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Old 04-21-2016, 04:14 AM   #1
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let's say for 8 weeks, just to simplify (or 16 if you're feeling a bit more bored/ambitious). how would you break it down? would you do it chronologically, or thematically? what artists/albums would you definitely include?
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I feel like I'd break it down regionally: east, west, south, Midwest/north for 4 weeks a piece. West would be NWA/Cube and Dre solo, Snoop, Pac, and like Blackalicious or something to spice it up. East would be Biggie, Nas/Jay together, Blackstar and Wu Tang.

South and Midwest would be harder. Outkast, Scarface and idk what else for South. Would have to think about Midwest/north a bit too, this is all off the top while I'm sitting here taking a shit.
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You have to start no later than 1986 with Rakim to provide the proper backdrop. Once you're actually into the 1990s, it's not nearly as important to fuss over whether you pick "Mo' Money Mo' Problems" or "Victory" or "Hypnotize" to showcase the world of glossy late-1990s rap, for instance.

But if you want a textbook for the class, Shea Serrano's The Rap Year Book would be a place to start.
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it's tough, cuz they had two great albums in 90 and 91, but their definitive album is from the 80s. I'm not trying to make a comprehensive history of the genre so much as like an intro level 90s hip hop class, nah mean.
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South and Midwest would be harder. Outkast, Scarface and idk what else for South. Would have to think about Midwest/north a bit too, this is all off the top while I'm sitting here taking a shit.
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You have to start no later than 1986 with Rakim to provide the proper backdrop. Once you're actually into the 1990s, it's not nearly as important to fuss over whether you pick "Mo' Money Mo' Problems" or "Victory" or "Hypnotize" to showcase the world of glossy late-1990s rap, for instance.

But if you want a textbook for the class, Shea Serrano's The Rap Year Book would be a place to start.
that book looks dope, definitely gonna buy it.

yeah the context that the 80s provides is hard to get around, especially if its a holistic approach that incorporates its derivation from and influence on American culture, the political climate etc. I figured more like if you wanted to take an elective music class and keeping it to 1990-1999.
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Ugk, mystikal, project Pat trick daddy bigtymers etc.

What about producers?
producers would have to be a separate class, unless we want to get really into the nitty gritty and break it down to individual classes. I'll probably do that tomorrow lol
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NWA's most influential album also came out in 89
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I made a graphic for @Malachi (RIP?) that separated things into genre studies. In eight weeks, I would go with four weeks on the evolution of mainstream rap and four weeks on the more technical stuff —how sampling changed, how rhyme schemes and complexity levels grew — and examining the most influential artists who didn't hit it big.
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I feel like it's impossible to learn the shit if u missed it initially

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I missed the tribe train

Wen Phife died the other day I went an grabbed low end theory

Couldn't dig it.....too old school....

But I listen to 90s hip hop daily.....that I grew up with

Imo u have to teach it chronologically just so that they can understand the origination and evolution

But having reached a certain level of Skillset based on evolution I think it can be hard to look back without comparison to now and truly appreciate the level of skill for that time frame

Teach sum shit about that yaheardme
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let's say for 8 weeks, just to simplify (or 16 if you're feeling a bit more bored/ambitious). how would you break it down? would you do it chronologically, or thematically? what artists/albums would you definitely include?
I feel like going East/West/South/Midwest might be tough to really represent the evolution of hip hop. Each region has shined at a certain time for a certain reason, and it might make more sense to have the class go chronologically, or at least by era.

That being said, you can't have a course on southern hip hop without including No Limit and Cash Money. Plus you'd probably need to include UGK and Trick Daddy & Slip N' Slide, and definitely Swisha House for bringing southern music back into the spotlight in '04, and then Jeezy and Tip for running with it from there.

With the Midwest you have Bone Thugs, Common, Eminem & Royce & D12, Nelly & St. Lunatics, all of RhymeSayers, Twista, Lupe, and then you could spend at least a day or two on the new wave of teenage murderers from Chicago (Chief Keef, Lil Durk, Lil Bibby, etc).
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