnt come back from the dead and shit

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but thats another point, the jews dont embrace jesus because he was a false messiah. he failed and got killed by the romans

the roman god of war MARS shits on the abrahamic god. as well as JUPITER the king of the gods.

the roman gods were just more powerful.

and in modern times the gods of science logic and reason are beating out the christian jewish hindu buddhist etc gods

[veritas]

Uh-oh...your mind is like a hamster stuck to the Gravitron being operated by a sadistic inbred carnie who never stops it.

jeez.

look guys....Veritas says things we cant refute...say he is trolling.

JESUS IS GOD MANIFEST IN THE FLESH. HE IS OUR ONLY SHOT AT HEAVEN BECAUSE WE WILL NEVER STOP SINNING AND WE SHOULD HAVE FAITH THAT HIS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT TO COVER US.

@ DESTRO: TACITUS THE ROMAN HISTORIAN HAD THIS TO SAY:

"Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Jud

[Destroyer]

Lol
you would quote Tacitus

Hey, V, where's all the writing about how the sky opened up when Jesus died and the dead rose from their graves and walked among men

isn't it odd that there's literally not one historic reference to this massive zombie apocalypse?

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Lol
you would quote Tacitus

Hey, V, where's all the writing about how the sky opened up when Jesus died and the dead rose from their graves and walked among men

isn't it odd that there's literally not one historic reference to this massive zombie apocalypse?

first. not literal zombies.

next: here is a bunch of info that refutes what you just said that you won't read and even if by a miracle you did, you would still not allow it to enlighten you.

Hostile Non-Biblical Pagan Accounts
There are a number of ancient classical accounts of Jesus from pagan, non-Christian sources. These accounts are generally hostile to Christianity; some ancient authors denied the miraculous nature of Jesus and the events surrounding His life:
Thallus (52AD)
Thallus is perhaps the earliest secular writer to mention Jesus and he is so ancient his writings don’t even exist anymore. But Julius Africanus, writing around 221AD does quote Thallus who previously tried to explain away the darkness occurring at Jesus’ crucifixion:
“On the whole world there pressed a most fearful darkness; and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down. This darkness Thallus, in the third book of his History, calls, as appears to me without reason, an eclipse of the sun.” (Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18:1)
If only more of Thallus’ record could be found, we might find more confirmation of Jesus’ crucifixion. But there are some things we can conclude from this account: Jesus lived, He was crucified, and there was an earthquake and darkness at the point of His crucifixion.
Tacitus (56-120AD)
Cornelius Tacitus was known for his analysis and examination of historical documents and is among the most trusted of ancient historians. He was a senator under Emperor Vespasian and was also proconsul of Asia. In his “Annals’ of 116AD, he describes Emperor Nero’s response to the great fire in Rome and Nero’s claim that the Christians were to blame:
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.”
In this account, Tacitus confirms several historical elements of the Biblical narrative: Jesus lived in Judea, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and had followers who were persecuted for their faith in Christ.
Mara Bar-Serapion (70AD)
Sometime after 70AD, a Syrian philosopher named Mara Bar-Serapion, writing to encourage his son, compared the life and persecution of Jesus with that of other philosophers who were persecuted for their ideas. The fact Jesus is known to be a real person with this kind of influence is important. Mara Bar-Serapion refers to Jesus as the “Wise King”:
“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”
From this account, we can add to our understanding of Jesus: He was a wise and influential man who died for His beliefs. The Jewish leadership was somehow responsible for Jesus’ death. Jesus’ followers adopted His beliefs and lived their lives accordingly.
Phlegon (80-140AD)
In a manner similar to Thallus, Julius Africanus also mentions a historian named Phlegon who wrote a chronicle of history around 140AD. In this history, Phlegon also mentions the darkness surrounding the crucifixion in an effort to explain it:
“Phlegon records that, in the time of Tiberius Caesar, at full moon, there was a full eclipse of the sun from the sixth to the ninth hour.” (Africanus, Chronography, 18:1)
Phlegon is also mentioned by Origen (an early church theologian and scholar, born in Alexandria):
“Now Phlegon, in the thirteenth or fourteenth book, I think, of his Chronicles, not only ascribed to Jesus a knowledge of future events . . . but also testified that the result corresponded to His predictions.” (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 14)
“And with regard to the eclipse in the time of Tiberius Caesar, in whose reign Jesus appears to have been crucified, and the great earthquakes which then took place … ” (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 33)
“Jesus, while alive, was of no assistance to himself, but that he arose after death, and exhibited the marks of his punishment, and showed how his hands had been pierced by nails.” (Origen Against Celsus, Book 2, Chapter 59)
From these accounts, we can add something to our understanding: Jesus had the ability to accurately predict the future, was crucified under the reign of Tiberius Caesar and demonstrated His wounds after he was resurrected.
Pliny the Younger (61-113AD)
Early Christians were also described in early, non-Christian history. Pliny the Younger, in a letter to the Roman emperor Trajan, describes the lifestyles of early Christians:
“They (the Christians) were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food—but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
This early description of the first Christians documents several facts: the first Christians believed Jesus was GOD, the first Christians upheld a high moral code, and these early followers met regularly to worship Jesus.
Suetonius (69-140AD)
Suetonius was a Roman historian and annalist of the Imperial House under the Emperor Hadrian. His writings about Christians describe their treatment under the Emperor Claudius (41-54AD):
“Because the Jews at Rome caused constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus (Christ), he (Claudius) expelled them from the city (Rome).” (Life of Claudius, 25:4)
This expulsion took place in 49AD, and in another work, Suetonius wrote about the fire which destroyed Rome in 64 A.D. under the reign of Nero. Nero blamed the Christians for this fire and he punished Christians severely as a result:
“Nero inflicted punishment on the Christians, a sect given to a new and mischievous religious belief.” (Lives of the Caesars, 26.2)
There is much we can learn from Suetonius as it is related to the life of early Christians. From this account, we know Jesus had an immediate impact on His followers: They were committed to their belief Jesus was God and withstood the torment and punishment of the Roman Empire. Jesus had a curious and immediate impact on His followers, empowering them to die courageously for what they knew to be true.
Lucian of Samosata: (115-200 A.D.)
Lucian was a Greek satirist who spoke sarcastically of Christ and Christians, but in the process, he did affirm they were real people and never referred to them as fictional characters:
“The Christians, you know, worship a man to this day—the distinguished personage who introduced their novel rites, and was crucified on that account….You see, these misguided creatures start with the general conviction that they are immortal for all time, which explains the contempt of death and voluntary self-devotion which are so common among them; and then it was impressed on them by their original lawgiver that they are all brothers, from the moment that they are converted, and deny the gods of Greece, and worship the crucified sage, and live after his laws. All this they take quite on faith, with the result that they despise all worldly goods alike, regarding them merely as common property.” (Lucian, The Death of Peregrine. 11-13)
From this account we can add to our description of Jesus: He taught about repentance and about the family of God. These teachings were quickly adopted by Jesus’ followers and exhibited to the world around them.
Celsus (175AD)
This is the last hostile, non-Christian account we will examine (although there are many other later accounts in history). Celsus was quite antagonistic to the claims of the Gospels, but in his criticism he unknowingly affirmed and reinforced the Biblical authors and their content. His writing is extensive and he alludes to 80 different Biblical quotes, confirming their early appearance in history. In addition, he admits the miracles of Jesus were generally believed in the early 2nd century:
“Jesus had come from a village in Judea, and was the son of a poor Jewess who gained her living by the work of her own hands. His mother had been turned out of doors by her husband, who was a carpenter by trade, on being convicted of adultery [with a soldier named Panth

[Inno]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

veritas troll game on point
if jesusndidnt exist, where's his body?
hey, Frankenstein body is missing too
I guess he existed
also can't find Lochness monster body
obv it exists then

Lmao fucking win

[veritas]

also...fyi: @ innovator and Destro

when the WORD says that they would not repent of their sorceries, the greek word is pharmakeia. where we get pharmacy. You should both stop smoking weed.

[veritas]

[Inno]

Originally Posted by Veritas the invincible

also...fyi: @ innovator and Destro

when the WORD says that they would not repent of their sorceries, the greek word is pharmakeia. where we get pharmacy. You should both stop smoking weed.

Brah ama tell you this and i hope it offends you irl. Like srslyoffends you to point you grow hair.


Fuck you and your god. I dont care for your philosophy or ideology. Why would i take spiritual advice(lol) from some one off the internet ive never met?

Why would i do that? Faith?


Also.

I don't appreciate you judging me for smoking weed brah. Not cool

[veritas]

YOU JUDGED ME FIRST. REPENT OF YOUR SORCERIES.


REPENT.


IT IS NOT ME YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT OFFENDING BUT GOD.

FROM A PSYCHOLOGY STANDPOINT YOU ARE MENTALLY WEAK.

THAT IS FROM ME.

GOD WANTS YOU TO REPENT.

[Diode]

Stone Cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Diode

Stone Cold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V

bro, you know I would love to put over STeve....but I can't on that. He sounding ignorant right there. IGnorant of grace. Ignorant of the Word. I appreciate your hate for me guiding you to that.


who hurt you?

[Split Eight]

God can fuck straight off. All he's done is ruined lives because a few people refuse to let him go

If no one ever believed in God, the world would be a better place.

Fair,?-)!?

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can we all agree that dudes sucking dicks and fucking dude butts is gross and move on?

[millz]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

can we all agree that dudes sucking dicks and fucking dude butts is gross and move on?

Since your instrumental release and the passing of gay marriage my desire to buttfuck you has risen 1000%.


I may just have to drive to Canton this weekend and sodomize your chili ring on Merica's Birthday!

What say you?

[Witty]

It is absolutely gross to me, but I fully support their right to be gross.

[Urban Dialect]

lol, gay marriage is a stepping stone for a bigger plan, this is all scripture
what your news doesn't report you might find distrubing
and those that know scripture would see clearly prophecy coming to pass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS3sNSgq3zs