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Old 10-01-2013, 05:50 PM   #101
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Yes.

Because what you said has no scientific basis, also there being no predetermined destiny means 'running your course' is null and void, cancer is no different than any disease, so by your reasoning we shouldn't even have hospitals at all, people with heart disease, liver disease, kidney disease, etc have all run their course if what you said is true.

Let's close all the hospitals, every sick person should be left to die, that will make things better.
we absolutely should not close all hospitals

if i break a bone i want a doctor to mend it. if i get cancer, thats a whole different beast. do you know what cancer is? its a mutation of cells, there is no cure. they can combat it, and some people recover, but EVERY SINGLE LIVING PERSON will die of cancer, if they dont die of something else first. its science bro. its your body failing. your genetics have run there course.

if you have a disease that is curable, hospitals should definately fix it. but if you got pancreatic cancer what is the point? if you got the money, and you wanna stretch another 8 months into your life, go ahead and drop the crazy money on treatment

but i dont want my government, using my tax money, to keep a person alive who has an uncureable disease. that is pure buffoonery and malarkey dog
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:56 PM   #102
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.. and who do you think has to pay for your broke ass when you go to the ER and don't pay your bill? the magical sky fairy?

no. the rest of us. our rates go up. if it's a publicly funded hospital, our taxes go up. we all pay for you, dumbshit.
i don't go to the ER dawg

i'm bulletproof.

i havent went to the hospital since i was 16. i went because i wanted drugs nigga. i wasnt sick. my mom paid for that shit cuz she had health insurance yafeelme

the time before that i was like 12. i got mauled by a german shepherd. the time before that i was like 6 or 7. i got bit by a brown recluse.

wtf is a vaccination? wtf is a flu shot? i touch everything and bite my fingernails. i'm immune to everything.

i got most of my shots as a little kid.

other than physicals for midget and middle school football, that is my entire medical history. i am 24 years old.
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Old 10-01-2013, 05:58 PM   #103
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i don't go to the ER dawg

i'm bulletproof.

i havent went to the hospital since i was 16. i went because i wanted drugs nigga. i wasnt sick. my mom paid for that shit cuz she had health insurance yafeelme

the time before that i was like 12. i got mauled by a german shepherd. the time before that i was like 6 or 7. i got bit by a brown recluse.

wtf is a vaccination? wtf is a flu shot? i touch everything and bite my fingernails. i'm immune to everything.

i got most of my shots as a little kid.

other than physicals for midget and middle school football, that is my entire medical history. i am 24 years old.
thank you for deflecting, but your point was that you hate socialized medicine and are in favor of just going to the ER and walking out on your bill because that somehow isn't socialism.
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Old 10-01-2013, 06:00 PM   #104
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i also had a boxers break when i was 14 from punching a wall. forgot about that

the point is tho. what is a doctor visit? what do you do?

he checks your pulse? lol nigga go home. you don't need to be at the doctor unless somethings wrong.
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thank you for deflecting, but your point was that you hate socialized medicine and are in favor of just going to the ER and walking out on your bill because that somehow isn't socialism.
explain how that is socialism?

you have health insurance i take it. because you are rich duh of course you do. so if i went in and skipped out on a bill, your rates go up? sucks for you dog

maybe you shouldnt have health insurance? you should just pay your bill when you go like an AMERICAN

i only have car insurance because it is required by law. and i only have it because i drive by so many cops on a daily basis or i'd be an OUTLAW

if this obamacare nonsense goes through, thats another thing i have to pay for that will not need.

if i wreck into someone, why can't they just bill me? why do i have to pay for if i MIGHT wreck into someone? same thing with health insurance

i'd rather get a huge bill, and pay it, and or get my wages garnished after the fact, instead of paying on the offchance something does happen.

its like yo i fuck bitches so im required to pay child support to her on the offchance she spits out a little uh-oh

FUCK OUTTA HERE B
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explain how that is socialism?

you have health insurance i take it. because you are rich duh of course you do. so if i went in and skipped out on a bill, your rates go up? sucks for you dog

maybe you shouldnt have health insurance? you should just pay your bill when you go like an AMERICAN

i only have car insurance because it is required by law. and i only have it because i drive by so many cops on a daily basis or i'd be an OUTLAW

if this obamacare nonsense goes through, thats another thing i have to pay for that will not need.

if i wreck into someone, why can't they just bill me? why do i have to pay for if i MIGHT wreck into someone? same thing with health insurance

i'd rather get a huge bill, and pay it, and or get my wages garnished after the fact, instead of paying on the offchance something does happen.

its like yo i fuck bitches so im required to pay child support to her on the offchance she spits out a little uh-oh

FUCK OUTTA HERE B
because you can't afford to pay it.
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because you can't afford to pay it.
pay what? if i break my toe? fuck my toes yo. i will make a splint with a paint mixing stick and gorilla tape.

i'm an animal. we all are.

you are asking me to take one of the bananas from the BUSHEL i just harvested and place it in a big pile in the middle of our monkey encampment. just cuz you harvested 10 bushels and put a whole bushel in, doesnt mean i have to put my one banana in there

this is america dawg. you can pay into the banana pile. im not going to. if i get to a point where i cant give myself bananas exile me to death. i'll forage and die a magnificent death fighting a leapord
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i also had a boxers break when i was 14 from punching a wall. forgot about that
Did the same exact shit around the same age.. did it again to the same hand at 22.. but in a fight.

I have a golf ball on the top of my hand now, & sometimes it aches like fuck.. but then I punch the floor fairly hard & it goes away. Not hard enough that I break it again.

Oh btw @uh-oh for president of the United States.

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we absolutely should not close all hospitals

if i break a bone i want a doctor to mend it. if i get cancer, thats a whole different beast. do you know what cancer is? its a mutation of cells, there is no cure. they can combat it, and some people recover, but EVERY SINGLE LIVING PERSON will die of cancer, if they dont die of something else first. its science bro. its your body failing. your genetics have run there course.

if you have a disease that is curable, hospitals should definately fix it. but if you got pancreatic cancer what is the point? if you got the money, and you wanna stretch another 8 months into your life, go ahead and drop the crazy money on treatment

but i dont want my government, using my tax money, to keep a person alive who has an uncureable disease. that is pure buffoonery and malarkey dog
They haven't always had cures for those other things either, but they worked on it and found a cure, something that would never have been done but for years and years of medical records for those diseases. We need to treat people, not only to keep them alive, but to study their illnesses and find a cure.
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Also, my step father had cancer and they removed it.

Countless numbers of people have beaten cancer thanks to medical treatment, we can make these peoples lives easier at least, and that is worth any amount of money. I would rather pay for a cancer patient than a patient with a broken arm.

Don't forget, most of these people have probably paid tax their whole life also, and if so they are just as entitled to treatment as anybody.
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Lol uh oh is literally the last living caveman.

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Also, my step father had cancer and they removed it.

Countless numbers of people have beaten cancer thanks to medical treatment, we can make these peoples lives easier at least, and that is worth any amount of money. I would rather pay for a cancer patient than a patient with a broken arm.

Don't forget, most of these people have probably paid tax their whole life also, and if so they are just as entitled to treatment as anybody.
you are ok with paying any amount of money on that.

i don't have a problem with you guys paying for that. i don't want to tho. not even a penny
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you are ok with paying any amount of money on that.

i don't have a problem with you guys paying for that. i don't want to tho. not even a penny
That isn't how a democracy works, it is called social responsibility, it was one of our most important advances in our history, it gave us better life expectancy and helped us thrive, there is evidence of cro magnon man and even Neanderthal caring for the old and wounded, and keeping them alive. It falls on everyone's shoulders and rightly so, if you don't like it I suggest you relocate to a forest or something because that is how and why civilisations work, it is our responsibility to treat any illnesses people have within our own cultures, and I'm not saying that through emotion, it is simply beneficial to humanity to treat the ill and continue to try and find cures.

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UHOH YOU LIKE HISTORY

READ THIS

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SHOULD HAVE READ IT IN HIGH SCHOOL TBH
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READ THIS

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@uh-oh ... funny while I'm reading your heap of shit from the hospital bed I've layed in since Monday because of 3 seperate bacterial infections one or which is rare and could of been fatal I have to question your logic ... this shit can happen to anyone... if you quit smoking cigs you could afford health insurance... but you can buy weed? You can buy booze? Cmon mannnnnn ...
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i don't want fucking health insurance

why is that hard to understand? if i could afford it, i wouldnt want it.

sorry to hear you're in the hospital. glad to hear its not something that isnt curable

if you read my posts you'd see im talking about lost causes. a staph infection/mrsa isnt a lost cause.

i clearly won this thread
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and why would i give up something i enjoy to have something i don't want?

cmon frank. use logic.

even if it didnt cut into things i enjoy, i do not want to spend money on the offchance it happens

its bad enough i gotta pay for car insurance

quit trying to bill me niggas

get out my pockets
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