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Old 07-13-2015, 10:01 AM   #21
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Another thing I never understood about a certain type of Christian. If the point is to spread God's message to people, why do it in a way that alienates the majority of people from ever being open minded to your point? Is the point really to convince people, or do you just enjoy yelling at people to repent like a crazy person?
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Old 07-14-2015, 08:36 AM   #24
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Another thing I never understood about a certain type of Christian. If the point is to spread God's message to people, why do it in a way that alienates the majority of people from ever being open minded to your point? Is the point really to convince people, or do you just enjoy yelling at people to repent like a crazy person?

This is a good question, and a tricky question, but one still with an answer. You never want to conform the Word to the world unless you can absolutely help it. These mega-church preachers who only smile and talk about God loves you they may put butts in the seat, but they are confirming the Word to the world.

Where as real preaching should convict a man to confirm to the world.

I choose this second path because as the Word says

2 Corinthians 4
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



now,

remember that aside from this, it doesnt really matter how a preacher comes at you, if you are blinded you aint receiving it. Also, I full well realize that you can catch more flies with honey, but at the root of it, no man wants to hear about how he is destined to eternal death. so it doesnt matter how the preacher (if he is really a preacher, who must preach the whole word) comes at him.....

This is why you may think that I am yelling, or maybe yelling bothers you.

let me ask you something....growing up, did you ever yell at anyone? did you ever yell at any one you loved?
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Yes. But that sort of aggressive call to account only works when a relationship has been established. When you're yelling at people who you don't know, haven't met, and don't have any common understanding with, you just come off as a crazy person.

You might say it doesn't matter, but what do the results say. Even when you look at the example set by your favorite role model, Jesus, that's not the way he did things. You might bring up his treatment of the tax collectors in the temple, but I would argue his actions were in defense of the holy place. You never saw Jesus approaching sinners with judgement and condemnation. That was more John the Baptists style. And looking at their ministries... which would you say was more effective?
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Where as real preaching should convict a man to confirm to the world.
If I think you're crazy you're not convicting me of anything.

Good luck with the whole divine insanity thing.
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Ironically Fraze is a better and more understanding Christian than Kosmosis
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If I think you're crazy you're not convicting me of anything.

Good luck with the whole divine insanity thing.

I had a patient who told me......the schizophrenic tries to conform the world to himself.....the sane man tries to conform him self to the world.....so tell me who is really crazy.


So....have you ever yelled at anyone you loved fraze?
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Yes. But that sort of aggressive call to account only works when a relationship has been established. When you're yelling at people who you don't know, haven't met, and don't have any common understanding with, you just come off as a crazy person.
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This is a good question, and a tricky question, but one still with an answer. You never want to conform the Word to the world unless you can absolutely help it. These mega-church preachers who only smile and talk about God loves you they may put butts in the seat, but they are confirming the Word to the world.

Where as real preaching should convict a man to confirm to the world.

I choose this second path because as the Word says

2 Corinthians 4
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



now,

remember that aside from this, it doesnt really matter how a preacher comes at you, if you are blinded you aint receiving it. Also, I full well realize that you can catch more flies with honey, but at the root of it, no man wants to hear about how he is destined to eternal death. so it doesnt matter how the preacher (if he is really a preacher, who must preach the whole word) comes at him.....

This is why you may think that I am yelling, or maybe yelling bothers you.

let me ask you something....growing up, did you ever yell at anyone? did you ever yell at any one you loved?
This is the bullshit rhetoric Christians use to justify being bigoted assholes.

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you just spoke in a way which makes your judgment of them seem contradictory.
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PROVERBS 3:7 "Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil. "


Who told you that you were wise? Why doest thou act it? Know ye not that you are only your real self when you art by thouself? Know ye not that God is not mocked, and sees all that of which you do when you are alone? Vile, detestable, corruptible things?

Yet you consider yourself wise, smarter than God. So wise that you do not need him on your journey. If you judge another by yourself you are a fool.

your intelligence is nothing. If life so chose, it could hit you in a way that all of your wordy hyperbole man poems would not be able to help you. If life so chose, it could hit you in a way that all your Jordan's and kush could not help you.

I pray that thou hearkens unto this message. Seek true Wisdom. Realize the difference. Acknowledge that you are dirt, and yet no longer wish to be a dirt person......

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This is still happening huh

Def a low point in ur boarding career here jimbo
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This is the world we live in. The truth. You say you are free? You say you are enlightened? How!? Wake up.

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you only hurt yourself. Your boat will become your tomb. Repent. You mock God. All of this is being recorded. You use attacks to hide, but you cannot hide.

You will not escape the day of Reckoning.

Repent.
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7-23-2015 6 13 am

Let us talk today of Hell.

first of all one must realize that God is love. And because God is love that means that God will kill you.

how so you say? easy. Consider: If you happened upon a man hurting your dog, would you not hurt him? surely, and what force would compel you to do so? Aye, your love for your dog.

Consider: say you come home early from work and find your house has been broken into and your wife is being raped, would you not kill the man guilty of this? surely, and what force would compel you to do so? aye, your love for your wife.

it is therefore most logically to say that love will kill for the preservation of itself. this is irrefuteable.

nextly...

understand that God is fair. that he is just.

Justice is harming the bad to protect the good, to balance the scales back. Imagine if you heard of a man who viciously raped a six year old girl, then put her alive into a garbage bag in a hole and buried her alive....and he gets caught. is the electric chair truly justice for this girls family? does this man not need to suffer and to feel even a taste of the pain that he has inflicted on the innocent? this is justice.

this world is wicked. it preserves the evil, and punishes the good.

so we see above the refutation that if God was good and just he would not send people to hell.

now then: God had to punish lucifer and his army of angels. They invaded the third Heaven, brought beef and attempted to corrupt it and rule it. they of course lost. God had to right the scales. They attempted to invade eternity's homebase, it was only fair that God eternally separate them. A spirt cannot die, so a grave is an impossible and meaningless punishment, but a spirit can be chained and separated...thus Hell.


I said all that to say this, and this is the truth of the matter, the hard and painful truth. God does not wish any to perish, and he sends no one to hell. Rather, we as busted humans choose to go to hell by rejecting the path of Heaven and purposefully following the path to hell.

Repent. Wake up.

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