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10-20-2019, 01:59 PM | #41 |
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you view healthcare as a right. i don't. i view your views as infringing on peoples unalienable rights.
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how is hoarding unlimited amounts of money from gaming the system an unalienable right and having access to medicine not? do you have family that take medication? |
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and how is buying a patent for a drug you didn't create and jacking up it's price so people can't afford it not infringing on the rights of people to literally just live?
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Bernie wouldn't win...democrats really don't have a candidate who stands a chance of winning, unfortunately... trump wins 2020 imo.
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He has the most donors of any candidate this year, including Trump. He raised the most money in this most recent quarter out of any Dem candidate. He has the most money on hand out of any Dem candidate. He has the most volunteers of any candidate, including Trump. This is while polling at 18% in the primary. Clearly if he won the nomination, these numbers would all go up. Half of the country wants to defeat Trump, all blue support would have to go to him. He's beating Trump in almost every head to head poll, he outperforms every other dem candidate vs Trump. He's gone on fox news and ripped into Trump personally, talked about fighting the military industrial complex and big pharma, and received a standing ovation. He even beats Trump in right-wing polls, including fox news. He's still a registered independent, so clearly he can pull independent voters. Trump literally has no dirt on him as opposed to everyone else because Bernie doesn't lie about shit. He's corruption free. I think he has by far the best shot to win, and I think it's a pretty good one. People in the rust belt who expected manufacturing jobs to come back and got jack squat are going to be open to an alternative. Farmers who have experienced Trumps terrible trade policy(& immigration policy) will be open to an alternative.
But I definitely think Trump has a good chance of winning because he's created such a clusterfuck of scandals and the Dem establishment is so terrible at handling it that nobody really understands what's going on. |
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my sisters a goofball and on all the make believe anxiety/depression meds. she has top tier health insurance through her medical field job (that she's ridiculously overpaid for) though. but yea you aren't viewing what i'm saying correctly. im not worried about the rights of pharmaceutical companies, i'm worried about the rights of the individual. i am against taxing YOU to pay for my dads pills. it infringes on your rights, it is basically theft under the threat of violence.
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polls are nonsense.
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bro, she won the popular vote by 3 mill. i know you understand that.
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10-22-2019, 11:15 AM | #51 |
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"The government and all our politicians are bought and they run government for their own interests so I say we give them more of our money via taxes and more control over daily life via corporate regulations"
That's gonna be a yikes from me
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the only new tax would be on healthcare which replaces the current, much more costly out of pocket system. also i obviously support the one guy that's not bought |
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tbc that first sentence still doesn't mean anything. we tried, we failed. 2012's timber sycamore operation's entire objective was to arm rebel groups to overthrow assad. tbc there was no genocide perpetrated by assad. there were protests against a police state. we took that social momentum and instead filled the country with foreign rebel groups. for a few months syrians welcomed them thinking they were there to help, but soon after they murdered(with our weapons), raped, kidnapped, looted, sold food back to locals at elevated prices, and that's been the story for 7 years. locals are more afraid of the groups we back than the actual syrian army. we(u.s., saudi, u.k, qatar, turkey, etc) made life hell for syrians. we've been backing jihadist extremists this entire time. we faked two chemical attacks to try and overthrow assad. russia's known this the entire time, as has the rest of the world(which was our actual problem with overthrowing assad). the situation is 1,000x more complex than what you just surmised. cia trained rebel groups, we gave arms to groups we knew had connections to al qaeda, the free syrian army are actual extremists, we funded/branded/armed them, bunch of our weapons ended up sold on the black market directly to groups like isis & isil, who have been funded by our ally saudi arabia. it's a proxy war to destabilize syria to overthrow assad that failed. american troops have been illegally occupying syrian oil fields making it impossible for the rest of the country to obtain oil. we've imposed some of the strictest sanctions in the world on syria, and the effects have only hurt syrian people, not assad or his administration at all. it's a failed regime change, to a t.
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Imagine thinking Bernie Sanders is not bought. He made 400k in book royalties in 2018 alone. I think by definition that means bought. "Everybody else's person is bought except my guy." 600k summer home to go along with his other two properties. That's gonna be a yikes from me.
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Fucc with bladed thesis...
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10-22-2019, 12:32 PM | #56 |
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With Bernie we gon get free college fam. Go back and steal the 23 y/o hotties from college noobs. Only competition would be sports players and the 1%-5% with lotta swag. Light workkk go sanders imo. He accelerates our only life prerogative which is procreation however with LEV we may live to see 500 years old imho (offhand chance)
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But imagine thinking a guy that made 400k off of a best-selling book is "bought". By who? His publisher lol? Do you not know how much the rest of Congress takes from outside influence? How familiar are you with how this works? Because it seems like very little from that statement. It's so crazy to me that people still don't understand the outrageous difference between Bernie and the rest. Like, that's WHY he has the most donations. We know his track record. The receipts all exist. Bernie's been in elected office for 30 years. His tax returns show before his best-selling book, his family was consistently bringing in under 300k. Bernie's salary is 175k, they also receive social security. 175k x 30 years = $5.25M in salary alone. It wasn't always 175k, but the point is his total networth after 30 years is 2.5 million. Including recent best sellers. If you don't know Bernie is as financially modest as a congressperson gets, and all of congress knows that, you're a goofball. He shops at Kohls, almost always flies coach, he drives a prius, like bro the proof is in the pudding. Go look at his "properties". One is the one he's had for 30 years, one is the one he has in D.C. because when you work in D.C. you work there a lot. Obviously. 99% of congress has a second home in D.C. Then they recently sold an old family property and used the money to buy a new family property. That's the whole story. Most congress members take in millions of dollars a year from corporations, superpac's and lobbyists. At the very least hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you didn't know, Bernie doesn't take Superpac or Corporate donations. This is the only thing that really matters in regards to succumbing to outside influence. This is why we know he has the best chance of actually getting things done. If you didn't know, some other congresspeople that have been around as long as Bernie are worth 25M, 45M, etc. You can look at opensecrets.org for information on who takes money from where. But ultimately, even as a 1%'er now, we support Bernie because of his long consistent track record of fighting for the right shit no matter what. It's clear as day. If you aren't convinced, literally just go watch a few videos of him from any decade on youtube. There is no other candidate like Bernie. Again, that's why we support him. |
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It's not 'everybody is bad but my guy' its 'everybody is bad but this guy so that's why he's my guy'
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That was the job applied for, being busier or slower effects nothing in terms of the employee. If that comes with an alteration to the contract that was agreed with the employee, okay. The dollar amount changes nothing. Don’t like the job, you can go get employed elsewhere How nice. Well, that’s a bias on your part. Also, if the bonus was stipulated in the contract, it was agreed upon by the employee. I give my employees great Christmas bonuses with no contractual obligation because I enjoy giving gifts. And it’s a gift so I dictate the amount, not the employee. Wait, you’re done? I thought you had a point. You’re an employee. Why would you have a say in a company who’s start up capital you did not provide, who’s risk you didn’t not take on your shoulders, in which you had no vested interest. If the reverse happens and the business dies out and goes bankrupt, would the employee have to pay to keep the business afloat out of their own pockets? Would the employee be at risk of going bankrupt strictly due to that specific business closing? The answer is no. The employee has no risk or vested interest in the business. They have a contractual agreement for employment. Have you ever started a business or run a business? Quote:
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We need all kinds of drugs for all kinds of sicknesses, illness, birth defects and mysteries of the human body will still don’t understand. And? Possibly. Cancer won’t cure itself. Citation. There is but I won’t spoil that one for you. Quote:
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So they can cure cancer? Yeah, I’ll have some of that with a side order of alzheimers cure please. History is your friend. I already knew assholes existed. Did you just figure this out? Placate to emotions. Or economics. Or supply and demand. I’m noticing there’s a lot you don’t understand. Doesn’t stop you from googling a phrase and thinking your twenty minutes internet research means you’re knowledgeable on the subject. I guess we all have our blindspots. Yeah, things aren’t perfect. Nobody said they were. The many reasons I’ve already listed show this statement is in fact not objective. Quote:
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Who spend upwards of $200m of their own money to finance the research and development of the drugs we hope cure cancer. And? Our tax laws suck and there are loopholes that need to be plugged. It’s their company, they can’t even own stock? Damn, you are a hard one. Now they can’t buy anything either? Shit, bruh. Haha, there middle class and lower class economy? You don’t know what the words you’re putting together mean, do you? Jesus christ. Come on, cure cancer, boys! This is incorrect. https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-a...story-3306189? For what reason? Hint: https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/yes-t...afford-a-home/ Everyone? Generalizations are not your friend. Also, some people might live paycheck to paycheck for different reasons. Some people have bad financial habits. Some people buy fast food instead of cooking at home. Some people want design brands while I couldn’t care less. Some people rent instead of buy homes. Some people get into credit card debt early. Some people are just dumb. This guy. Entirely? Bernie gets included in that. Cue the x-files theme. Quote:
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You just said get them out. They’re the same people. This is your Ahha moment. Oprah would be so proud. They’re the same people. Wow, it’s like you have no idea what you’re talking about. Where have I seen that before? Shh, he’s becoming self aware and doesn’t see it. Quote:
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No it doesn’t. Do you understand how taxes work and that they come out of the pocket? Haha, this statement after the last statement is funny. Do you see why? Citation. That’s not what the plan calls for. Have you read it? Jesus. Cancel the We Cured Cancer party. NASA rejoices. Yikes. Quote:
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Think about what you said here. Can you see the problem? Placate to emotions. Consider that maybe the reason some people “can’t see it” is because the way you see it and are presenting it might not be factual. Maybe? Quote:
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Freedom of not dying? Freedom? Jesus. Wait, what happened to the other 116 billion? It’s almost like these numbers are being pulled out of your ass from dramatic effect. Think on that. Don’t respond. Self reflect. If you need to lean on dramatic effect to get your point across and pull numbers out of your ass to discuss a topic as sensitive as this, maybe you’re not cut out for the discussion because you cannot separate yourself from your emotions to discuss the topic at hand. Quote:
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Again, irrelevant in a discussion of him having a chance against Trump. Again, irrelevant. Again, irrelevent against Trump almost a year from the election when he hasn’t even won the nomination yet. “Clearly” is a generalization and assumption. Both not good when making an authoritative statement. Assumption. If that was true, he wouldn’t be president. Assumption. Your previous statement concerning polls makes this assertion ironic but it’s also irrelevant. The nomination isn’t his yet so to assume the polls remain the same is not how this works. Irrelevant to him beating Trump, comparing him to other candidates. Quote:
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Dirt, true. Trump has Bernie’s voting record and own policies to reference. Do you understand how this works? You don’t know this. It is literally impossible to know this. Again, think on this. Don’t respond. Self reflect. How can you possibly making such a sweeping statement about somebody’s character that is literally impossible to know? This is bias. That’s okay. We’re all biased. This is bias. You don’t know this. It is literally impossible to know this. Again, this on this. Don’t respond. Self reflect. How can you make such a sweeping statement about something you have no clue about? You aren’t in all his meetings, you aren’t in all his phone calls. There is no way for you to know this. Personal assumption. And that’s okay. Personal belief. You’re free to share. And you’re in his campaign so of course you think he’s got a good shot. I would hope so. Who enjoys wasting their time? Quote:
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