5 Things That Killed Hip Hop

[TYSON]

Originally Posted by Rayge

I think the south killed hiphop, yes

Faggot

[Anonymous]

White people would make up at least 90% of the top 20 rappers of all time

[Inno]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

White people would make up at least 90% of the top 20 rappers of all time

Wtf are u talking about?

[Inno]

White people keep running hiphop.

Look at kreashawn.

Look at mgk

Look at yellawolf.

Look at vanilla ice for christ sake.


Before white people hip hop was part of the black culture and vice versa.

Aftet white people.

Its become a business. ..and has nothing to do with black culture.


Call me what u feel.

WHITE PEOPLE RUINED HIPHOP.

[Malachi]

Yelawolfs kinda good I'm basing this off of one verse tho

[dead man]

in a sense, white people are responsible for hip-hop (as we know it), seeing as it began as a way for blacks to voice a message born from their oppression

just saying

[Dope girl]

1. Freddy E Killed himself
2. Biggie Got shot
3. Tupa Died from Bullets
4. Heavy D Died from Overweight
5. Nate Dogg passed away from stroke

R.I.P. To Them.

[Rojo187]

Money killed hip hop...we went from a revolutionary form of expression to talk about society ills to blatant brand marketing and fake trend setting...pagans and heathens that will praise artists more than objectively listen to it for what it's worth...entertainment...and no matter how big a black person is I.e. Oprah jay z....there's a white dude cutting their checks cuz they have a massive and direct influence on their culture....That's why jay z wants you to question religion....all power lies in self...that Machiavellian attitude is very in line with some forms of humanism and satanism...fact...jay z stopped needing god for help years ago..but funny thing is....it's a war against Christianity than organized religion as a whole...why else would Jay z..Jehovah or Jay hova...himself name a Christian relic in his album title...

.believe what Jay-Z tells you but I rather believe in God and find out there isn't one...then not to believe and find out there is one....and say what you want but even with atomic tyler the future sig....there is a growing acceptance of occult symbols that are becoming more prevalent in music..

now jay can be doing this outta entertainment kanye can change his name to yeezus and say I am God....but it's all harmless right?

and kesha can dance in a black mass with pentagram in the background yet be the idol of millions of tying girls...eventually your daughters and not think there isn't some sort of sinister undercurrent that's during thru hiphop and other cultures?

one more thing...I was watching game of thrones and there's a part that says a man does not become such and powerful by being honorable...so money is power...power corrupts....absolute power corrupts absolutely...

[Rojo187]

rich and powerful my b

[Inno]

Originally Posted by dead man

in a sense, white people are responsible for hip-hop (as we know it), seeing as it began as a way for blacks to voice a message born from their oppression

just saying

so you are saying white people invented hiphop because they enslaved black people and gave them a reason to have oppression?

I don't get your statement lol..im not trying to bbeef just trying to understand where you are coming from.

[Witty]

Think he was trying to say white oppression of black people was a catalyst, among other things Hip Hop was an outlet, something that gave them a voice and a way to break out of and condemn opression.

I don't think he means white people invented it, more that their actions helped create the feelings of anger and injustice portrayed in Hip Hop.

[Inno]

that's what I thought he meant....im really not trying to be a racist..but I know I speak some truth when I say white people ruined hiphop..

I mean godam it..when hiphop was hiphop we had emcees talking about real shit...saying something behind the lyrics...

once hiphop was pushed into the mainstream...white America decided it was to real...next thing you know we got what we got now..

stupid talentless people pushing trends ands trying to sell you an image of what hiphop should be like.

bottom line is hiphop is a corporation....

[Rojo187]

Originally Posted by Witty

Think he was trying to say white oppression of black people was a catalyst, among other things Hip Hop was an outlet, something that gave them a voice and a way to break out of and condemn opression.

I don't think he means white people invented it, more that their actions helped create the feelings of anger and injustice portrayed in Hip Hop.

true...but once public enemy made a political impact and created awareness...the move shifted to gangster rap...a more self destructive form for urban youth...

[Inno]

yeah how does that happen


when people like immortal technique and dead prez get shoved to side because its the entertainment they want...

so what gets pushed into the mainstream..

people like

bob.
kid cudi
wiz kalipha

all examples of watered down hiphop.

the hiphop white America wants.

its fact.

[Ghost1]

Originally Posted by 2 Beautiful

1. Freddy E Killed himself
2. Biggie Got shot
3. Tupa Died from Bullets
4. Heavy D Died from Overweight
5. Nate Dogg passed away from stroke

R.I.P. To Them.

gone@robreezy

[Coup]

someone predict the face of hiphop in 10 years...think about it, it's gun be mad gay like it is becoming now.

[Sharp]

Watering down of music is just what happens when something blows up. Thats been the way music is since the classical era. Mozart was the original wiz khalifa in that sense

[Coup]

very good points SN....Mozart was the first industry established "star" the first musical biographies were about him etc....he also wrote nothing. all the work was attributed to him by others. just some thoughts....in his time was the rise of the modern music industry.

[Witty]

There really isn't a distinction between Hip Hop and Pop these days in the eyes of the average person, they're one in the same thing.

I dislike that, but who's to say I'm right and they're wrong? You gotta go with what sells, and that's what they're doing.

Just cuz I don't feel a lot of it doesn't mean they should stop, because obviously I'm in the minority...its all opinion, in 10 years from now there will be people who are kids today looking back at what they consider to me the best time of Hip Hop, disliking the new shit that's getting hot because its not what they perceive hip hop to be. And so on and so forth for eternity.

[Coup]

Wity you said,

I dislike that, but who's to say I'm right and they're wrong? You gotta go with what sells, and that's what they're doing.

Brings up a good point...who decides what sells and who determines music trends ? Well the industry does, not the artist, but the men who control it. that is why we really do not see any creativity outside the ridged themes/ideals that are sung about...so agenda is a big part of the picture...music does not evolve naturally....we are given music that in someway leans toward a mindset or direction they are taking society..

that is why all these homo rappers are singing about being homo for example, that is the agenda of the "elite"

not to sound all conspiracy like, but this is how i see it....I could be wrong and am fine with that.