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Old 01-14-2021, 12:49 PM   #61
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look hard enough, you will always find dissenting opinions
what’s the general consensus?
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look hard enough, you will always find dissenting opinions
what’s the general consensus?
that’s the smart play
That’s not the case in the betting industry. The smart play is bet against the public 9/10

600 years ago the general consensus was geocentric theory. You’d be considered a conspiracy theorist for thinking the earth revolves around the sun.

General consensus 100 years ago was slaves are a good thing to have.

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Most people also think its a bad idea to stick your fingers in an electrical socket. If you're betting against the public consensus 9 times out of 10, how are you still alive right now?
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Most people also think its a bad idea to stick your fingers in an electrical socket. If you're betting against the public consensus 9 times out of 10, how are you still alive right now?
The betting industry dummy. Find me the odds for that bet first, I’d argue it doesn’t exist.

Which would prove you’re just making shit up again
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That’s not the case in the betting industry. The smart play is bet against the public 9/10

600 years ago the general consensus was geocentric theory. You’d be considered a conspiracy theorist for thinking the earth revolves around the sun.

General consensus 100 years ago was slaves are a good thing to have.

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hey, dumb shit
it’s the smart play even in betting
no risk... small reward
haven’t you ever even seen rounders? i bet you thought knisch was a bitch too
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That’s not the case in the betting industry. The smart play is bet against the public 9/10

600 years ago the general consensus was geocentric theory. You’d be considered a conspiracy theorist for thinking the earth revolves around the sun.

General consensus 100 years ago was slaves are a good thing to have.

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general consensus 1000 years ago was fire plus food good idea
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFntHpk1uok


This video can’t be understated.

This is a doctor/lawyer, giving an hour speech. She represents a
“Volunteer physician organization, started specifically to combat the serious and life threatening disinformation campaign that has taken over America and the globe.”

The speech is what MSM would refer to as “dissenting medical opinion”

This is the information that gets scrubbed and blocked, it’s why the host has the video unlisted, comments disabled, and this only travels through personal link, and still has 200k views.

You owe it to yourself to listen to some of this.

Everything sourced and cited btw.

Timestamps: (I highly recommend watching from start to finish for context. She makes references later in the speech that wouldn’t make much sense if you didn’t listen throughout)

1:40 - NIH incorrect policy on treatment

3:20 - Renaming it from wuhan virus and why that’s abnormal

4:58 - suspicious hydroxychloroquine bashing as dangerous, when it’s a common otc drug in lots of places around the world and proven as treatment

20:51- The Lancet (most famous medical journal ) corruption. Published study in April about hydroxy. Independent doctors looked at it, said no way there’s 90k people in the study, and no ones heard of it. They ultimately retracted the article, (once a generation event!) and media buried the story . This same, now redacted, story was used as the source to ridicule trump when he praised the black doctor that said hydroxy was a cure.

23:40 - potential issues with the experimental biological agent (aka vax)

-mRNA (brand new), “investigational stage” which leads to legal protection
-complete failure of previous coronavirus vaccine attempt

(2002 epidemic of sars cov 1)
(This is 78% identical to sars cov 1)

-25:21 no independently published animal studies (one says they have, but not published)

-25:48 known complications
“Antibody dependent enhancement”
“Immune enhancement”
“Pathogenic priming”

“Instead of causing immunity, it causes a person to overreact in a negative way if they should be exposed to the virus”

-26:43 Saw this with prior cov 1 vaccine in 2005 with ferrets . Later they exposed sars cov 1 to ferrets in the wild, and they died. Could this happen with humans?

-27:43 Potential unknowns:
Fertility issues :

-28:36 Does it affect the syncytiotrophoblast , a layer on the placenta. It does when you’re sick with covid 19, and the vaccines kind of mimic having covid indefinitely

Does this agent have the same negative effect indefinitely? We don’t know

2 Europe ex-Pfizer executive filed petition with European equivalent of FDA, can’t approve it. Haven’t answered question about placenta and antibody dependent enhancement”

They claim it’s unsafe for child bearing age women until questions are answered

-30:16 pharmaceutical manufacturers are immune from liability (mostly profit-motivated)

-31:27 no proof that the agent stops transmission. Irrational! The surgeon general stated this on good morning America in December

What if they give 100m vaccines to everyone, and then everyone tests positive, they will say cases are rising and we can never go back to normal lol

-32:53 no proof this is reducing mortality

-33:15 we don’t know how long it lasts

-36:08 her studies on people of color and vaccines, and how it relates to the push for black people to get it
(38:31 starts exposing examples in media)

-39:06 using racial justice in a scientific matter is illogical

-42:58: pharmacovigilance tracking system (volunteering for a medical trial) established by DOD, will track for 2 years, handed to oracle and google to set up the data

-47:23 - vax distribution recommendation & reason based on age and health


You’re welcome. If you have even an ounce of intellectual curiosity you need to watch this video.

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Old 01-14-2021, 02:32 PM   #68
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It's funny to me that we're hyper focused on a handful of people (literally in the 10s or 100s) that have a survivable response to the vaccine, but you have no problem ignoring 4000s people dying every day.
Not to mention, it's not like it isn't widely known the vaccine isn't tested on a huge group of people yet, it is still in the stages of perfection. Serious question, do you guys really think they mainly test/give such a costly and important thing on mostly the elderly at first by chance? It's great if it works but also the least damaging on society if it doesn't. Definitely a conspiracy theory on my part, but hell, I don't think anyone can convince me otherwise of this

Lots of people have died and risked thei lives for vaccines to get the proper testing to get to this point in time where it's in a trial period for the public. It sucks that shit like this can happen but like you're saying, she isn't dead. If it is treatable, then damn, it's worth the side effect if the option is a very high risk of dying, or infecting others that will if they get it.

Side effects isn't surprising, it just sucks that it isn't as good as it can get yet. What's great is the courageous people taking the vaccine already now (and should know it is a risk this early), it's thanks to them we're moving forward with everything!

Sucks that the lady don't see it as such, and tells people not to take it instead of being an important voice in further development of it. And rooting on the people that work day and night risking to get infected themselves, some for free, with the virus to get a functional and predictable vaccine.

There's still a lot to be done, why this is surprising to some of you makes me scratch my head a little. What we're seeing here is a step in the right direction
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9) look up the psychological effects of wearing a mask in public. If you walk around in a society of masks, it makes everyone believe that there’s something scary out there. Look up being unable to read human expression, and isolating people and making them think they are a danger to loved ones, and how that relates to torture techniques

Dude I somewhat agree with you when you say to be cautious of this vaccine.

But then you take it up another level into the anti-masker zone.
Ridiculous. There IS something scary out there, COVID, as 400k Americans are dead.

The mask is the simplest most effective way on cutting down the spread. You can't whine about it.
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If you have been vaccinated then why does wearing a mask matter?
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Dude I somewhat agree with you when you say to be cautious of this vaccine.

But then you take it up another level into the anti-masker zone.
Ridiculous. There IS something scary out there, COVID, as 400k Americans are dead.

The mask is the simplest most effective way on cutting down the spread. You can't whine about it.
We all have opinions. Personally, I give two shits about masks. But there is a psychological effect on people there’s no doubt about it.

The “scary” comment should be taken as “everyone wearing a mask, even when healthy, makes people think that everyone else is infected/someone wrong with them, encouraging less human interaction” ... which leads to the aforementioned psychological problems over an extended period of time
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If it is treatable, then damn, it's worth the side effect if the option is a very high risk of dying, or infecting others that will if they get it.
1) not treatable so far, it hasn’t stopped for her since it started
2) “if the option is very high risk of dying” - it’s not for anyone under 65 without any underlying issues
3) “...or infecting others that will if they get it” - it has been publicly stated by Fauci, the Pfizer ceo, and other officials that the vax does NOT prevent transmission. That’s not what it’s designed for, though for whatever reason people think it is.


Ultimately, the issue with this is that it is an experimental biological agent, who’s creators can’t be sued, that was rushed at an historic pace, that was not tested on animals (extremely important), that we have no clue if it causes infertility in woman, and the chances of the average person being fine WITHOUT taking it is sky high.
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More than 38,000 Americans have died of Covid-19 in the first two weeks of the new year.

Another 92,000 are projected to die from the virus over roughly the next three weeks, according to an ensemble forecast published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

it’s not bullshit, morons
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More than 38,000 Americans have died of Covid-19 in the first two weeks of the new year.

Another 92,000 are projected to die from the virus over roughly the next three weeks, according to an ensemble forecast published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

it’s not bullshit, morons
take the fucking vaccine
Do you know how many of those 38,000 received the vaccine? Do you know if it’s most of them, or barely any? All or none?

Hmmm


Another question


Do you think that if all 38,000 took the vaccine they’d all be alive?

If yes, what are you basing that on? If no, why take the vaccine then?

Answer those questions and you might realize why what you’re saying makes no sense
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Then why are they still mandating those who have been vaccinated to continue to wear masks?
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Then why are they still mandating those who have been vaccinated to continue to wear masks?
Clearly this is the next logical question. You are asking the right ones.

The answer of course, is because the vax doesn’t stop transmission. Meaning you are basically only getting it “on the off chance” you get the virus, “there’s a chance” the symptoms will be “slightly” more bearable .


But let’s see what his scripted, programmed, brainwashed answer will be .


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