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Old 12-23-2024, 11:08 PM   #181
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Old 12-24-2024, 01:02 AM   #183
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Lot of voting action rn. I'll have a vote up on the topical late today or tomorrow sometime. I hope everyone had a great holiday season tbh.
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To clarify, I did not exceed the line limit for three consecutive weeks. In fact, during the first round, it was my opponent who exceeded the limit. No one (save for Dom) raised any objections, and it seemed to have no bearing on the voting. I didn’t mind; I assumed he was inspired and needed to let it out.

In Week 2, I did go over the line limit and even offered to concede the win if requested.

As for Week 3, the line limit was set at 48 lines, which is standard for a championship match. To my understanding—and supported by ample historical evidence, on this site specifically—48 lines equates to roughly 650 words or fewer. My submission is around 540 words. If the standard word count is 12 words per line that's 45 lines, if we go with a max of 15 words per line that's about 36 lines in total. Therefore, the line limit issue here seems more aesthetic than rule-breaking. Look at the length of my lines on a laptop or monitor, most are pretty short. I could have condensed more text into each line to meet the constraint, but the word count and the time it takes to read the piece would remain unchanged.

If we want to be exact about the rules, then sure, I suppose it matters, but it seems like an arbitrary technicality in this case. Ultimately, however, I don’t mind conceding—it doesn’t faze me. For me, this is just a way to pass the time when I have it to spare. I wrote this verse in transit with kids screaming their heads off. lol.

That said, I would humbly recommend implementing both a line and a word limit in future bouts to ensure structural integrity and consistency.
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Old 12-30-2024, 07:08 PM   #189
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To clarify, I did not exceed the line limit for three consecutive weeks. In fact, during the first round, it was my opponent who exceeded the limit. No one (save for Dom) raised any objections, and it seemed to have no bearing on the voting. I didn’t mind; I assumed he was inspired and needed to let it out.

In Week 2, I did go over the line limit and even offered to concede the win if requested.

As for Week 3, the line limit was set at 48 lines, which is standard for a championship match. To my understanding—and supported by ample historical evidence, on this site specifically—48 lines equates to roughly 650 words or fewer. My submission is around 540 words. If the standard word count is 12 words per line that's 45 lines, if we go with a max of 15 words per line that's about 36 lines in total. Therefore, the line limit issue here seems more aesthetic than rule-breaking. Look at the length of my lines on a laptop or monitor, most are pretty short. I could have condensed more text into each line to meet the constraint, but the word count and the time it takes to read the piece would remain unchanged.

If we want to be exact about the rules, then sure, I suppose it matters, but it seems like an arbitrary technicality in this case. Ultimately, however, I don’t mind conceding—it doesn’t faze me. For me, this is just a way to pass the time when I have it to spare. I wrote this verse in transit with kids screaming their heads off. lol.

That said, I would humbly recommend implementing both a line and a word limit in future bouts to ensure structural integrity and consistency.
I'm in agreement - also breaking down the overall rhyme scheme of my opponents verse, I can't quite make it to 48 lines.

I count by skipping "filler", little tidbits, scene information, the like that holds no real bearing on the piece besides as good setting.

Although this piece is a great example of treading the line (to which there will be contention from voters), I don't particularly see a need to call the line count DQ into play.

As an example, I read:
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it was eerily calm. Until Alex deployed the parachute,
and something went wrong. The ripcord jerked violently,
and the canopy ejected, but it didn’t bloom.
as two lines. two incredibly long lines, just formatted to be four visually for the sake of the reader not passing out.

edit: and actually, this is important to me that my opponent isn't DQ'd unless it's obviously out of bounds. if I win this finals, I want it to be won without a DQ (regardless of my ops other circumstances while writing :P)

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To clarify, I did not exceed the line limit for three consecutive weeks. In fact, during the first round, it was my opponent who exceeded the limit. No one (save for Dom) raised any objections, and it seemed to have no bearing on the voting. I didn’t mind; I assumed he was inspired and needed to let it out.

In Week 2, I did go over the line limit and even offered to concede the win if requested.

As for Week 3, the line limit was set at 48 lines, which is standard for a championship match. To my understanding—and supported by ample historical evidence, on this site specifically—48 lines equates to roughly 650 words or fewer. My submission is around 540 words. If the standard word count is 12 words per line that's 45 lines, if we go with a max of 15 words per line that's about 36 lines in total. Therefore, the line limit issue here seems more aesthetic than rule-breaking. Look at the length of my lines on a laptop or monitor, most are pretty short. I could have condensed more text into each line to meet the constraint, but the word count and the time it takes to read the piece would remain unchanged.

If we want to be exact about the rules, then sure, I suppose it matters, but it seems like an arbitrary technicality in this case. Ultimately, however, I don’t mind conceding—it doesn’t faze me. For me, this is just a way to pass the time when I have it to spare. I wrote this verse in transit with kids screaming their heads off. lol.

That said, I would humbly recommend implementing both a line and a word limit in future bouts to ensure structural integrity and consistency.
My b if I was mistaken about the first round, but it still kind of feels like a slap in the face after I let it slide last week. I will give you a fair vote when I do the breakdowns, but just on principle, it doesn't feel like you're making it an even fight. If you're up against good competition, having a significant disparity in lines is a non-trivial advantage.

Line limit judgments aren't my call so you're not disqualified, that's all up to Dominate. I'm counting the lines as formatted in your verse, while skipping anything that isn't at least a couplet. As the writer, you're the one who determines where the lines start and stop, so if you wanted to format it with fewer than 48 lines you could have. if you need to do special line length calculations to bring yourself under, you're probably already breaking the spirit of the rule. You didn't lose the battle just my vote.

And sorry if this feels vindictive or arbitrary, it certainly is not. I still like you as a writer and I'm sure you'll get more votes from me in the future. But I don't think it's random chance that it's taking so long to get votes on the battle (besides being the holidays). You're asking the league for feedback, which is work. You're making it harder for the battle to close when you go over the limits. The people who want to give good feed don't want to do the extra work and you end up left with just the Robranda votes.
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Sorry guys I’m away and still will be for another week or so. We cut it a bit too fine to this time of year in hindsight.

If sym wants AS’s verse to stand then that’s that. No DQ. Open for votes. The other one open for feed I guess?
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Holidays wrapping up so I'm GOING to pull a lars next week and tag everyone that ever lived.
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maybe we can run this back sense there was some people that signed up after this is over, I just like writing.
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@PancakeBrah - thank you for super detailed feedback for both writers + keeping things moving, much appreciated!

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Saint got the dub

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I’ll try and vote on the topical but I’m not much of a topical-er
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I’m with you on this. Appreciate the thorough vote, PCB. Fraze, if you’ve got time to tweak yours, that’d be awesome, but no stress if not.

Honestly, I think the holidays kicked everyone’s ass, so it’s no surprise things have been slow. We’re all old now with real responsibilities and bills to pay. But yeah, if we could wrap this up soon, that’d be cool.
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Not sure what happened to @Dominate, but I’m hoping it's nothing serious. I imagine life is just happening—hopefully for the better. I don’t think tourneys usually take this long to wrap up, but since I don’t compete much, I’m guessing this isn’t the usual pace. Anyway, maybe @Lars (@sral or @Diablo) can go ahead and close this out and archive it, as it doesn’t look like any more votes are coming in for either battle.

Congrats to @symetrik on winning the topical championship—well deserved! Every verse you dropped was memorable. Big props.
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Not sure what happened to @Dominate, but I’m hoping it's nothing serious. I imagine life is just happening—hopefully for the better. I don’t think tourneys usually take this long to wrap up, but since I don’t compete much, I’m guessing this isn’t the usual pace. Anyway, maybe @Lars (@sral or @Diablo) can go ahead and close this out and archive it, as it doesn’t look like any more votes are coming in for either battle.

Congrats to @symetrik on winning the topical championship—well deserved! Every verse you dropped was memorable. Big props.
appreciate you - especially for taking the time to break it down, I'll make time to do the same soon.

I tried my best to get people voting -.- this pace is not normal (although finals do lag more than any other moment in a tournament), it's just one of those things I guess.

I will take your concession honourably :P
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Yeah, man, you had that in the bag anyway—no point in delaying the inevitable. I genuinely enjoyed your metaphorical approach more than my plot-driven narrative. Funny thing is, my original idea was going to be somewhat similar—not in storyline, but in how I tackled the topic. Still, I think we were neck and neck for the first three quarters, but you pulled away in the clutch. That ending was dope. The technique was crazy too—scheme, flow, pacing… all that.

Looking forward to the rematch lol
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