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Old 04-19-2020, 04:11 PM   #1
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Default Week 3 Contendership Battle: Cashius (2-0) vs. Letterman (2-0) - CASH WINS

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Old 04-19-2020, 06:41 PM   #2
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4) @Letterman -Last seasons LLL champ is a threat and anyone who takes him lightly will regret it.
So, I peeped RB...

It was like a contest to see who’s writtens is worse, the shit got me irked...wow
Took the LLL. But HERE, you would’ve only taken one...and it would’ve been in the first round
A 12 line champ match after 2 rounds?! This should be nothing but obvious, brethren
Compared to NBL that’s a JV league...So, why the FUCK would we call you a Letterman
Shoot every thread of your shirt ‘til you dead or you hurt...you leavin’ this world open
When I ‘bust at the seams, you getting stretched’...like every piece of your girls clothing
Forensics in awe of my knife work...never seen so much amplified neck squirt
I’ll have the cops analyzing Letters Flow...WITHOUT their handwriting expert
Multiple guns to ya squad. You wanna hold-heat-like-Cash?...go see the draft
Tua come out the pocket and cause injury concerns...then your whole team’ll pass
Brother spends thousands on caucasian pussy...but puts on an act where he’s mad tough
Wheel of Fortune...’Letter’ll flip for this White bitch’ ‘til this Black Square is Bankrupt
You left NC and took RB’s title. But in the NBL...you can’t recover your best days
You’re Gronk...claimed a fake belt, then came back to the league to do nothing but catch fades

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Beam on the gun. It’ll prove I aint messing w/ this faggot
It’s like sending a text thru MMS - you’ll get the message with the attachment
Ur an easy kill. Eagle out.. I’ll have you dead without the effort
& everyone will see that he Israelite, once this bitch gets led out the desert
U come from a long line of incest. That’s why imma let the tool lift, scrap
I’ll run in & raise a couple in your home.. but your family should already be used to that
We both got entertaining bars, but urs are lies. He could never be me
Cuz I keep the building suspenseful.. & this fraud only keeps them on the edge of deceit
U thrive off easy wins. So when it comes to being number one, you not
Cuz I’ve checked your stats, & you’ve never had to count on punches with the compubox
1st I’ll shoot your bitch.. & if you stick around then you get the chrome, son
So that means after the 40 meter, dash.. or else you won’t make it in the long run
Funerals are expensive, so it’s a shame that relatives gotta view ur death then
But your family will see cold, hard cash.. cuz they’ll be watching u as the rigamortis sets in

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Old 04-24-2020, 03:49 PM   #6
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It was like a contest to see who’s writtens is worse, the shit got me irked...wow
Took the LLL. But HERE, you would’ve only taken one...and it would’ve been in the first round
Decent opener - the personal angle lended itself to the punch well. Read a little telegraphed due to the setup, but the wording was clean; a good start
A 12 line champ match after 2 rounds?! This should be nothing but obvious, brethren
Compared to NBL that’s a JV league...So, why the FUCK would we call you a Letterman
Simple, but effective - a nice play off the opener that kept w/ the personal angle. I like these shorter lines from you; it wasn’t a huge punch, but the directness added some sting
Shoot every thread of your shirt ‘til you dead or you hurt...you leavin’ this world open
When I ‘bust at the seams, you getting stretched’...like every piece of your girls clothing
Wasn’t feeling this one.. just seen too many concepts similar to it & tying it in w/ his girl seemed too indirect to me. It was still worded & delivered well, just didn't feel like it landed
Forensics in awe of my knife work...never seen so much amplified neck squirt
I’ll have the cops analyzing Letters Flow...WITHOUT their handwriting expert
Yup. Again, a straightforward punch w/ clean wording & great execution.. not a haymaker by any means, but the fact that you're able to formulate these creative, well-packaged jabs so consistently is really impressive
Multiple guns to ya squad. You wanna hold-heat-like-Cash?...go see the draft
Tua come out the pocket and cause injury concerns...then your whole team’ll pass
Fire (& you just ruined a line I wrote similar to this for next week, which makes it even better)
Brother spends thousands on caucasian pussy...but puts on an act where he’s mad tough
Wheel of Fortune...’Letter’ll flip for this White bitch’ ‘til this Black Square is Bankrupt
Another creative & conceptually sound bar. Again, not a showstopper - but tying together a truly unique angle like this w/ a relative setup, crisp wording & impactful punch while not being overstated is really rare
You left NC and took RB’s title. But in the NBL...you can’t recover your best days
You’re Gronk...claimed a fake belt, then came back to the league to do nothing but catch fades
This was dope; a creative & relevant closer worded near-perfectly


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Beam on the gun. It’ll prove I aint messing w/ this faggot
It’s like sending a text thru MMS - you’ll get the message with the attachment
Simple, but effective.. the "text/message" tie-in's been played out, but this was a fresh spin on it & was worded really well
Ur an easy kill. Eagle out.. I’ll have you dead without the effort
& everyone will see that he Israelite, once this bitch gets led out the desert
Again, I've seen the "Israelite" wordplay used in the past, but you kept the setup clean & the punch itself gave it a unique spin; definitely the best I've seen. I fuck w/ the bar as a whole
U come from a long line of incest. That’s why imma let the tool lift, scrap
I’ll run in & raise a couple in your home.. but your family should already be used to that
This's funny.. not really a hard-hitting punch, but I haven't seen a concept used like that before, much less a bar about incest lol.. wording was clean & delivered well
We both got entertaining bars, but urs are lies. He could never be me
Cuz I keep the building suspenseful.. & this fraud only keeps them on the edge of deceit
Wasn't feeling this. The setup tied in to the punch well enough, but "keep the building suspenseful" sounded kinda corny to me & "edge of deceit" hearkened me back to those dreaded "defeat" bars. It's creative, so you get points for that; but as a conceptual insult/punch goes, I think it was a miss
U thrive off easy wins. So when it comes to being number one, you not
Cuz I’ve checked your stats, & you’ve never had to count on punches with the compubox
Fire.. no real critiques, aside from maybe making your wording a little harsher to build up the impact. This was a dope bar (& possibly my favorite of the battle, so far).. creative concept that was packaged almost flawlessly - my hat's off to you
1st I’ll shoot your bitch.. & if you stick around then you get the chrome, son
So that means after the 40 meter, dash.. or else you won’t make it in the long run
Again, this is fire - straight to the point w/ crisp wording & no fluff. I could read 100 lines of this
Funerals are expensive, so it’s a shame that relatives gotta view ur death then
But your family will see cold, hard cash.. cuz they’ll be watching u as the rigamortis sets in
A very solid punch, but unfortunately it fell flat to me as I used the exact same nameplay against him in a Fight Night Finals like 7 years ago.. not that anyone would expect you to know that. For what it's worth, I used it as my closer then, too

Overall, this was the battle I was looking forward to the most & it didn't disappoint. I knew Cash was going to bring it - the guy's been on a tear for almost a decade now & hasn't let up; he rarely slacks & even his misses would be considered quotables for most ppl. I had heard of Letterman, but never read anything from him.. & I'm glad I got the chance. He had some really sound concepts w/ great wording & execution, albeit a few angles I've seen before. Will definitely be looking forward to seeing more from him

All in all, I think Cashius outpaced Letter here; he brought fresher angles w/ more relevance & just threw volume throughout his verse. It's tough to beat that kind of consistency. Letterman's verse would be a problem for almost anyone signed in atm, but I would've liked to see him get more personal w/ Cash & go for broke. Cheers, fellas

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Old 04-25-2020, 12:11 AM   #7
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Cashs opener was alright.. I've seen this angle on LLL done before a lot of different ways. so it just didn't feel as fresh to me..
Seen the Letterman play done alot before to... Same as cash nameplays on you... I've read tons on Letterman..n this wasn't one of the better ones... This still hit but felt like a jab
I thought the seams bar was cool... Not super hard but it was a hit..
Letter flow was a smooth hit... Wording was on point..
Injury concerns hit hard.. dope bar
Wheel of Fortune was creative but wasn't that harsh... Came off as a jab to me.
Your closer hit for me...
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Letter opener was a cool crisp hit..nice wording...didn't pack a ton of sting but it hit
Isreal was another smooth worded bar... Cool hit
Incest bar I thought was creative... Made me lol.. came off real fresh to me ..the punch wasn't crazy but overall nice
Suspenseful was a miss for me...Compubox was tight.. smooth all around
40 meter was cool....the opener was a ok hit... Mild nameplay...

This is a close battle..I hadda go back n reread some more bars..after going back it's still hard to choose..I guess I will go with cash....I think they were tie in everything...but I guess cash had one more heavier hitting bar then letter..tough call man..could go either way.. VOTE CASH
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It was like a contest to see who’s writtens is worse, the shit got me irked...wow
Took the LLL. But HERE, you would’ve only taken one...and it would’ve been in the first round

wording's effective, concept is cool but doesn't really jump out as something that's out of the box fresh 8/10

A 12 line champ match after 2 rounds?! This should be nothing but obvious, brethren
Compared to NBL that’s a JV league...So, why the FUCK would we call you a Letterman

This is a cool nameflip tied in with the personal, maybe a notch above the previous line, but I think having two bars about him champing a league on another site is kinda overkill, especially when it's not really a humiliating personal. 8/10

Shoot every thread of your shirt ‘til you dead or you hurt...you leavin’ this world open
When I ‘bust at the seams, you getting stretched’...like every piece of your girls clothing

This is ok, I think maybe you could've done something a bit more creative with the "getting stretched" idea. 7/10

Forensics in awe of my knife work...never seen so much amplified neck squirt
I’ll have the cops analyzing Letters Flow...WITHOUT their handwriting expert

This is cool, I think maybe adding some other element to it could've made it stronger but it's decent. 8/10

Multiple guns to ya squad. You wanna hold-heat-like-Cash?...go see the draft
Tua come out the pocket and cause injury concerns...then your whole team’ll pass

This was dope, no complaints. 9/10

Brother spends thousands on caucasian pussy...but puts on an act where he’s mad tough
Wheel of Fortune...’Letter’ll flip for this White bitch’ ‘til this Black Square is Bankrupt

Eh I've seen way too many vanna white bars over the years, and it's a pretty obvious play on the name 'letter'. You put a few more bells and whistles on it, but it just didn't resonate with me. 7/10

You left NC and took RB’s title. But in the NBL...you can’t recover your best days
You’re Gronk...claimed a fake belt, then came back to the league to do nothing but catch fades

Solid personal tied in with a current event, execution is decent. 8/10


55/70 - 78.6%




Beam on the gun. It’ll prove I aint messing w/ this faggot
It’s like sending a text thru MMS - you’ll get the message with the attachment

I've seen similar, but the wording is done well. Not a haymaker, but a solid jab. 7/10

Ur an easy kill. Eagle out.. I’ll have you dead without the effort
& everyone will see that he Israelite, once this bitch gets led out the desert

Israelite has been done before, and while I like the desert/israelite tie in I think execution-wise it has holes in it. Still a good bar though. 8/10

U come from a long line of incest. That’s why imma let the tool lift, scrap
I’ll run in & raise a couple in your home.. but your family should already be used to that

This is unique, and it's worded well. I just don't love leaving out the noun in the set-up part of the punchline. I think it was necessary to make this work, but it just didn't hit with me as a full haymaker. 8/10

We both got entertaining bars, but urs are lies. He could never be me
Cuz I keep the building suspenseful.. & this fraud only keeps them on the edge of deceit

I'm not really feeling this, it feels like it's trying to be flashy with wp but it doesn't really have a point and syntactically it's just weird. 7/10

U thrive off easy wins. So when it comes to being number one, you not
Cuz I’ve checked your stats, & you’ve never had to count on punches with the compubox

I like this. this is creative, worded well, no complaints 9/10

1st I’ll shoot your bitch.. & if you stick around then you get the chrome, son
So that means after the 40 meter, dash.. or else you won’t make it in the long run

Concept's okay. I've seen similar, and the syntax is kinda flawed, which is just something I'm weird about in my preferences 7/10

Funerals are expensive, so it’s a shame that relatives gotta view ur death then
But your family will see cold, hard cash.. cuz they’ll be watching u as the rigamortis sets in

This is an okay closer, I think the wording could've been a bit smoother. 7/10


53/70 - 75.7%


Overall this was a really close battle, and I can see it going either way based on who's voting. I think the one thing that really made the difference in my opinion was wording. Cash had some subtleties that were just more aggressive, and personally, I always consider how the full line is interpreted on both sides of the wordplay. I think letterman had at least two small hiccups that normally wouldn't make a difference in the outcome of a battle, but when a battle is this close, I really have to nitpick over the details to choose a side.

That being said, tua and compubox were both fire and lotb for me. Hats off to both for a great showing

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The first two punches were nice. Very well-worded personals. Everything else was just alright but no real misses to me.

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The Israelite line was pretty good. The wording of the 'make it in the long run' bar made it nice to me. And the 'cold, hard cash' line was a decent nameplay to me. But the 'incest' line and the 'deceit' line were misses for me. Everything else was alright.

Letterman had more hits that connected hard, but he had more misses than Cashius as well. And of the bars that were just alright, I liked Cash's better. So I'm edging this one to Cashius.

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t was like a contest to see who’s writtens is worse, the shit got me irked...wow
Took the LLL. But HERE, you would’ve only taken one...and it would’ve been in the first round
(ok open. sets the tone for the next bar. bringing the longlived disparity to focus)
A 12 line champ match after 2 rounds?! This should be nothing but obvious, brethren
Compared to NBL that’s a JV league...So, why the FUCK would we call you a Letterman
(nice considering the open)
Shoot every thread of your shirt ‘til you dead or you hurt...you leavin’ this world open
When I ‘bust at the seams, you getting stretched’...like every piece of your girls clothing
(pretty good. predictable but well done.)
Forensics in awe of my knife work...never seen so much amplified neck squirt
I’ll have the cops analyzing Letters Flow...WITHOUT their handwriting expert
(like this)
Multiple guns to ya squad. You wanna hold-heat-like-Cash?...go see the draft
Tua come out the pocket and cause injury concerns...then your whole team’ll pass
( ok)
Brother spends thousands on caucasian pussy...but puts on an act where he’s mad tough
Wheel of Fortune...’Letter’ll flip for this White bitch’ ‘til this Black Square is Bankrupt
(for complexitys sake ..this is really good. whats cringey is the black square part. imagine being some ginger dude in plaid saying that to an audience. still good tho)
You left NC and took RB’s title. But in the NBL...you can’t recover your best days
You’re Gronk...claimed a fake belt, then came back to the league to do nothing but catch fades
(YUK. catch fades)

Beam on the gun. It’ll prove I aint messing w/ this faggot
It’s like sending a text thru MMS - you’ll get the message with the attachment
(i fw this heavy. very slick. reminds me of my shit at RB down to the - shit)
Ur an easy kill. Eagle out.. I’ll have you dead without the effort
& everyone will see that he Israelite, once this bitch gets led out the desert
(wp mad played but the tie in was masterful and very much unique. quotable for sure)
U come from a long line of incest. That’s why imma let the tool lift, scrap
I’ll run in & raise a couple in your home.. but your family should already be used to that
(niiice)
We both got entertaining bars, but urs are lies. He could never be me
Cuz I keep the building suspenseful.. & this fraud only keeps them on the edge of deceit
(nahhhh. predictable and underwheling)
U thrive off easy wins. So when it comes to being number one, you not
Cuz I’ve checked your stats, & you’ve never had to count on punches with the compubox
(fire.)
1st I’ll shoot your bitch.. & if you stick around then you get the chrome, son
So that means after the 40 meter, dash.. or else you won’t make it in the long run
(hmm ok pretty good)
Funerals are expensive, so it’s a shame that relatives gotta view ur death then
But your family will see cold, hard cash.. cuz they’ll be watching u as the rigamortis sets
(dated concept. not on him but just the rigamortis angle. seemed lazy in comparison to the rest of your verse)

very good battle. hold up

MAN this is the closest battle ive read in a long time. Ima go w. Letterman for the following reasons.

- although cashius was more consistent, (slightly . 1 less miss. ) i think lettermans best bars were a step ahead of his. IMO. they resonated more.

i got letterman by teh slightest margin known to man

/v Letterman

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Old 04-26-2020, 09:38 AM   #11
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Yeah I am going against the grain here. I felt Cashius was consistent with jabs throughout but I felt letterman bar one miss an a bar I wasn't keen on he really had haymakers throughout. I felt the opener was fire, the incest bar was decent and compubox once.i clicked was solid. Closer was meh hate cash name.flips generally and wasn't overly keen on the 40 dash bar. Cash only misses for me were sadly just me not getting the references. It's a shame because this really was the slightest of margins and if those bars had not been misses due to my lack of knowledge he might have popped.this but just on the bars that hit for me letterman's were definitely more hard hitting.

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Cash:
First two were cool, but I've seen the angles @ RB. Opener was decent then next i liked a lil better but was a bit telegraphed. Wording ok here. Bust at Seams wasn't too much a fan off. Tua line was cool (had the idea myself lol) Handwriting was cool visual line, liked it. Didn't fk w/ the Wheel of Fortune line. It was creative idea but some reason I didn't think feel how you did it. Closer was good/worded ok. Standouts: Gronk, Handwriting Flow, Tua.

Letter:
Opener was cool, liked the execution here just straight at him nothing crazy tho. Israelite I've seen the led in desert seems familiar but made it better overall concept if that helped greatly for an otherwise old wp. Incest line was alright not bad a little long concept. Didn't like deceit. Compubox was dope. 40 Meter a bang hit. Closer was played to me/ not worded or flipped great either. Nice try tho.
Compubox, 40 Meter were heaters from Lett.

Mad close & hard to judge here. Let had two heaters but at least two outright misses to me.....Cash had more consistency somewhat. Need to re-read. Think I'm going w/ Cash bc the misses weren't quite as bland to me.
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