had a Roy Jones vs Bruce Lee argument and it pissed me off

[VividEnds]

If u think modern martial artists aren't trained in grappling, ur a fool

[EtH]

^This. Martial arts today actually teach 'counter MMA', as a way to feel that they have "one upped" the new sport (although, when you've got an elite grappler/wrestler, who is also a professional athlete, it's a different story all together).

[Wise Wiggles]

If you know how to break small joints its all good.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by Whys Ways

If you know how to break small joints its all good.

I would love to see a fight take place with small joint locks involved. I train them, but at my level it's just "building blocks". We learn the techniques in a broken up way, so that by the time we reach black belt, we'll be ready to put everything together in a fluid movement. I've seen the black belts using the moves at a seminar, two 3rd Dans as well, but again it was still controlled sparring. I'd like to see how effective they really are when the fight comes up.

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

i hate kobe

but from a realistic standpoint

jordan>kobe

10 years from now?

LEBRON>JORDAN>KOBE>KARL MALONE DA UNDERRATED MAILMANGOD

LeBronze is already disqualified for the 2011 finals. Doubt he wins this year without Stern's help.

[Cakedout]

I think Bruce lee would lose, You can't believe what a television shows you. They make it seem like ppl who know kung-fu are the smartest & best fighters. Remember it only takes 1 punch to lead to a knock out.

[God Of War]

are you pancake brah if your not your name is misleading and there for it should be changed

[Cakedout]

Originally Posted by EtH

I would love to see a fight take place with small joint locks involved. I train them, but at my level it's just "building blocks". We learn the techniques in a broken up way, so that by the time we reach black belt, we'll be ready to put everything together in a fluid movement. I've seen the black belts using the moves at a seminar, two 3rd Dans as well, but again it was still controlled sparring. I'd like to see how effective they really are when the fight comes up.

boring

[Beyond]

Originally Posted by Cakedout

I think Bruce lee would lose, You can't believe what a television shows you. They make it seem like ppl who know kung-fu are the smartest & best fighters. Remember it only takes 1 punch to lead to a knock out.

Pretty much.

There's a reason no one's done well with Bruce Lee's martial art in MMA.

In fact, very few have done well with traditional kung fu/Karate/etc.

Only 2 in the sport of MMA that come close are Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, and Silva is Muay Thai which transitions a lot better than the others.

A more interesting match up would be Ando vs Bruce Lee. Now that fight I think Ando wins 100 times out of 100.

[Cakedout]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

i hate kobe

but from a realistic standpoint

jordan>kobe

10 years from now?

LEBRON>JORDAN>KOBE>KARL MALONE DA UNDERRATED MAILMANGOD

Pardon me, But did you just say Jordan > Kobe? Oh I get it, it's all a big joke because you also put Lebron in the same sentence with not only M.j but Kobe.Well I have news for you buddy, You think Jordan got on the phone with Larry and magic back in the day discussing to team up? Nooooo and that's why he will always be considered better than lebron.

[Cakedout]

Originally Posted by Beyond

Pretty much.

There's a reason no one's done well with Bruce Lee's martial art in MMA.

In fact, very few have done well with traditional kung fu/Karate/etc.

Only 2 in the sport of MMA that come close are Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, and Silva is Muay Thai which transitions a lot better than the others.

A more interesting match up would be Ando vs Bruce Lee. Now that fight I think Ando wins 100 times out of 100.

You don't say, The commander Ando. What about a lil Jet Li vs Bruce lee action?

[Beyond]

I could care less who would win out of those two.

Battle of the overrated movie actors.

Throw in Jackie Chan and Tony Jaa for a fatal four way, WWE style.

[God Of War]

beyond you should do a bit of research

jet li actuall won a good amount of things when he was young

[Fart]

Movie actors? lol Bruce wasn't an active fighter?
lol what?!? must be troll

[Beyond]

@God Of War

So did Joe Rogan.

Don't mean either one could compete with the likes of Anderson Silva or George St. Pierre.

[super pimp trillionaire]

ngga MMA didnt exist when Lee was sonnin niggas.
Neither was BOXING anything like the shit we know now.
the question is if instead of being a father to the style suppose Bruce had the advantage of jumping off the shoulders of people like Bruce Lee.

you want to time displace someone.

If you say Bruce at his prime without time displacement then Jones is a non-issue 4 year old. vice versa Bruce is 20-30 years too dead to matter.

stupid right? just as stupid as saying Bruce at his nastiest versus other people at their nastiest who were probably taught by people who were trained by people who were trained by Bruce Lee, and refusing to recognize what you're really looking at. admit it and I'll play time travel make believe time with you. But the nigga is not just famous for saying woooaaaaah. Trainers create trainers, some people in this thread understand that they benefit from Bruce's teachings
kinda like me, ya hero's idol's teacher


aight ya boy is nasty, but he's from a different time.
if your time machine dumped Roy in a sandlot where Bruce was meditating
and God commanded them both to scrap.
Roy is not winning.

BUT ALSO
on the other hand if the time machine dumped Bruce in the middle of a cook-out or whatever junior does to relax... and God said Get em! Roy is not winning.

plus, by 33 bruce was super retired, by 33 roy was absolutely no comparison...

ray used to pay to smack roy around

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...=0&FORM=NVPFVR


oh and heres something I didnt know...
Lee was trained in Wu Tai Chi Chuan (also known as Ng-ga) and Jing Mo Tam Tui for the twelve sets. Lee was trained in the martial arts Choy Li Fut, Western Boxing, Épée fencing, Judo, Praying Mantis Kung-fu, Hsing-I, and Jujitsu.
When Bruce arrived in the US he (already) had training in Wu Style Tai Chi, sometimes in Hong Kong called Ng-ga. And he had of course training in western boxing. He had training in fencing from his brother, that's Epee, that goes from toe to head. He had training obviously in Wing Chun. And the other area was the training he had received in Buk Pie, or Tam Toi, he was twelve sets in Tam Toi. And I believe he had traded with a Choy Li Fut man.
—Danny Inosanto
[cite]Lee, Linda (1989). The Bruce Lee Story. United States: Ohara Publications. ISBN 0-89750-121-7. [/cite]
and don't forget this.
http://www.proboxing-fans.com/the-le...nd-mma_040811/

lmao at this interview dude fuckin up @1:56



bruce a mop roy if he wanted to, and if we had a time machine and God was a stoned college douche and made them fight

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by super pimp trillionaire

ngga MMA didnt exist when Lee was sonnin niggas.
Neither was BOXING anything like the shit we know now.
the question is if instead of being a father to the style suppose Bruce had the advantage of jumping off the shoulders of people like Bruce Lee.

you want to time displace someone.

If you say Bruce at his prime without time displacement then Jones is a non-issue 4 year old. vice versa Bruce is 20-30 years too dead to matter.

stupid right? just as stupid as saying Bruce at his nastiest versus other people at their nastiest who were probably taught by people who were trained by people who were trained by Bruce Lee, and refusing to recognize what you're really looking at. admit it and I'll play time travel make believe time with you. But the nigga is not just famous for saying woooaaaaah. Trainers create trainers, some people in this thread understand that they benefit from Bruce's teachings
kinda like me, ya hero's idol's teacher


aight ya boy is nasty, but he's from a different time.
if your time machine dumped Roy in a sandlot where Bruce was meditating
and God commanded them both to scrap.
Roy is not winning.

BUT ALSO
on the other hand if the time machine dumped Bruce in the middle of a cook-out or whatever junior does to relax... and God said Get em! Roy is not winning.

plus, by 33 bruce was super retired, by 33 roy was absolutely no comparison...

ray used to pay to smack roy around

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...=0&FORM=NVPFVR


oh and heres something I didnt know...
Lee was trained in Wu Tai Chi Chuan (also known as Ng-ga) and Jing Mo Tam Tui for the twelve sets. Lee was trained in the martial arts Choy Li Fut, Western Boxing, Épée fencing, Judo, Praying Mantis Kung-fu, Hsing-I, and Jujitsu.
When Bruce arrived in the US he (already) had training in Wu Style Tai Chi, sometimes in Hong Kong called Ng-ga. And he had of course training in western boxing. He had training in fencing from his brother, that's Epee, that goes from toe to head. He had training obviously in Wing Chun. And the other area was the training he had received in Buk Pie, or Tam Toi, he was twelve sets in Tam Toi. And I believe he had traded with a Choy Li Fut man.
—Danny Inosanto
[cite]Lee, Linda (1989). The Bruce Lee Story. United States: Ohara Publications. ISBN 0-89750-121-7. [/cite]
and don't forget this.
http://www.proboxing-fans.com/the-le...nd-mma_040811/

lmao at this interview dude fuckin up @1:56



bruce a mop roy if he wanted to, and if we had a time machine and God was a stoned college douche and made them fight

damn naq just SHUT the thread down