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Old 07-21-2018, 11:21 PM   #1
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This debate is usually done be comparing stats from 2008 or 9
But the thing I find people do the most is not compare TD/IN and Comp% from 2008 or 9 for Tom Brady
Tom Brady from 2008-2017 has less TD’s, but that’s about it for notable differences.
Tom’s TD/IN is 3.94 if you only look at 2008-17 or 9-17
Aaron’s 4.01 or so from 8-17 and like 4.1 from 9-17
Tom’s Comp% is 64% (these aren’t exact numbers but I’m only off by .2 or so)
Aaron’s 65.4 from 8 a bit higher from 9.
That and Touchdowns the only thing Aaron’s leading in.
Aaron has 77 In and 23 lost fumbles for 100 turn overs
Tom has 74 In and 16 lost fumbles for 90 turn overs
Tom has more yards but also more attempts.

Now I feel looking over Tom Brady’s career for his TD/IN and completition% isn’t quite fair.

Tom Brady’s two best receivers from 2001-2006 are Troy Brown and Branch, who combined for 70 TD’s and around 13,000 yards across their entire careers ( less than half of which was played with Brady)
Troy played for Tom until 06 and a game.
Deion played until 05 then went to Seattle and then went back to England in 2010
When Tom Brady got the elite receiving staff he did in 07 he went 16-0, and from 07-17 he’s had a 4.1 TD/IN and higher Comp%,
I agree Aaron’s not had an 07 receiving staff, but with Edleman n Gronk’s injuries I think from 08-17 their WR cores been the same in talent
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Brady is the greatest ever.
Arod isn't top,10
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Rodgers is better. Period.
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Old 07-22-2018, 12:38 AM   #5
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Aaron Rodgers is the most skilled quarterback of all time.

Tom Brady is the winningest quarterback.

Stats don't tell the whole story, no matter who they favor. If there was a minute left on the clock and we were down by 4, I would want Aaron Rodgers leading the drive.

I also think Mike McCarthy would have lost his job years ago if he didn't have Aaron. If Tom Brady retired 5 years ago, Belichick would still be the HC for the Pats. Speaks to the people around Tom.

Also, GB has had absolute shit defense for the last 4-5 years. The loss to Seattle in 14 was due to their def/special teams. Arizona in 15 was defense in OT. Atlanta 16 was injury (they were literally playing a nose tackle at right guard), and defense (they let Julio clock 180 yards and two tds).

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Brady is a system qb
Yet the system doesn't work without him...

You going to tell me cassell went 11-5 ...true they didn't make any noise.....you going to say Jimmy g won 2 games...true but whole season...no noise would of been made....

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Not entertaining this shit.

I’d rather discuss Lebron vs Jordan again.
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aaron rodgers is great

brady is better.

aaron rodgers has a slightly better skillset, evading the pass rush, comfortability in the pocket, finding the open guy, hitting guys on the money etc. slightly better. but brady is better at diagnosing defenses, just more cerebral from the X's and O's perspective, and he raises the level of play of those around him. granted coaching plays a part in the latter but yea. so while rodgers has a better skillset, its not better ENOUGH to outweigh brady's IQ and leadership.
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I’d rather discuss Lebron vs Jordan again.
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Matt Ryan is the best QB with no ring
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Tom Brady’s accomplishments will always be better than Aaron’s, but not just because of SB,
This year idk if there was a better player then TB 12 to be MVP,
In 10 he was the first person to get all the votes for MVP, and in 07 there was no question. In 11 Aaron deserved it but a point could be made Drew Brees deserved it more. 5.5 thousand yards, 46 TDs and a defensive worse than Aaron’s.
In 14 JJ Watt had 5 defensive TDs, 2 picks, 20.5 sacks and took a 2-14 team
To 9-7. He deserved MVP more than Aaron,

TB12 has one season a point can be made otherwise than him winning MVP,
Aaron has 1 really close MVP and a snub.

In the 14 NFC Championship, Aaron had a terrible performance, he wasn’t good, he choked that game. It was ultimately the defensive’s fault they lost, they choked harder than Aaron. But Tom Brady’s team choked too in SB42, a failing offensive line, dropped interception, lucky catch, and dropped pass that Randy Moss probably could’ve caught to put them in field goal range.
Wes Welker’s dropped Pass and a defensive unable to make a stop lost him the other Giants SB. Bad reffing lost him the 06 divional round, he’s lost games that weren’t his fault to.
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I wanna say Carson Wentz, and I wanna say Philip Rivers, and I’m going to say Jimmy G, because I don’t count two rings as a backup.
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phillip rivers is overrated as shit. jimmy G hasn't played enough but has played well.

same with carson wentz but i like his argument ALOT more than jimmy G. wentz was basically the hands down MVP before he went down.
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Yall believe them guys are better than Matt ice?

Ryan stats stand up against anybody...wins is up there. ...he has a MVP...he was bad coaching away from a ring....though he played a role in the debacle.....
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Yall believe them guys are better than Matt ice?

Ryan stats stand up against anybody...wins is up there. ...he has a MVP...he was bad coaching away from a ring....though he played a role in the debacle.....
Look at Matt Ryan 2016 (MVP) to 2017 (20TD-12INT)

He needs a brilliant OC to do anything. There are at least 3 active QB's without a ring better than him right now
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