What did David Llama do?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Diode

the general timeline here:

i became admin on b-boys and banned lama. he started bw. lithix opened pr. i left b-boys (and so did everyone) and took over PR. lama quit bw and gave it to me. i ran both for a bit. lama decided he wanted the site back, but i was petty, so he instead took an old backup of bw and opened netcees v1.

netcees v1 had a good run but he openly abandoned it. eventually the domain went down, followed by the site, which seth and GOW knew was coming so they archived what they could and put it on netcees v2 which was really a clone of aob.

netcees v2 ran for a while through the hands of gow, then namix, then briefly seth, who then worked with namix to transition it to me. at the same time this was happening the netcess.co domain got sniped so i created netcees.org, moved the site over, and netcees v3 was born.

database crashed like 2 or 3 years ago and we lost a few months of stuff. pr database corrupted. i lost the pr domain to a sniper when trying to move hosts. i still own the pr database, the bw database and domain, and some other stuff.

and here we are with upn coming back to activity due to quarantine.

the end.

A little off

NC was down by the time I came back. Actually wasn’t even involved directly with AOB for awhile. And Namix never owned it and gow “couldn’t figure out” the hosting stuff after he locked me out of it all. I paid the bill literally the entire time namix “owned” it. Glad it went the way it did and you got it. Would’ve ended up being an RB redirect.

I did not realize the pr domain got snagged. That sucks.

[Headless Verseman]

whatever happened to project rhyme?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Headless Verseman

whatever happened to project rhyme?

That’s what the PR in Diodes post is referring to.

[Headless Verseman]

So he has the actual databass just not the domain. But he could put up .net, .org, etc. Interesting. I always liked that site

[~RustyGunZ~]

Also a big piece of the timeline which isn’t covered by diodes post that’s a big factor in why this new style isn’t what these old heads do is that NC 1 was the first true refuge for long bar heads and marked the complete death of that style by anyone considered good. Nobody Smiling and RapsElite were the stepping stones to NC v1 for longbar heads which is probably the BW/PR point of diodes timeline. Beyond, Orc, Dominate and others. Blue had always flirted with shortbar but was also one to the elites in longbar. Myself and some others never were part of the timeline attached to the “legends” a lot of people refer to who are popping up right now.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Headless Verseman

So he has the actual databass just not the domain. But he could put up .net, .org, etc. Interesting. I always liked that site

Yeah, which is basically what happened here. Netcees.com was up for thousands of dollars so I bought .co

By the time it got to diode I had long since transferred rights to that over and it was a whole thing so diode just bought .org

I had .net redirect here at one point but didn’t bother paying for it again

[Orc]

Originally Posted by Da Brayn Lord

Also a big piece of the timeline which isn’t covered by diodes post that’s a big factor in why this new style isn’t what these old heads do is that NC 1 was the first true refuge for long bar heads and marked the complete death of that style by anyone considered good. Nobody Smiling and RapsElite were the stepping stones to NC v1 for longbar heads which is probably the BW/PR point of diodes timeline. Beyond, Orc, Dominate and others. Blue had always flirted with shortbar but was also one to the elites in longbar. Myself and some others never were part of the timeline attached to the “legends” a lot of people refer to who are popping up right now.

I was already doing short bar on Illesty and RM for a few years before NC1, that’s where I met Hush & murda sho etc. I stopped long bar pretty early bro. I wasn’t good at all back then, would say literally every body else who ever came here was better than me at that stuff

[serge T]

UPN we mostly added eachother on FB and ditched the board. This tourney came from Noetic suggesting it there. Lama is the man for his documenting everything.

[Headless Verseman]

still can't believe Janitor sold rm, fuckin hillbilly.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by ORC

I was already doing short bar on Illesty and RM for a few years before NC1, that’s where I met Hush & murda sho etc. I stopped long bar pretty early bro. I wasn’t good at all back then, would say literally every body else who ever came here was better than me at that stuff

Meant more how the styles weren’t centered in coming from there

Illesty is a good one too. I never battled at RW always assumed it was LB but both that time period. It was like late 2008. I remember you inviting me there and liking it and reconnecting with sho. He and Aero were always shortbar heads on longbar sites

Mostly my point is, what’s here now isn’t 100% rooted in what these guys were doing in 2003

[Aero]

Originally Posted by ORC

I was already doing short bar on Illesty and RM for a few years before NC1, that’s where I met Hush & murda sho etc. I stopped long bar pretty early bro. I wasn’t good at all back then, would say literally every body else who ever came here was better than me at that stuff

What made you leave RW?

Aero & Dominate were kings there. You were well on your way. Did you feel you needed to reinvent yourself?

[Blue Bayou]

Damn RW. Kangaroo Danger dudes first forum

Def a King. I only vaguely remember the other guy tho....i think I remember him losing in the opening round of a newbie tourney but that's all I recall

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Blue Bayou

Damn RW. Kangaroo Danger dudes first forum

Def a King. I only vaguely remember the other guy tho....i think I remember him losing in the opening round of a newbie tourney but that's all I recall

Arro? Puerto Rican guy from Green Bay? His name means rice but he took the Z off the end cus it kept running away with its brothers and sisters when people read his verses

[Ajax]

Apparently, these are accepted terms now.... as different styles. What is short bar and long bar, as the way you guys think of them? I remember guys at Homegrown and various other sites writing verses where every line was long as hell. And rudge and Resin and myself and various others writing alternating long and short lines... etc. Everyone had their own different style.. If it was dope, it was dope.

You guys actually differentiate between line lengths as a kind of separate style?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Ajax

Apparently, these are accepted terms now.... as different styles. What is short bar and long bar, as the way you guys think of them? I remember guys at Homegrown and various other sites writing verses where every line was long as hell. And rudge and Resin and myself and various others writing alternating long and short lines... etc. Everyone had their own different style.. If it was dope, it was dope.

You guys actually differentiate between line lengths as a kind of separate style?

There was a style that was very wordplay heavy called longbar, not what some people call longbar though. It wasn’t two longer bars, it was usually 3 short-medium bars typed in one line. Was prominent on HollaFront and ItsHipHop/Shady Soldiers as well as a series of one off 3-6 month long in life sites ran by 3 different groups of admins

[john hensley]

Just wanna remind everyone of 411Hype as well aka Deon/HotDogVendorMans homesite

[The Dead Poet]

Ok, so here comes my 'cool story bro' moment.

So when I was about 15 I sort of joined a youth ministry out here in Cali. It was apart of a church that was world wide. This was right around when I first discovered bboys dot com. This youth ministry had a like a fttp type forum which was actually kind of similar to how bboys was. Anyways someone had made a "hiphop" sub in it. I went in there and started talking rap records...at the time Canibus was murdering every guest verse he was on. I started talking to someone from NY about it. I told him about a site where you can post your raps on which was bboys and he joined. That was Lama. I was not in that church shit that long and neither was he....but yea that's how that dude discovered net battles.

[NoetiC]

Originally Posted by Diode

the general timeline here:

i became admin on b-boys and banned lama. he started bw. lithix opened pr. i left b-boys (and so did everyone) and took over PR. lama quit bw and gave it to me. i ran both for a bit. lama decided he wanted the site back, but i was petty, so he instead took an old backup of bw and opened netcees v1.

netcees v1 had a good run but he openly abandoned it. eventually the domain went down, followed by the site, which seth and GOW knew was coming so they archived what they could and put it on netcees v2 which was really a clone of aob.

netcees v2 ran for a while through the hands of gow, then namix, then briefly seth, who then worked with namix to transition it to me. at the same time this was happening the netcess.co domain got sniped so i created netcees.org, moved the site over, and netcees v3 was born.

database crashed like 2 or 3 years ago and we lost a few months of stuff. pr database corrupted. i lost the pr domain to a sniper when trying to move hosts. i still own the pr database, the bw database and domain, and some other stuff.

and here we are with upn coming back to activity due to quarantine.

the end.

Respect. Thanks for keeping it going and not letting it die. i'm like that wrestling fan in that old viral video "ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT"

[Finnydot]

Textcees claiming they "invented" "longbar". Lmfao...

Real rappers been using paragraphs to write instead of lines since ever. Y'all just used it as an excuse to be less rhythmic than your no-rhythm having shitty text verses didn't have already.

[NoetiC]

i invented southpaw typing