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veritas · 03-26-2019, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Diode

third world lives do not matter to american media to the same level that first world lives do.

sad and terrible fact - but it is not biased to a particular religion, race, etc.

I believe that the news media is against Christianity and this is all part of process. Shall we talk about this? If so, I will do my best to elab

Witty · 03-26-2019, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

I am not. You should be at a stage where you are teaching but you still have to be taught.

The second you said you weren’t biased you tapped out.

The fact that there is no “legit” media investigation Or documentation of the mass killing of Christians. Either proves my point that Christian lives don’t matter, you and sharps point that third world lives don’t matter, or my ultimate conspiracy point which is hard to put into words but I would be willing to try if you gave a crap lol.

Every time extremist muslims murder a bunch of predominately Christian people in Europe it is all over the msm. I could also point at many examples of many many Muslims being killed in third world countries which nobody gave a fuck about

veritas · 03-26-2019, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Witty

Every time extremist muslims murder a bunch of predominately Christian people in Europe it is all over the msm. I could also point at many examples of many many Muslims being killed in third world countries which nobody gave a fuck about

This ties into my conspiracy theory. Thank you fox.

Could we agree to the ratio that the Muslims who are killed are killed by other Muslims and not Christians?

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

I am not. You should be at a stage where you are teaching but you still have to be taught.

The second you said you weren’t biased you tapped out.

The fact that there is no “legit” media investigation Or documentation of the mass killing of Christians. Either proves my point that Christian lives don’t matter, you and sharps point that third world lives don’t matter, or my ultimate conspiracy point which is hard to put into words but I would be willing to try if you gave a crap lol.

I don't recall making a blanket statement that I was unbiased? As I said before, it's confirmed I made a long and citation heavy argument for bias being an unavoidable human trait when arguing on NC1 about racism. While it was ultimately a troll, it was before you existed in this community so let's 1) cut the faggot veritas lite shit and 2) cut the faggot "NEW PERSONA" shit. This is me, always has been, always will be. I like to debate, and I research extremely well.

So stop bringing that up like it's anything. I am biased, like everyone is. Everyone and everything having bias does not make EXTREME bias a non-argument. Something being reported ONLY by ONE source, regardless of if it's legit or not, is questionable. When that ONE source also exist SOLELY to make a point which this story helps, and when it isn't backed up by ANY evidence aside from them saying it, how is that not EXTREME bias?

Like Diode said, which is what Sharp and I have been saying, first world doesn't care as much. This isn't the evil media's fault, it's sensationalism and nationalism that THE PEOPLE are obsessed with. Media sells what's in demand.

Now, even if we look at the story itself.. it's just nonsense. Let's say the one extremely biased source is accurate about the number.. Those people died by the hands of a group that wants everyone that isn't THEIR branch of Islam (not even Islam as a whole) to be rid of. This makes your case for radical Islam being dangerous, while giving you not even a slight farts worth of proof that Christians specifically are being targeted by Islam in general.

You haven't given a lick of evidence to refute any of that. I gave plenty in the thread that got deleted. We can break it down point by point,NOT EXAGGERATED, if you want. But you already know this post is bulletproof in this conversation, so we/others can argue with you about something else. Or go further into a specific point.

Try to stay on topic though.

Witty · 03-26-2019, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

This ties into my conspiracy theory. Thank you fox.

Could we agree to the ratio that the Muslims who are killed are killed by other Muslims and not Christians?

I imagine so, yes.

veritas · 03-26-2019, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead

I don't recall making a blanket statement that I was unbiased? As I said before, it's confirmed I made a long and citation heavy argument for bias being an unavoidable human trait when arguing on NC1 about racism. While it was ultimately a troll, it was before you existed in this community so let's 1) cut the faggot veritas lite shit and 2) cut the faggot "NEW PERSONA" shit. This is me, always has been, always will be. I like to debate, and I research extremely well.

So stop bringing that up like it's anything. I am biased, like everyone is. Everyone and everything having bias does not make EXTREME bias a non-argument. Something being reported ONLY by ONE source, regardless of if it's legit or not, is questionable. When that ONE source also exist SOLELY to make a point which this story helps, and when it isn't backed up by ANY evidence aside from them saying it, how is that not EXTREME bias?

Like Diode said, which is what Sharp and I have been saying, first world doesn't care as much. This isn't the evil media's fault, it's sensationalism and nationalism that THE PEOPLE are obsessed with. Media sells what's in demand.

Now, even if we look at the story itself.. it's just nonsense. Let's say the one extremely biased source is accurate about the number.. Those people died by the hands of a group that wants everyone that isn't THEIR branch of Islam (not even Islam as a whole) to be rid of. This makes your case for radical Islam being dangerous, while giving you not even a slight farts worth of proof that Christians specifically are being targeted by Islam in general.

You haven't given a lick of evidence to refute any of that. I gave plenty in the thread that got deleted. We can break it down point by point,NOT EXAGGERATED, if you want. But you already know this post is bulletproof in this conversation, so we/others can argue with you about something else. Or go further into a specific point.

Try to stay on topic though.

Hang on. Before I address your defensiveness we need to agree that when asked straight away if you had your own biases you said you did not.

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 03:51 PM

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/272488.pdf

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/musl...ry?id=48131273

https://www.csis.org/analysis/islam-...lent-extremism

http://international.ucla.edu/media/...-Terrorism.pdf

To start. Since you want to learn.

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

Hang on. Before I address your defensiveness we need to agree that when asked straight away if you had your own biases you said you did not.

False. Sorry if while responding on my phone while between things I was unclear, but that is not what I meant. Could you quote the post you think I was saying I am completely unbiased to all things?

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

I believe that the news media is against Christianity and this is all part of process. Shall we talk about this? If so, I will do my best to elab

The Murdoch family is against Christianity?

veritas · 03-26-2019, 03:59 PM

I asked if you were biased against Christianity and you said you were not. It is on the gently whispering thread sir.

I would say being an atheist or agnostic as you call it would mean that you are.

veritas · 03-26-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead

The Murdoch family is against Christianity?

By them you mean the media? Yes.

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

I asked if you were biased against Christianity and you said you were not. It is on the gently whispering thread sir.

I would say being an atheist or agnostic as you call it would mean that you are.

In the same way being white makes you naturally biased against other races.

Same way being from the south makes you biased against the north.

Right vs. Left.

Etc

Etc

Etc

Me being an atheist whose life work was to prove atheism as fact would be a good case for relevant bias. There, let's continue by agreeing there is bias in everything, and therefore when we bring up bias we mean RELEVANT bias. Bias that is more amplified by intense conflicts of ideologies.

My views that I've stated here are far from against Christianity. I like the religion as a rock for traditionalism. I don't think it can continue as the majority in a world that isn't overpowered by white nationalism, so that view may leak through to seem like I hate it. I don't.

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

By them you mean the media? Yes.

They own Fox. Look into them and tell me if you think they are against Christians and why you believe such.

veritas · 03-26-2019, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead

https://www.state.gov/documents/organization/272488.pdf

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/musl...ry?id=48131273

https://www.csis.org/analysis/islam-...lent-extremism

http://international.ucla.edu/media/...-Terrorism.pdf

To start. Since you want to learn.

This is alot to look at. But I will. Bear with me.

Destroyer · 03-26-2019, 04:12 PM

Is it too late to weigh in on the emails?
Because I’ll care about the emails when HILARY IS FUCKING PRESIDENT

veritas · 03-26-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead

In the same way being white makes you naturally biased against other races.

Same way being from the south makes you biased against the north.

Right vs. Left.

Etc

Etc

Etc

Me being an atheist whose life work was to prove atheism as fact would be a good case for relevant bias. There, let's continue by agreeing there is bias in everything, and therefore when we bring up bias we mean RELEVANT bias. Bias that is more amplified by intense conflicts of ideologies.

My views that I've stated here are far from against Christianity. I like the religion as a rock for traditionalism. I don't think it can continue as the majority in a world that isn't overpowered by white nationalism, so that view may leak through to seem like I hate it. I don't.

I think you comparing an Athiest's bias against Christianity as the same as a white man's bias against other races or the north south is a stretch, but we can play it.

I am trying to better understand you.

"I don't think it can continue as the majority in a wolrd that isn't overpowered by white nationalism"

That is but a piece of my grand theory. Your very words prove it. Let me read your sources and I will get back to you. I need to return to the drawing board to synthesize now that you have decided to speak to me as a reasonable person sir. Thank you.

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

I think you comparing an Athiest's bias against Christianity as the same as a white man's bias against other races or the north south is a stretch, but we can play it.

I am trying to better understand you.

"I don't think it can continue as the majority in a wolrd that isn't overpowered by white nationalism"

That is but a piece of my grand theory. Your very words prove it. Let me read your sources and I will get back to you. I need to return to the drawing board to synthesize now that you have decided to speak to me as a reasonable person sir. Thank you.

No, I said it is more extreme than those. First bit was general bias that isn't extreme. I was saying an atheist who lives for proving atheism as fact is an extreme that I am not as an "agnostic theist"

If you have the time, look into some of the episodes from The Secret Life of Muslims as well. It is good insight for someone that doesn't have access to meeting muslims easily yourself.

veritas · 03-26-2019, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Knocklehead

No, I said it is more extreme than those. First bit was general bias that isn't extreme. I was saying an atheist who lives for proving atheism as fact is an extreme that I am not as an "agnostic theist"

If you have the time, look into some of the episodes from The Secret Life of Muslims as well. It is good insight for someone that doesn't have access to meeting muslims easily yourself.

I know muslims, Sir. I just rolled against a Mohaommed in the gym on Friday lol. But i can always know more.

~RustyGunZ~ · 03-26-2019, 04:49 PM

I mean know them well enough to understand their religion to a point you have a valid set of knowledge to speak against it.

veritas · 03-26-2019, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by seth

I mean know them well enough to understand their religion to a point you have a valid set of knowledge to speak against it.

I do. And I have studied the Koran as well to be fair.