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Old 05-05-2018, 12:08 PM   #21
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There are very few facts in life. You used the gun debate as an example. There is nothing factual in those arguments.
there are facts used to dispute each side. statistics etc, but you are basically arguing my point. you can't debate something that is a fact of life. the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. you can't debate that. you can only debate opinion, and only cite facts that support your opinion.

like amen and his youth football nonsense he's bringing back up. the only time i was saying its impossible for a kid in youth football to get a concussion was when it turned to trolling because you guys weren't paying attention to what i was saying.

which is it is less likely for the youth to get a concussion because of the mass and speed of them, it creates smaller collisions

i think it was brought up again that they are smaller/weaker so they are more susceptible

but the debate lies in there, whether you think their fragility outweighs the strength of the impacts. im assuming you guys think that since they're frail little kids the little impacts they take leave them more susceptible to a concussion than a bigger kid/adult athlete who is actually hitting harder

so the countless times i brought up it being more dangerous the higher levels it goes, was ignored because you guys interpreted that its impossible for a kid to get a concussion. and my trolling saying literally that, after being annoyed at my overall point being ignored didn't help matters. which was its much safer for youth kids to collide in regards to concussions than high school and up.
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there are facts used to dispute each side. statistics etc, but you are basically arguing my point. you can't debate something that is a fact of life. the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. you can't debate that. you can only debate opinion, and only cite facts that support your opinion.

like amen and his youth football nonsense he's bringing back up. the only time i was saying its impossible for a kid in youth football to get a concussion was when it turned to trolling because you guys weren't paying attention to what i was saying.

which is it is less likely for the youth to get a concussion because of the mass and speed of them, it creates smaller collisions

i think it was brought up again that they are smaller/weaker so they are more susceptible

but the debate lies in there, whether you think their fragility outweighs the strength of the impacts. im assuming you guys think that since they're frail little kids the little impacts they take leave them more susceptible to a concussion than a bigger kid/adult athlete who is actually hitting harder

so the countless times i brought up it being more dangerous the higher levels it goes, was ignored because you guys interpreted that its impossible for a kid to get a concussion. and my trolling saying literally that, after being annoyed at my overall point being ignored didn't help matters. which was its much safer for youth kids to collide in regards to concussions than high school and up.
That was your opinion that was not based on facts or evidence. You seem to understand what a fact is in your first bit and then show you don’t in the next. You didn’t show us any evidence your opinion was correct. Everyone but you disagreed with it. Those are situations where you should think about backing up your claims and realizing they’re nonsense when you can’t. Your argument ignores physics and medical research but was okay in your mind because you live in potatoe country so youre a first hand expert.

Debates become nonsense arguments when people think their opinions based on nothing are facts. That whole thread was a perfect example.
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there are facts used to dispute each side. statistics etc, but you are basically arguing my point. you can't debate something that is a fact of life. the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. you can't debate that. you can only debate opinion, and only cite facts that support your opinion.

like amen and his youth football nonsense he's bringing back up. the only time i was saying its impossible for a kid in youth football to get a concussion was when it turned to trolling because you guys weren't paying attention to what i was saying.

which is it is less likely for the youth to get a concussion because of the mass and speed of them, it creates smaller collisions

i think it was brought up again that they are smaller/weaker so they are more susceptible

but the debate lies in there, whether you think their fragility outweighs the strength of the impacts. im assuming you guys think that since they're frail little kids the little impacts they take leave them more susceptible to a concussion than a bigger kid/adult athlete who is actually hitting harder

so the countless times i brought up it being more dangerous the higher levels it goes, was ignored because you guys interpreted that its impossible for a kid to get a concussion. and my trolling saying literally that, after being annoyed at my overall point being ignored didn't help matters. which was its much safer for youth kids to collide in regards to concussions than high school and up.
it's the same thing u fucka retardo. if a chicken fights another chicken to the death it's still a fight to the death- same if a lion were to fight to the desth with another lion. yes lions prob stronger than a chicken but they're still getting hurt but they're just different size u fucking moron fgt
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nobody cares about ur wet dream of super strong football players being so obscenely strong they give each other concussions lmfao fucka idiyote. MY OOINT WAS THAT U HET A CONCUSSION BUT DIFFERENT CUS UR WEak, HEY AMEN I FUCK UR KID IN ANUS HEHE TROLL. inversely if a kid were to rape another kid it would still be rape, her if u were to rape the same kid it probably wouldn't be rape .CUS UR A SMALL DICKED FUCKA IDIYOTE MOWRUN LMAO fuckiA LOSER
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That was your opinion that was not based on facts or evidence. You seem to understand what a fact is in your first bit and then show you don’t in the next. You didn’t show us any evidence your opinion was correct. Everyone but you disagreed with it. Those are situations where you should think about backing up your claims and realizing they’re nonsense when you can’t. Your argument ignores physics and medical research but was okay in your mind because you live in potatoe country so youre a first hand expert.

Debates become nonsense arguments when people think their opinions based on nothing are facts. That whole thread was a perfect example.
my whole argument is physics and medical research

google concussion statistics in youth football vs. high school vs. college vs. nfl

kids weighing 100 lbs that run a 8.8 40 yard dash don't have the same mass and speed as kids that weigh 200 in highschool and put up 4.6's

you guys presented no evidence, just your opinion. so i didn't present any evidence, just opinion, i thought it was retarded to think otherwise. but here is the first article after googling "less likely for concussion in youth football"

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full...25967116686784

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Injury is more likely to occur in youth flag football than in youth tackle football. Severe injuries and concussions were not significantly different between leagues. Concussion was more likely to occur during games than during practice. Players in the sixth or seventh grade were more likely to suffer a concussion than were younger players.
you can extrapolate the data as the players get bigger, stronger and faster

its not a retarded viewpoint, its backed by science, physics and data.

im sure you could google is youth football more dangerous and find an article with facts that back your side

which again proves my whole point of you can only debate things that aren't fact at their core. neither of us will budge on this so if you think im whats wrong with debates understand you are the same person on the opposite side of this debate
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ps. i found a bunch more studies, some even stating that youth football has higher concussion rates than high school (the study that said that followed 400 youth football players and contrasted it with the much larger sample size high school study though) and even that study said 15 of the 20 concussions were in the 11-12 year olds, and the 8-10 year olds risk of concussion was way less.

also keep in mind high school kids don't want to be pussies so they aren't going to pretend to have a concussion because they heard the pads crack

thats me inserting opinon btw
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Kids who weight 100 lbs running a 8.8 40? WHAT... Those are linemen bro.

My son's 72 lbs running a 40 any wheres between a 5.3/5.7 right now. But yea, I'll read the rest of that shortly.

And again, those are opinions.
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my whole argument is physics and medical research

google concussion statistics in youth football vs. high school vs. college vs. nfl

kids weighing 100 lbs that run a 8.8 40 yard dash don't have the same mass and speed as kids that weigh 200 in highschool and put up 4.6's

you guys presented no evidence, just your opinion. so i didn't present any evidence, just opinion, i thought it was retarded to think otherwise. but here is the first article after googling "less likely for concussion in youth football"

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full...25967116686784



you can extrapolate the data as the players get bigger, stronger and faster

its not a retarded viewpoint, its backed by science, physics and data.

im sure you could google is youth football more dangerous and find an article with facts that back your side

which again proves my whole point of you can only debate things that aren't fact at their core. neither of us will budge on this so if you think im whats wrong with debates understand you are the same person on the opposite side of this debate
Now, since your data leads to middle schoolers getting concussions.. How much choice do they have in not getting into that life altering situation before hand? Your main argument was we shouldn’t feel bad for them because they can just not do it with all their facts they’re of course presented, encouraged to believe, and capable of understanding.
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its not life altering even at the high school level

https://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2017/12...good-news.html

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but even in that article they state that football is different today, the players are bigger and stronger and faster

but that doesn't matter right because it doesn't matter if a bigger faster thing collides with a bigger faster thing. its just as bad as a smaller slower thing hitting a smaller slower thing. i mean its science!

my main point of arguing this in the other thread was mainly because im sick of the concussion talk around football, when concussions happen in EVERYTHING. my bumass sister got a concussion from standing up and bumping her head on a shelf. granted she has a weak woman brain so she's more susceptible, but the point being worrying about concussions in youth football is goofy
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but even in that article they state that football is different today, the players are bigger and stronger and faster

but that doesn't matter right because it doesn't matter if a bigger faster thing collides with a bigger faster thing. its just as bad as a smaller slower thing hitting a smaller slower thing. i mean its science!

my main point of arguing this in the other thread was mainly because im sick of the concussion talk around football, when concussions happen in EVERYTHING. my bumass sister got a concussion from standing up and bumping her head on a shelf. granted she has a weak woman brain so she's more susceptible, but the point being worrying about concussions in youth football is goofy
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thats the study that was being discussed which was linked/referenced in someones blog that i linked.
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And my point is proven. Thanks guys
Trying to bring the uh oh debate of peewee precautions to an end for ya.

@uh-oh I will present some counter evidence later tonight, gonna get the kiddo to bed soon.
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