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Old 01-14-2021, 10:58 PM   #101
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but also because the effi***y at preventing spread wasn’t looked at because stopping death was deemed more pressing
You are an idiot. “Wasn’t looked at” lmaooooo let me show you how you don’t know what you’re talking about

When a vaccine is “95% effective”, they ARE REFERRING TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING SPREAD , NOT PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING DEATH

Look up the Pfizer ceos recent interview, he says it himself

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Old 01-14-2021, 11:02 PM   #103
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they looked at who got sick and who didn’t not whether people were asymptomatic but still shedding virus
do you read anything or just type paragraphs?
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It just so happens that I'm drawing different conclusions than you are. Instead of encouraging my free thinking, you condemn me because I don't conform. This is called hypocrisy.

Until you can acknowledge the basic fact the virus is killing 4000 people a day in the US currently, your opinion on the subject is moot regardless of how free thinking you are. You're not participating in our shared reality, so its not productive to have you participating in conversations.
“YOURE NOT PARTICIPATING IN OUR SHARED REALITY” lmao the irony. The reality you are living in is clearly manipulated

4000 people may have died, but not all of them died specifically from the coronavirus. I already went over that. It is a lie perpetrated to make the public believe it’s worse than it is. And the 4000, is gather 3900+ of them are old or already on their deathbed. That’s fact.
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Old 01-14-2021, 11:04 PM   #105
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When a vaccine is “95% effective”, they ARE REFERRING TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING SPREAD , NOT PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING DEATH
this vaccine doesn’t contain the virus but rather teaches your body how to fight the spread of it INSIDE YOUR OWN BODY
how the fuck could such a virus be measured by percentage of prevention?
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they looked at who got sick and who didn’t not whether people were asymptomatic but still shedding virus
do you read anything or just type paragraphs?
You’re making no sense. You literally just said scientists didn’t consider virus transmission when making the vaccine. It’s past your bed time buddy
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this vaccine doesn’t contain the virus but rather teaches your body how to fight the spread of it INSIDE YOUR OWN BODY
how the fuck could such a virus be measured by percentage of prevention?
“How could a virus be measured by percentage of prevention”

It’s not the virus being measured, we are talking about the vaccines effectiveness at preventing spread being measured dumb dumb
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oh sorry, i misspoke. a scholar such as yourself would surely know i meant vaccine where i typed virus
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oh sorry, i misspoke. a scholar such as yourself would surely know i meant vaccine where i typed virus
I don’t assume dumb people MEANT to say something smart
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Coop what you doing going back & forth though?

one hoe claims to do his due dilligence yet has no knowlegde of how deaths are wrongly being attributed to covid - if you dont accept the fraud as "fact" nothing matters - thats a wall youre talking to.

another mark mixes up terms (harmless mistake in & of itself) but then acts like its your fault for not comprehending the shit.

you dont see its just a game of egos at this point?

do what you will, im just sayin, drop the jewels, & let it be.
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Old 01-15-2021, 02:01 AM   #114
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We've been doing the "wrongly attributed deaths" dance for days. Every time you bring it up I have to remind you that some states report their confirmed numbers as well as the presumed cases and the difference isn't that much.

Even assuming 50% of the cases are falsely attributed (which isn't even close to true), we're still talking about 2000 deaths a day from COVID. That's a lot of people dying (you can look up the old thread for comps of that death rate, it's still enough to be in top 5 causes of death in the US).

Not to mention that I could also bring up the excess deaths statistics (number of bodies showing up in morgues is atypically high compared to a year ago). A lot of these are people who died with COVID at home and were never tested and do not count towards the official numbers.

Any cursory investigation would tell you a lot of people are dying right now. If we can't agree on the basic premise of COVID kills 1000s of people every day, none of the rest of the conversation has a point.
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When a vaccine is “95% effective”, they ARE REFERRING TO THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING SPREAD , NOT PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTING DEATH
maybe preventing the spread will hopefully help in preventing some deaths

or at least help out the healthcare institutions somewhat by bringing down the number of admissions etc so that they aren’t overrun
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Coop what you doing going back & forth though?

one hoe claims to do his due dilligence yet has no knowlegde of how deaths are wrongly being attributed to covid - if you dont accept the fraud as "fact" nothing matters - thats a wall youre talking to.

another mark mixes up terms (harmless mistake in & of itself) but then acts like its your fault for not comprehending the shit.

you dont see its just a game of egos at this point?

do what you will, im just sayin, drop the jewels, & let it be.
You’re 100% right.

When I have the time, I prefer to defend what I post. If I just let it be, posts that make no sense or are irrelevant, will be treated like they are correct and confuse people.
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We've been doing the "wrongly attributed deaths" dance for days. Every time you bring it up I have to remind you that some states report their confirmed numbers as well as the presumed cases and the difference isn't that much.

Even assuming 50% of the cases are falsely attributed (which isn't even close to true), we're still talking about 2000 deaths a day from COVID. That's a lot of people dying (you can look up the old thread for comps of that death rate, it's still enough to be in top 5 causes of death in the US).

Not to mention that I could also bring up the excess deaths statistics (number of bodies showing up in morgues is atypically high compared to a year ago). A lot of these are people who died with COVID at home and were never tested and do not count towards the official numbers.

Any cursory investigation would tell you a lot of people are dying right now. If we can't agree on the basic premise of COVID kills 1000s of people every day, none of the rest of the conversation has a point.
I agree with you conceptually. If we aren’t on the same page with the deaths, then the rest will implode.

Which is why we must reach conclusion on the rest of the shit I’m talking about.

Realistic scenario:

If someone gets a false positive, doesn’t have covid, then dies of something else within 28 days, that death can and most likely will be coded a covid death, without autopsy. They just need 2 symptoms (all similar to flu symptoms) to be observed.

^ASK A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL ABOUT THIS TO CONFIRM FOR YOURSELF

Once you realize that is true, what is your opinion on figuring out exactly how many times that has happened? Because that’s one of the key questions.

Because just like I can’t claim “it’s happening all the time”, you can’t claim “it’s rarely happening”

The DATA being wrong is what keeps this whole thing going. And the answer to that I believe lies in the PCR test.

Thoughts?

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maybe preventing the spread will hopefully help in preventing some deaths

or at least help out the healthcare institutions somewhat by bringing down the number of admissions etc so that they aren’t overrun
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic but of course this is true. My quote was correcting a mistake some guy made.
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If someone gets a false positive, doesn’t have covid, then dies of something else within 28 days, that death can and most likely will be coded a covid death, without autopsy. They just need 2 symptoms (all similar to flu symptoms) to be observed.
Assuming I take the this premise at face value, how do you account for the fact that the number of "wrongly attributed" deaths is increasing at an alarming rate. 4000 people are dying every day of something. That's a freaky number of non-covid deaths with flu like symptoms.
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Fraze swears he knows everything.

This ain’t shock dumbass. Shock doesn’t last every moment of the day like she said this is. The doctors who saw her didn’t say it was shock.

And no shit this is “RIGHT NOW” rare. Maybe that’s why I fuckin said it was? You can’t tell me with certainty this won’t happen to a lot more down the road. The experts who made the vaccine wouldn’t make that claim so how could you?

Also, 4000 aren’t dying a day from covid get your numbers straight
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