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Old 09-15-2018, 10:46 AM   #41
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:48 AM   #42
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After push exposed Drake idk how anyone can even rate Drake anymore honestly

Drake vs em in hip hop status seems like a weird argument also lol

Drake's not even in the same stratosphere.........again I say this as someone who probably listens and listened to more Drake than most

I won't ever pick up another draoe album tho after this summer
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:50 AM   #43
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You bugging

Never heard scorpion

But u right they in different realms

One sells and one sold a decade ago
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:55 AM   #44
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What about the “authenticity” category?
i don't listen to enough drake to confirm how authentic what he's speaking on is, but im sure its along the veins of him being the shit and fucking bitches. which is pretty authentic to his life im pretty sure lol. em also has always rapped from an authentic standpoint of being a white bum from detroit drug addict etc

but i think you mean more along the lines of being the sole force behind what he's doing like actually writing the rhymes and shit, which again, you guys are weighing with a TON of weight over every other thing involved in making MUSIC. but its hip hop i get it, i frown upon ghostwriters and all that shit too. i think less of drake because of it, but i honestly view him as a producer. not in the dre sense, but the diddy sense. you still need ridiculous talent to be able to pick the beats,producers, the writers, to perform it and execute it, to put together cohesive projects that are dope etc. so i can look at him objectively like yea he is dope

but if you are just referring to it in the sense that drake doesn't write everything he says, then of course eminem gets the nod in one category that he writes everything he says.
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:57 AM   #45
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Admittedly, I’ve never once listened to Drake, so I don’t know what he’s rapping about
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After push exposed Drake idk how anyone can even rate Drake anymore honestly

Drake vs em in hip hop status seems like a weird argument also lol

Drake's not even in the same stratosphere.........again I say this as someone who probably listens and listened to more Drake than most

I won't ever pick up another draoe album tho after this summer
i just want to clarify that i never have or will bump drake of my own accord. pusha didn't change that for me lol

im just saying objectively judging both artists bodies of work, drake is substantially ahead of em

in my opinion. he's made more music that i view as good than em has. but i listen to neither of them
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You bugging

Never heard scorpion

But u right they in different realms

One sells and one sold a decade ago
Nahh man that's just wrong


I hated revival but it still went platinum lmao


I get not liking em that makes sense but to say he doesn't sell that's just in accurate

But word it's an odd comparison to even be grouping these two

Drake won't ever be remembered for anything but dropping club bangers and chick songs

Which is cool....but he's not in goat contention...never has been never will be
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:00 AM   #48
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i just want to clarify that i never have or will bump drake of my own accord. pusha didn't change that for me lol

im just saying objectively judging both artists bodies of work, drake is substantially ahead of em

in my opinion. he's made more music that i view as good than em has. but i listen to neither of them

Lol u understand I want to take u serious and then u close ur argument with I don't listen to either


..... Well I do


And ur wrong lol
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:02 AM   #49
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Old 09-15-2018, 11:08 AM   #50
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Lol u understand I want to take u serious and then u close ur argument with I don't listen to either


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And ur wrong lol
i don't listen to either actively? better?

i've checked all drakes shit, and all of em's shit. as they've came out through the years. drake makes bangers, soft shit etc but its all dope musically, the majority just isn't my vibe. so i don't listen to it. em makes hot garbage. nothing he's made in probably 15 years i could listen to or look at as being good. tracks he has guest verses on are better than his own tracks, because he isn't in the drivers seat of making the song

his beats are garbage, his flows are cornball shit, his hooks are terrible. he makes dogshit music.
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Nahh man that's just wrong


I hated revival but it still went platinum lmao


I get not liking em that makes sense but to say he doesn't sell that's just in accurate

But word it's an odd comparison to even be grouping these two

Drake won't ever be remembered for anything but dropping club bangers and chick songs

Which is cool....but he's not in goat contention...never has been never will be
Spoke without knowledge on the sales . I guess his fan base is very loyal

Album prolly even had a hit single


I just can’t recall it
Where as drake has a hit every time I turn around


Iunno


I think drake is the better MUSICIAN of the two

Then again this is hip hop and Em was debatably is the better rapper


I just don’t think he can survive a beef with drake


Pusha t literally left no scratches on drake
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i don't think you can really END people anymore. their fans ain't gonna care. i mean even jay/nas. ether was better than the takeover undeniably, the average fan knows those tracks, but they don't care about jay's superugly rebuttal. so it ain't like jay saved himself. he just continued to be dope. and nas did too

the only person i can think of that got ENDED was ja rule. which is why 50 is the goat lmao

but word maybe mc shan before that? who actually gets their careers ended with a beef? more curious than anything not being ARUGMENTATIVE lol

that said em would horrifically body drake, but drake would continue completely unphased
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Yes, there are many sides to hip-hop and it has grown very large
As such, multiple artists can exist successfully without having that much crossover when it comes to listeners
And, that results in widely different opinions of who can claim greatness and for what reasons
As we see demonstrated above
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Thank God for people like bags and dullboy to defend em. Drake is a better musician? Is that what I'm reading here?
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The music that Drake puts out is better music in the current climate. In 20 years when we're talking about the greatest rappers of all time..will we be talking about Drake? Idk...Em? Absolutely.
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