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Old 09-21-2018, 08:53 PM   #41
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bags where is the scientific evidence of a soul existing you stupid fucking idiot

oh a doctor tapped your knee and your leg moved. I DIDN'T MOVE IT. MUST MEAN THE "ME" IS A SOUL

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I’d like to see memory testing in cloned animals (does a cloned dog know how to shake/play dead or remember an owner)
it wouldn't work like that. when you clone an animal you basically create a copy. its more of an identical twins scenario. while the animals would share the same dna, they wouldn't live the same life. the cloned animal wouldn't have learned any tricks or have any knowledge of the owner who taught them.

the strange shit comes with memory passed down through ancestry. like cats reacting to cucumbers. elephants knowing where water holes are and countless other examples i can't think of.

shit thats passed on without being communicated.
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it wouldn't work like that. when you clone an animal you basically create a copy. its more of an identical twins scenario. while the animals would share the same dna, they wouldn't live the same life. the cloned animal wouldn't have learned any tricks or have any knowledge of the owner who taught them.

the strange shit comes with memory passed down through ancestry. like cats reacting to cucumbers. elephants knowing where water holes are and countless other examples i can't think of.

shit thats passed on without being communicated.
Is that proven yet in successful cloning?
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The mind is the soul u piece of shit

The mind is separate from the brain .... Just read my other posts I'm not going to type them again
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U want to discuss WHAT the mind/soul is and HOW/WHY it exists ....I already conceded that's an endless philosophical argument that I'm not really interested in having
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The mind is the soul u piece of shit

The mind is separate from the brain .... Just read my other posts I'm not going to type them again
nah i read them.

the "mind" has been discussed for MILLENIA. its why we say goofy shit like go with your gut, and speak from the heart, use your brain etc.

the mind is probably everythingTHO. its just the brain is the central operating system OF everything. so we point to it.

but there is a reason im addicted to sugar. its not solely because my brain but my gut chemistry and shit. i've spent 28 years feeding the bacteria in my body trash. and they've multiplied and thrive and crave it. so when im hungry and pass up a salad for mozzarella sticks, my brain is only responding from the triggers presented by the gut.

i could go against it. you may call that my mind. my soul. but i could also eat a bullet. which goes against everything my body and mind wants, which is survival.

you simply fall into the age old god of the gaps. i won't succumb to such fuckery. everything has a mind. its a mechanism of a living being moving through space time. the goat on the side of a mountain checking its footing, and the eagle diving in to pull it off the side, to the bugs that feast on the carcass etc. they all have thought processes at work.

but we won't discuss it.
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The mind is the soul u piece of shit

The mind is separate from the brain .... Just read my other posts I'm not going to type them again

This is stupid
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Is that proven yet in successful cloning?
yea they've been cloning shit mad long. specifically dogs and cats and such.

its literally just dna put in an egg hosted by a surrogate that becomes a new version of the thing

but its a blank slate. the likelihood of the dog even acting the same is different. certain shit will be the same, anything genetic, like prey drive, or propensities to certain moods etc but everything learned would be completely different. and every interaction etc. pushes them off course from the original. if it gets yelled at as a puppy for pissing if the original just got moved or something for example

its basically identical twins. not the same being exactly. the mind is simply how that creature individually perceives the world.
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oh i meant actual cloning

like a direct copy
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oh i meant actual cloning

like a direct copy
word that doesnt exist to my knowledge. genetically they are exact, direct copies. there is no outside DNA but the animal your clonings dna.

but word no scifi movie cloning where a 4 year old golden retriever goes in and a copy of a 4 year old golden retriever comes out.
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nah i read them.

the "mind" has been discussed for MILLENIA. its why we say goofy shit like go with your gut, and speak from the heart, use your brain etc.

the mind is probably everythingTHO. its just the brain is the central operating system OF everything. so we point to it.

but there is a reason im addicted to sugar. its not solely because my brain but my gut chemistry and shit. i've spent 28 years feeding the bacteria in my body trash. and they've multiplied and thrive and crave it. so when im hungry and pass up a salad for mozzarella sticks, my brain is only responding from the triggers presented by the gut.

i could go against it. you may call that my mind. my soul. but i could also eat a bullet. which goes against everything my body and mind wants, which is survival.

you simply fall into the age old god of the gaps. i won't succumb to such fuckery. everything has a mind. its a mechanism of a living being moving through space time. the goat on the side of a mountain checking its footing, and the eagle diving in to pull it off the side, to the bugs that feast on the carcass etc. they all have thought processes at work.

but we won't discuss it.
No man. There is a literal differentiation of the physical chemistry in the brain and the immaterial reflection of the information.

God of the gaps is retarded when in reality saying WE JUST HAVENT FIGURED IT OUT YET....is science of the gaps because the probabilities based on all existing evidence point to god....but instead of conceding to probable evidence...as science should....it refuses and claims we don't know yet.....but science....for sure science...........never god. God of the gaps my ass.

It's not even real science.... philosophical bias to science constrained to natural laws of observation is the antithesis of science

Instead of considering ALL the information ... including the supernatural ..... Only natural evidence is considered and then used to confirm narrowly confined presumptions


Again tho...... Open a psychology book..... The mind and the brain are considered separate.... Regardless of ur blue collar Joe roganite evolutionary ideologies
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word that doesnt exist to my knowledge. genetically they are exact, direct copies. there is no outside DNA but the animal your clonings dna.

but word no scifi movie cloning where a 4 year old golden retriever goes in and a copy of a 4 year old golden retriever comes out.
If they clone me will my clones Dick be bigger?
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No man. There is a literal differentiation of the physical chemistry in the brain and the immaterial reflection of the information.

God of the gaps is retarded when in reality saying WE JUST HAVENT FIGURED IT OUT YET....is science of the gaps because the probabilities based on all existing evidence point to god....but instead of conceding to probable evidence...as science should....it refuses and claims we don't know yet.....but science....for sure science...........never god. God of the gaps my ass.

It's not even real science.... philosophical bias to science constrained to natural laws of observation is the antithesis of science

Instead of considering ALL the information ... including the supernatural ..... Only natural evidence is considered and then used to confirm narrowly confined presumptions


Again tho...... Open a psychology book..... The mind and the brain are considered separate.... Regardless of ur blue collar Joe roganite evolutionary ideologies
i just told you dummy the mind can be EVERYTHING. it doesn't have to just be the brain, or a supernatural entity. it can be your liver and toes i don't give a shit. it exists within you, but without the brain, it ceases to exist.

lets do an experiment. hang yourself faggot

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I’m not reading your other posts but I have question

Would you agree our consciousness is our soul?
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Would you agree our consciousness is our soul?
Well that's too bad cuz the answer to ur question IS IN MY ORHER FUCKING POSTS
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Yo bags not reading your other posts but would you say our brain is located in our heads.
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