all this gay debate shit going round

[Geno]

I'm a city guy myself, fuck nature and the woods. Too many hillbillies

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by oats

Lol just look up the first definition of what "natural" means. You're talking philosophical interpretations of natural, I'm talking standard definition. There really is no debate here tbh.

link me to the definition your going off of. first result in google is

1. Present in or produced by nature: a natural pearl.

human beings are present in, and produced by nature. anything we do is natural. if we were two bee's, having this discussion, we would think humans are just part of nature. we wouldnt be concerned with there evolutionary traits like making tools and shit. we can pollenate shit. humans cant.

(even tho monsanto is working on robot bees. which are "unnatural" according to you because they didnt just come about magically, even tho every part was made from something natural, by humans, who naturally make shit, go figure.)

but word. we just look at things differently i guess.

[Dominate]

It's interesting to me comparing the split in opinions now, in this thread, with similar threads on similar forums from like 10 years ago.... way more people in favour of legalising gay marriage and way less people displaying extreme homophobia.... progress is being made.... :)

Shit is really inevitable. Be on the right side of history.

[Split]

Originally Posted by Genocide

I'm a city guy myself, fuck nature and the woods. Too many hillbillies

Werd

[Plot]

So basically being a poof is unnatural and they shouldn't get married in churches.
Give em some kinda partnership license thing so they get their benefits.
And pulling your dick to lezzo porn isn't homo, as long as they're not butch

[Dominate]

Originally Posted by Dystopian

some kinda partnership license thing

you mean... like a marriage?

LoL

A church marriage is far from being the only type of marriage accepted by the state. Atheists get married and it has nothing to do with the church or any type of religious institution, but it is still recognised as a MARRIAGE by the government. If you want to brand it as anything else then you need to rationalise it with an argument other than that it's not recognised by the church

church marriage is not the same as a marriage by law

[Plot]

So Im confused?
Church marriages, registry marriages..
Poofter partnerships... why dont they get medical benefits?
Isnt that the question here?
they want to get equal govt rights, but need to be married in a church?
So make it that you don't need to get 'partnered' in a church..
They can go and have a bog party on some poofter island to celebrate.

[Allen Knight]

Gow y would u even start this topic....i thought u an ur bf were on good terms

[oats]

@uh-oh Oxford dictionary.

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/def...ural?q=natural

[Dominate]

Originally Posted by Dystopian

they want to get equal govt rights, but need to be married in a church?

No, they need to be recognised as being married the same way that any other couple is recognised as being married, by the government. Nothing to do with a church. They can have a non-religious ceremony.


Calling it anything other than a marriage opens the door for discrimination.

For example, by Australian immigration law same sex partners are allowed to get a partner visa the same as straight couples are - so this is the government recognising a same sex "partnership", HOWEVER, "married" partners can apply straight away whereas unmarried couples have to be living together for a year first.

And in Australian superannuation law there are a bunch of concessions for "related" people operating SMSFs, which includes married people but does not include same sex couples.

I haven't gone looking for this information, this is just what I know incidentally - I am sure there are dozens more examples.

The alternative to calling it a marriage is to change ALL of these laws to include "partnerships" or whatever you want to call it... but why would you?

If you agree that governments should recognise a same sex partnership and give exactly the same entitlements in every aspect of the law to such partnerships as to married couples, then there is no reason not to call this partnership a marriage.

Unless you are trying to argue that a "marriage" must be sanctioned by a religious institution, in which case I point again to atheist couples being called "married".

Not legalising gay marriage would be gay as fuck

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Meth

According to Aero

Oral sex and condoms should both be illegal. You know, since neither lead to reproduction.

Also, having sex for any means other than to have children? Illegal.

thats nto what he is saying and oral sex is actually a part of sex and could be considered an arousal move which happens with alot of animal types(the arousal aspect) so saying oh if its for reproduction then oral shouldnt be used is a fucking stupid arguement and you need your school teaching liscence revoked tbh

[God Of War]

and i started on this topic because I watch the news alot and I saw a school having issues with a 6 year old child for coming and saying he was gay when he is fucking 6. a 6 year old should not be able to determine his sexual orientaiton. so its media,people glorifying the homosexual shit that is making tht happen and its ridiculous

[Dominate]

GOW you can't seriously be advocating that the only legitimate purpose of sex is reproduction. There are better arguments you can make.

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Dominate

GOW you can't seriously be advocating that the only legitimate purpose of sex is reproduction. There are better arguments you can make.

its the truth, i didn't say any one went by it but the fact of it is , is sex is for reproduction by any scientific stand point.

[Dominate]

Originally Posted by God Of War

and i started on this topic because I watch the news alot and I saw a school having issues with a 6 year old child for coming and saying he was gay when he is fucking 6. a 6 year old should not be able to determine his sexual orientaiton. so its media,people glorifying the homosexual shit that is making tht happen and its ridiculous

I agree with this. Pre-pubescent kids can't be considered gay OR straight. You don't have ANY sexual orientation at that age.


But I see ^this as having very little relevance to whether or not two consenting adults should be able to marry.

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Dominate

I agree with this. Pre-pubescent kids can't be considered gay OR straight. You don't have ANY sexual orientation at that age.


But I see ^this as having very little relevance to whether or not two consenting adults should be able to marry.

I see nothing wrong with someone not being able to decapitate someone just because they don't feel like hearing them anymore. or better yet maybe someone who cant have a child wants a kid and you have more then one so i say they should be able to take one of yours rofl


theres no such thing as a homosexual gene so homosexuality is a choice, and if millions of choices daily is wrong then why cant that one be?

[Dominate]

Originally Posted by God Of War

its the truth, i didn't say any one went by it but the fact of it is , is sex is for reproduction by any scientific stand point.

So are you against using birth control?
Are you against post-menopausal women having sex?
Are you opposed to blow jobs that are just blow jobs and don't lead to sex?
Are you apposed to a dude fucking a girl in the ass?


The fact is, at least in western culture, MOST sex is not for reproduction and this is very widely tolerated and even encouraged.

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Dominate

So are you against using birth control?
Are you against post-menopausal women having sex?
Are you opposed to blow jobs that are just blow jobs and don't lead to sex?
Are you apposed to a dude fucking a girl in the ass?


The fact is, at least in western culture, MOST sex is not for reproduction and this is very widely tolerated and even encouraged.

I think anal sex is gay as shit and nasty in genereal so yes i appose to that, as i said in the begining I am not telling any one what to choose I am somply stating my opinions on it.

and about your post menopausal question lets be real and take it out of the homosexual area for a moment. the only reason most people like that have sex is because they link it to some sort of fake emotion or feeling which is love or love like and it makes people feel desired, wanted etc. which it isnt true so its all a fucking brain fart that people make up on there own so no i dont think old people should fuck or have sex . and the birth control I would have to think alot about cuz as of now i have nothing really against it.a nd im not saying things i havent said isnt a bit hypocritical but every one is a hypocrit about everything so yeah.

[billy 12]

lmao

You know God Of War is serious when he capitalizes "I" and uses periods. Holy shit, it's a miracle.

ROFLZZZ