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Old 05-05-2016, 02:18 PM   #101
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"ignorance"?

Ummmm ok, I will play along.


Pls list the names of each of those groups that will come in and defend white people.

I made a statement, not an opinion. I never said whether that it was wrong or right, simply that it happens like that.

BUT YEAH... what type of issues do you see happen where Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton comes in? and how much media coverage does it generate?
there's no fucking need for groups like that to defend white people, there's not an opportunity that exists that we don't have a fair shot at. wtf is wrong with you?
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as far as countries like cuba or venezuela, socialism is a terrible thing when the government gets over involved and uses it to corrupt their country, keeping the money meant to be spent on socialist programs, etc. like how the capitalism in this country creates billions of dollars that all go to special interests that in turn go to the governement to keep special interests happy, leaving no benefit for the lower and middle class. democratic socialism is socialism to benefit the people, not the governement. america has a nice ribbon labeled 'free market' & 'the american dream' tied around the way they justify this corruption, and most people are blinded by that.
This is not a free market

And how are we going to stop our government from abusing that new tax revenue like those countries?
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How is it the greater good? Teaching everyone you don't have to work hard to succeed lmao?

So what incentive is there to support yourself? Do you really think enough people won't be able to get around any new tax law that suddenly everyone can have health insurance? Are you that naive?



I don't even spend that much on food and entertainment a week.

If they gave out less assistance and people were JUST living if they didn't want to work themselves into a better life we could feed and shelter the homeless and support even more people.

And fuck that even. Fuck Internet statistics and graphs and bullshit reporting by bias channels. How are you going to say Batty using his own experiences to base his opinions is idiotic? You seriously trust the fucking Internet over REAL experiences? You're that blinded by your ego and hopes of what society should be that you take information you have 0 evidence can be backed up over what you see in the real world? You're going to take the word of "research" that under 1% of government assistance is used fraudulently as fact that YES must be true they said so instead of thinking maybeeee they just fucking suck at catching it? You're going to witness well over 25% of people on food stamps actually need them but take those stats from one areas hand full of people as truth?

Fuck you man

you're an idiot for assuming these people aren't working hard as if they want to be on food stamps forever. its embarrassing. but furthermore please read below before ever putting down our welfare program again.

if you make 50k a year

$36 of that contributes to the food stamp program.

$870 goes to corporate subsidies.
$1600 goes to offset corporate tax loopholes
$1231 goes to offset losses from corporate tax havens

please tell me you're not still mad about the money that goes to food stamps

if you are,

you're an idiot.
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you're an idiot for assuming these people aren't working hard as if they want to be on food stamps forever. its embarrassing. but furthermore please read below before ever putting down our welfare program again.

if you make 50k a year

$36 of that goes to food stamps.

$870 goes to corporate subsidies.
$1600 goes to offset corporate tax loopholes
$1231 goes to offset losses from corporate tax havens

please tell me you're not still mad about the money that goes to food stamps

if you are,

you're an idiot.
So liberal so current. Typical response. Take one thing from what I said and pinpoint it as the only topic I brought up or that my one example is all I'm focused on. I'm not going to repeat myself for every other aspect of government assistance. Across the board they get too much.

I KNOW those people and none of them need as much money as they get for food stamps or housing

Where'd you get those Kool stats? They're very false.
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and to say you don't spend 124 dollars a week on food like that's so awful is fucking RETARDED. do you have a family? does 124 dollars a week really sound like that much money for a single mom and her 1 kid? or 2 kids? what the fuck? i spend 80/week on groceries just for myself and i'm fucking starving. you don't spend 5% of your income on entertainment? you think that's not justified? what the fuck?
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i got those stats from the tax foundation website. which is the most legitimate tax site i know of. and its ran by republicans.

how many of those people do you know? lmao 10? 20? where do you live? you think because you know a few people that get more they need that everyone gets more than they need? i know people that don't qualify because they make too much that need that shit. so how are you going to tell me people UNDER the threshold get TOO much?

and why the fuck aren't you mad about giving walmart and mcdonalds a thousand dollars a year? they're billion dollar corporations, doesn't that seem like TOO MUCH for someone that DOESNT NEED IT?
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there's no fucking need for groups like that to defend white people, there's not an opportunity that exists that we don't have a fair shot at. wtf is wrong with you?
Now THAT is ignorance.

You don't think black people run businesses or something??? You don't think there are black owned businesses? You don't think black people can just decide to promote other black people over white people when they are the boss?

The definitions of words like DIVERSITY and MINORITY are completely misunderstood in today's society.

Diversity does not mean HIRE MORE BLACK PEOPLE. It means to have fairness in representing different groups of people. Minority means you are in lesser numbers than another group.

Do you think that there are not ANY cities in the U.S. were the white population is in the minority?


This isn't the 1800's nor is it the 1960's, so why do people still use dated logic in discussions right here in 2016?


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helping the members of your country in less fortunate situations is not cutting off your nose. there are more wealthy people that understand the awful repercussions of our free market than you realize.

i know corporations are people in the eyes of the legal system, friend. that doesn't mean it's accurate. as a matter of fact, it's fucking ridiculous, and that is only the law because of the ongoing corruption of legislation. i would think you know that. to answer your question, no. if a corporation makes 100 billion a year, and now actually pays its 35 billion in taxes instead of hoarding it, the country gets 35 billion. if the company in turn legally increases its profits by 35 billion, we now get 35% of 135 billion which is 47 billion, and so forth. i doubt that corporations price inflation will cost america $47 billion, (again this depends on the corporation), and i doubt it will cost $47 billion worth of employment salaries if they need to cut some jobs. again, i'm not sure why people defend the corporation. if it can't make these profits in a legitimate way, it does not deserve to be a multibillion dollar company in america.

as far as countries like cuba or venezuela, socialism is a terrible thing when the government gets over involved and uses it to corrupt their country, keeping the money meant to be spent on socialist programs, etc. like how the capitalism in this country creates billions of dollars that all go to special interests that in turn go to the governement to keep special interests happy, leaving no benefit for the lower and middle class. democratic socialism is socialism to benefit the people, not the governement. america has a nice ribbon labeled 'free market' & 'the american dream' tied around the way they justify this corruption, and most people are blinded by that.
blinded in the same way that has you blinded to the fact that our government if turned socialist would become no different than cuba or venezuela lol?

fair?
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and as always,

I said it before, I will say it again...

in today's world the agenda trumps truth.
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in which i am disappointed to find out that batty is an unapologetic white rights clown

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blinded in the same way that has you blinded to the fact that our government if turned socialist would become no different than cuba or venezuela lol?

fair?
communism is not socialism lol? fair?
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Now THAT is ignorance.

You don't think black people run businesses or something??? You don't think there are black owned businesses? You don't think black people can just decide to promote other black people over white people when they are the boss?

The definitions of words like DIVERSITY and MINORITY are completely misunderstood in today's society.

Diversity does not mean HIRE MORE BLACK PEOPLE. It means to have fairness in representing different groups of people. Minority means you are in lesser numbers than another group.

Do you think that there are not ANY cities in the U.S. were the white population is in the minority?


This isn't the 1800's nor is it the 1960's, so why do people still use dated logic in discussions right here in 2016?


LOOLOLOLOL @ white people have a fair shot at everything. When is the Caucasian version of Sanford and Son coming out? Who is the white version of Tavis Smiley on BET?


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That response is typical. Silence those who don't swallow the Kool aid. That it cowardice diode.
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bernie sanders seems to be the only elected federal official that want's democratic socialism, how would the governement turn into cuba? wouldn't the rest of the government still fight to keep capitalism? i just explained the difference between what happened in cuba and what the goal of bernie's proposals are, no? you think as bernie gets approved for his socialist programs that the government would somehow take advantage of them and turn our country from a greedy capitalist country to a government interfering corrupted socialist country like cuba? on bernie's watch? @veritas
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Now THAT is ignorance.

You don't think black people run businesses or something??? You don't think there are black owned businesses? You don't think black people can just decide to promote other black people over white people when they are the boss?

The definitions of words like DIVERSITY and MINORITY are completely misunderstood in today's society.

Diversity does not mean HIRE MORE BLACK PEOPLE. It means to have fairness in representing different groups of people. Minority means you are in lesser numbers than another group.

Do you think that there are not ANY cities in the U.S. were the white population is in the minority?



LOOLOLOLOL @ white people have a fair shot at everything. When is the Caucasian version of Sanford and Son coming out? Who is the white version of Tavis Smiley on BET?


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literally none of this is a good point. you think that because a few black owned businesses could promote black employees over white employees, there's some cities where whites are the minorities, and that there's an all black sitcom, and a black host on a black television channel, that white people need groups to defend them in unfair hiring processes?

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bernie sanders seems to be the only elected federal official that want's democratic socialism, how would the governement turn into cuba? wouldn't the rest of the government still fight to keep capitalism? i just explained the difference between what happened in cuba and what the goal of bernie's proposals are, no? you think as bernie gets approved for his socialist programs that the government would somehow take advantage of them and turn our country from a greedy capitalist country to a government interfering corrupted socialist country like cuba? on bernie's watch? @veritas

you speak well. Still in yet, you miss the picture. Socialism turns into governmental dictatorship. where government screws you instead of corporations.

the difference is, the big difference is, that when corporations screw me, my personal "freedoms" aren't messed with.

but when the government screw you, you get no internet, and 8 hour breadlines.

the main point is this: (and I speak to you as a young man who may still be flexible and open minded) More government is the exact OPPOSITE OF what this country was supposed to be.

please try and see it from this perspective. this is the truth. the corporations and government are just two sides of the same control system. problem with your logic is that you are advocating the greater of two evils.

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you speak well. Still in yet, you miss the picture. Socialism turns into governmental dictatorship. where government screws you instead of corporations.

the difference is, the big difference is, that when corporations screw me, my personal "freedoms" aren't messed with.

but when the government screw you, you get no internet, and 8 hour breadlines.

the main point is this: (and I speak to you as a young man who may still be flexible and open minded) More government is the exact OPPOSITE OF what this country was supposed to be.

please try and see it from this perspective. this is the truth. the corporations and government are just two sides of the same control system. problem with your logic is that you are advocating the greater of two evils.

hope you feel me, friend.
i agree with what's in bold. but your statements make it seem as if bernie sanders does not have the integrity to impose democratic socialism without full blown corrupted socialism taking place. and if you think sanders would ever let america turn into a dictatorship then you either haven't watched enough footage of him at congressional meetings or you are judging his character all wrong. if neither of those are true then you are insinuating our federal government would somehow take free health care, free education, a youth jobs program, expanded social security, guaranteed pension, and paid maternity leave and turn it into a communist dictatorship. as those are the only things considered socialist about bernie's proposals. like i told uh oh, i understand people's view of 'more government' is bad. but it's not that simple. it's the type of governing that matters. and if we have an opportunity to create productive governmental programs beneficial to the majority of american people, why would we refuse just because the type of government that exists now has done so much wrong? why wouldn't we fight to replace the bad with good?
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I am glad that you are able to be open minded enough to consider something aside from the NWO agenda. Thank you and respect.

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