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Old 11-26-2013, 03:45 PM   #1
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Keep an eye on it. Finding out many new things about this space invader. It is hyperbolic...coinciding with the last ice age. Also NASA has also said they cannot predict what will happen if it survives the sun on the 28th. Three to five km at the core. If the sun sends it in pieces...these pieces will all be slingshot around the sun and all will have there own trajectories. These pieces would compare sizeably to the Russian meteor that hit earlier this year.


On a lighter note...if it remains intact it will be heralded as one of the most dazzling displays in the night sky for quite sometime as it heads back out on an enlongated elliptical orbit
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Fyi...the jpl model has changed its hyperbolic status three different times since the weekend. It was initially found to be a one hitter quitter up until this weekend. It gave mars: a tail and it boasts six to seven tails of its own. Also survived a cme which turned it blue
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Been reading about comet ison.

I didn't read this though, what is the probability of one of those pieces hitting earth?
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Old 11-26-2013, 03:58 PM   #4
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Dunno. Trajectories are incalculable as of now
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Old 11-26-2013, 11:56 PM   #6
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Sun just shot another cme at ison. If you know Jim mccanneys model on the electric universe then you know what's good
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James McCanney is objectively a physics hack... like, he doesn't understand basic E&M that he uses to posit his theories.
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Old 11-27-2013, 12:12 AM   #8
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this is the 2nd time Ison has been shot by the sun. Even the orbital influence in speed, these are charged masses interacting with one another, growing tails, changing colors. This solar maximum is one of the lowest on record, then this ball of ice and dust appears (snickers) and somehow beckons the attention of the OG around these parts. Yeah.....that little ball of ice and dust lol
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Well, most of his theories revolve around an idea that the sun's solar wind is positively charged particles... he believes this because the sun emits large streamers of positively charged particles into space

But this just means it is ionized.


There are loads (loads) of experiments done on the solar wind in space that show that it is ionized, not charged.

If the sun emits positive charge, a negative charge would have to collect on its surface... this negative charge on the surface would result in a completely different model for the sun's magnetic field and the movement on the sun's surface that we see/ measure with different imaging techniques etc.




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On September 24, 2012 the official announcement of a new comet discovery of comet C/2012 S1 (ISON) showed this comet, that is currently beyond the orbit of Jupiter, would spend the next 13 months moving towards a near miss of the Sun in November of 2013. The current orbital calculations indicate it will come to within 2 million kilometers of the Sun (about 8 times the distance from earth to our moon) and then if it survives this passage will pass around to about half the distance between earth and the sun. Concurrent with this announcement the gov disinfo crew as well as the gov paid apologists are out in full force to perform damage control and protect their sacred "dirty snowball comet model". A comet like this could really bring attention to the public about how absurd their theory is not to mention the ongoing efforts to divert attention from the fact that an alternative and accurate comet theory has existed for over 30 years. I developed this theory in the midst of the top space science and astronomy department in the world at Cornell University. They have successfully kept the press at bay over all these decades. But few have faith in the government and their hired scientists who continue to pawn off garbage science on the public. Follow the following link and return frequently for updates on this comet that could provide the definitive visual evidence to the public that my comet theory ... The Plasma Discharge Comet Model ... is correct and always was the correct theory. This will set an entire precedent to start the dominos of traditional astronomical theory falling. jim mccanney


....essentially, McCanney hangs onto this assumption because it is the basis for the rest of his work- disproving the snowy dustball comet model or w/e

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Primary results concerning the discharge of the solar capacitor included the following:

electrons, due to their higher mobility, are the primary charge carriers in a discharge

these are collected by the asteroidal obstruction, causing a build-up of negative charge on the comet nucleus

positively ionized atoms, molecules and dust particles form the plasma tail and are attracted towards the comet nucleus. They are not melting away as specified in the ice ball comet model

the comet tail shape is formed as ions and dust particles stream into the comet nucleus, following the electric field lines of the negatively charged sun and comet nucleus. The myriad of effects observable in comets are readily explained in terms of this model.

Once the physics of the solar capacitor and its discharge were understood, a limitation to further understanding and theoretical work was the lack of close range information on:
the extent of the local electrical field of the comet nucleus
the current levels which are passed in the cometary discharge
the dynamics of electron flow around the nucleus, etc.
"my theory explains everything. except my theory does not explain everything"

the dynamics of the tail formation rely on the comet passing through a charged medium, which space is not...

he's clinging to a variation on the "aether" model of space, most likely due to bitterness from being discredited by his former peers at Cornell... I actually feel for the guy.



anyways, on top of all that, he has some really outrageously dumb views on comet size/ gaining mass that only exist to create symmetry in his web of inaccuracy.

like, he believes that comets gain mass by collecting dust as they travel through space at 30-45 km/s

and that they are incrementally growing all the time.

but when you have a collision, there is energy transfer.

the number of collisions grows exponentially as the comet grows due to increased surface area

this means HUUUUUUUUGE amounts of energy are being transferred into the comet

and he still believes that the comet is growing indefinitely during all this


well, if you work out the math, the comet would essentially have to be absorbing energy equal to 2,500 TRILLION NAGASAKI BOMBS EXPLODING ON ITS SURFACE EVERY SINGLE SECOND

Okay. Now, let us assume that Nbiru is the size of our moon.

it is hurtling Chyeahhh. hurtling. towards the earth.


this object being, as McCanney describes it, a hot, dense mass of rock, has a certain gravitational binding energy. Or an energy that must be overcome to tear it apart.

So, using numbers from before, the energy required to vaporize a comet of the Moon's mass would be about 10^36ergs, or one-hundredth the heat released by the impacts.


The heat caused by McCanney's "mass gain" is actually enough to destroy the comet itself.


it's a huge house of cards, Chyeahhhh
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also the only way to access most of his documents and theories is in like, pseudoscience novels at bookstores and through his website's collection of DVD's (buy $249 of items and get shipping free!!!!)...

and his theories and articles are littered with snipes at Cornell and academia and NASA.

when really, his ideas are at odds with every astronomer across the globe. and clearly every Peer, as they chuck his papers in the trashbins at Reviewed Journal Inc.
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@ Split all of his shows are free on his website, there are even pdf's floating around of his books. He doesn't even charge for interviews lol. Psuedo scientific is just another way of saying that he isn't mainstream accepted. Just trigger words of ignorance
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who said anything about Nibiru though? *shrugs* your walls are very compelling, I'm just too lazy to reply the way I need to right now, lol
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@ Split all of his shows are free on his website, there are even pdf's floating around of his books. He doesn't even charge for interviews lol. Psuedo scientific is just another way of saying that he isn't mainstream accepted. Just trigger words of ignorance
Pseudo scientific is a way of saying that his theories are mathematically flawed within their own confines, let alone tested against other theories for precision and accuracy
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who said anything about Nibiru though? *shrugs* your walls are very compelling, I'm just too lazy to reply the way I need to right now, lol
He did lol
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