Sorry uh-oh

[Destroyer]

Hahaha that “alpha/beta” shit is only championed by beta males, trust me

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by veritas

This ties into your “people who disagree with me should not exist” ideology nicely. Cool Jude.

Nah I was just making a jokie

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Ghost1

I don't even remember what we used to talk about on this site at this point honestly lol

Text rap battles.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Nah I was just making a jokie

Bruh real talk I thought you were serious my bad Jude

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Hahaha that “alpha/beta” shit is only championed by beta males, trust me

Don’t tell the alpha males

[boof]

Originally Posted by veritas

I like him. He is witty and intelligent. He is articulate and logical. He also has a good sense of humor and can admit when he is wrong.

What’s the problem?

he stands at a podium and chooses young confused audience members to ask questions they're emotionally invested in and then out's them to the rest of the audience with statistics that have no real life variable & passes it off as viral lib ownage material

he has no real world perspective, only numbers

[veritas]

Originally Posted by boof

he stands at a podium and chooses young confused audience members to ask questions they're emotionally invested in and then out's them to the rest of the audience with statistics that have no real life variable & passes it off as viral lib ownage material

he has no real world perspective, only numbers

he stands at a podium and answers questions that people who chose to be there come and ask him out of their own free will you mean?

yes?

[Big Bolo]

And here I thought this thread was going to be about Jacksons' QB rating of 0% in the second half and at the end the whole crowd chanting for flacco....turned out much worse...

[uh-oh]

first half* and word i thought the same. he had like 6 passing yards and was like 2 for 9 halfway into the 4th quarter.

once it became garbage time the chargers let him pad his stats tho

embarrassing

[Big Bolo]

What kind of city doesn't applaud hard work and a starter that got you to the playoffs, fucking cry baby sore losers...raven fans should just be called Lars & company...

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by veritas

he stands at a podium and answers questions that people who chose to be there come and ask him out of their own free will you mean?

yes?

To be fair, haven't seen much of his body of work, but that and the 'change my mind' guy seem to rely on baiting the right people who fit the 'entitled educated snowflake' bill for views. Entertainment for the right people, but not doing anything to help discourse in the country

But again, haven't seen much from him

[GUDELJ]

Ben Shapiro is the man

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Sharp

To be fair, haven't seen much of his body of work, but that and the 'change my mind' guy seem to rely on baiting the right people who fit the 'entitled educated snowflake' bill for views. Entertainment for the right people, but not doing anything to help discourse in the country

But again, haven't seen much from him

I am having a hard time with the idea that people who choose to attend his shows and choose to step up to the mic to challenge him and ask him questions are somehow blameless in them getting dunked on? Help me out.

[GUDELJ]

@Sharp you’re a gender studies professor aren’t you?

[uh-oh]

i think theyre just saying its unimpressive/overblown because the people he's smashing aren't equipped to battle the viewpoints they're presenting

im just trying to figure out if shapiro is ducking someone who could debate those viewpoints?

everything i see is these right leaning intellectuals (ugh, can't think of a better term) are always open to debate though, but no one ever really steps to them, and when they do they get eviscerated as well because its always an argument stemming from emotion instead of logic

but maybe im just missing it? booth and others put me on yo

[veritas]

Shapiro has Sam Harris on his podcast. It’s on youtube. Shapiro was very open minded and logical. Like I said.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by veritas

I am having a hard time with the idea that people who choose to attend his shows and choose to step up to the mic to challenge him and ask him questions are somehow blameless in them getting dunked on? Help me out.

I'm not saying they're blameless. If anything, they're props, and I hope their experience makes them think about issues more objectively. Just echoing boof in that what I've seen isn't really compelling as anything other than political entertainment. I like seeing myopic stances on issues fact checked as much as anyone else with glasses, but I think what I've seen was just geared toward a certain audience in such a way where it is good for getting views, but is a problematic way to talk issues

Again, haven't seen much. Don't really care for Sam Harris either, but they both seem smart enough to have a real conversation. I see both of them as kind of pandering to a certain audience's desire to feel smart for believing what they belive

But, that's in my limited experience

Originally Posted by GUDELJ

@Sharp you’re a gender studies professor aren’t you?

I honestly can't figure out what you're getting at here. Should I call you a faggot?

[uh-oh]

sam harris isn't a lefty tho? after googling i see he's a liberal.

i think i fall victim to the same nonsense grouping of people others do. i know he's anti-islam and has other views the far left find ridiculous, so maybe since he isn't a FAR LEFT lunatic, i just assumed he was centrist. like how i see jordan peterson as a left leaning centrist, but since he is pro free speech the left sees him as a white supremacist lmao

[Sharp]

Harris' defining stances are all on religion (specifically that it's bad) iirc. I read half of his End of Faith book but didn't really feel like continuing. Ironically remember it being preachy lol

[~RustyGunZ~]

What if Ben Shapiros debates don’t seem compelling because left views aren’t defendable against logic, and it’s not just that he preys on weak leftist?

I’ve never seen someone analyze a moment of his and defend what wasn’t defended well.