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word i must've never understood the theory then, i thought people were saying BRAN was doing it. like BRAN went back in time and visited the mad king and whispered the madness to him, bran went back and did the brandon the builder shit, etc. etc.
but it makes much more sense that there is an ancient warg who has evaded death through the millennia by just taking over a new person every hundred or so years. so that same ancient "spirit" for lack of a better word couldve done everything, and bran is just his new vessel i like that MUCH more than bran just somehow gaining knowledge from the trees or whatever because it brings a new player into the game entirely
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If I'm not mistaken it sure as shit looked to me like she burned every single one of the grain wagons in that episode. As a matter of fact she specifically targeted them. |
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word it was stupid and didn't make sense
BUT YO i can't find my theory anywhere. everything is linking bran to it. like bran warged into brynden rivers, making him the the 3ER, and the 3ER then trains bran, so bran trains himself. basically everything im finding keeps making BRAN the main warg what i'm saying is the ORIGINAL WARG, unrelated to BOTH OF THEM, the true LAST OF THE GREENSEERS, who was around with the children of the forest and the first men, some unnamed character to this point, is actually the 3ER. HE made brynden rivers come to the cave, he took over him. he made bran come to the cave when bryndens husk was failing and took over BRAN. it could even be an ancient child of the forest, because the whole tree connection the weirwoods were where the SOULS of the children of the forest reside when they died. when the first men came to westeros, they were intent on chopping these trees down, which led them to war, because they were literally killing their ancestors. (in the show the white walkers were created by the children to help fight man, in the books they were already there/there is no talk of their creation/backstory) so it might even be the weirwoods themselves the 3ER could be the hive knowledge of all the children of the forest taking control of humans since they are the most intelligent life available ALSO since the show made the children create the white walkers, they could LITERALLY BE THE CLEANUP CREW every invasion of man that hit westeros, the first men, and later the ANDALS, all brought their own gods, and each chopped down weirwoods now DAENYRYS comes with FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS and dothraki savages. the white walkers could be the trees last hope of wiping out humans who will inevitably wipe them out but that doesn't make sense because actual children of the forest were fighting the white walkers but i guess they could just be uncontrollable and kill anything other than trees lol but YO i still think its an ancient warg, unrelated to bran at all. maybe even a child of the forest, all the knowledge they gain from the trees would make more sense then because the ancestors in the trees seen everything and can pass it along, its not like bran is going back in time himself and witnessing sansas wedding, and every other thing, otherwise he would constantly be in a trance reliving all of those moments. meanwhile if he is actually a child of the forest, just using brans body as a shell, the trees could be feeding him memories or some shit either way i spend too much time thinking about this horse shit. im gonna go jerk off
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They made a point of saying the grain line was very long. I doubt that was all the grain/food.
Even so, its borderline irrelevant. Getting stuck in the details isnt really the point. With an abbreviated season they cant give time to every little nuance of the war. We can just assume that that wasnt all of the grain and that her army is fine vis a vis supplies/food. Thats not the point of the narrative. So Jaime is alive. They wouldnt go through the trouble of showing him being saved from Drogon just to kill him. Prisoner of war now? Saved by Bronn and back to the Red Keep to tell Cersei that its time to fuck off and run cuz dragons? Dunno. I hope the deeper Bran theories are untrue tbh. Just seems kind of lazy. Or hack writing.
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i guess episode 5's outline leaked. if any of you want to help me ruin my week halp me find plz
all i know is what the episode will be titled. DON'T HIGHLIGHT AND READ BELOW THIS IF A SIMPLE TITLE WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ EASTWATCH
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standing by my theory of the white death in the second to last episode
hopefully india will slip up and LEAK IT ASAP i need to see the hound kill 37 wights
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also gendrys hammer is gay
have a normal warhammer ya goof also why am i expected to believe he's a competent fighter with a hammer when he's done nothing in his life also he's too small, shitty casting he shouldve at least been on 29059325 cycles of whatever cyborg takes. i blame the initial robert baratheon casting. dudes supposed to be a 6'6'' giant swinging a warhammer only the mountain could wield other than him now we got his 5'6 son gendry with his painted on sparta 300 forearm muscles like we can't see he weighs 160 pounds with a goofy rounded plastic clown child warhammer FUCK OFF still hype tho
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Cool that they mentioned Rhaeger getting an annulment. That's a pretty big debate online. Wonder if thats the showrunners just liking that idea or George told them that in the notes he gave them when the show started.
I don't remember Beric ever fighting with a fire sword (as seen on the scenes from next week). Thoros did that. The Tyrion subplot was a bit forced, just in terms of ease and expediency. Cool episode overall. Agreed on the hammer. Looked off. Cool that they paid homage to Robert's weapon of choice.
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word, im assuming its from the books though, but who knows.
it just makes the whole rebellion thing weird. but robert was a drunkard, and maybe he was just butthurt and made up the whole kidnapping thing. compounded with the mad king burning ned's brother and father that probably blinded old honorable neds logic so he teamed up so the targaryans wouldn't steal another stark from him either way word im enjoying the westerosi time machine though. im just thinking of how much they couldve done from day 1 if they moved the story this fast before but then i remember how gigantic the source material is and it was probably needed to be so slow action wise, just to set the world into the viewers minds as much as possible, so now they can take advantage and just slam us with everything im just hoping sam can find something in the books they stole other than, oh wait it says dragonglass can kill them! no shit fucko. but word he probably finds some knowledge on how to make valyrian steel. involving regular steel+dragonglass forged in dragonfire. gendry of course will make enough swords for whatever main characters are left by the end. if he doesn't get killed north of the wall. which i can only hope for
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thought it was tight that Davos mentioned to gendry "i thought you'd still be rowing" lol.
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This is basically turning into a JRPG final cast against the Night King
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Oh also calling it now either:
Cersei not actually pregnant and is using it to keep Jaime in line/loyal Or The valonquar that kills her is this bb and it's a boy
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Oh and also how stupid is Arya amirite
IMAGINE IF LITTLEFINGER HAS BEEN A FACELESS DUDE THIS WHOLE TIME AND THIS IS HER PUNISHMENT OMGGGG
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jon going beyond the wall with JORRAH THA BEAST that muh fucker done lived through EVERYTHING. we all knew he was gonna get cured but then WHAM let's go over the wall. LMFAO like, take a break jorrah.
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so im thinking, like no one believing jon about the dead right, and he needs to convince them
its gonna be the same with his parentage so he's gonna have to prove it by riding a dragon. unless the show doesn't plan on having more than one dragonrider in which case his parentage won't even matter, because he's obviously gonna marry dany, and unite the north and south, so he'll basically be king anyways. unless he pulls some cuck shit like whoever married the queen of england like nah im just the queens beard dawg she runs shit
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The annulment and marriage to Lyanna was done in secret. Obviously Lyanna loved Rhaegar and Jon was born not of rape and kidnap but purposefully. But Robert was so in love with Lyanna it didn't matter. Even if the marriage was public he would have convinced himself it wasn't and would have rebelled to get her back. Since it was done in secret it basically looked like, and is still considered, a kidnapping to everyone outside of Rhaegar and Lyanna. But yeah, due to Jon being a legitimate Targaryen and not a bastard he is technically the rightful heir to the throne due to him being the only male alive in the Targaryen line. He jumps past Dany even though she is closer to the Aerys in relation. It's relatively easy to see how Jon and Dany come to find out about their familial bond. Bran somehow tells them. Them finding out about Rhaeger and Lyanna's actual marriage will take some creative convenience vis a vis Sam. But on the streamlined timeline of the show it won't take long. Like, Tyrion meeting Jaime and the entire King's Landing plot of this episode would have taken half a season in previous seasons. Same with the Eastwatch meet up. There are upsides and downsides to how efficient this season has been. We're getting a lot of info and action at the cost of the show's signature slow boil, which is what made it so unique. Give and take I guess. And just an FYI, in case anyone didn't know, the letter Littlefinger let Arya find was the letter Sansa sent to Winterfell in Season 1 when she was telling her family to not rebel and swear fealty to Joffrey so as to save Ned's life. Written under heavy pressure from Cersei when Ned was jailed.
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Also, the whole "lets stop the war to catch a wight" is the dumbest most contrived plot this show has ever had.
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