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Old 08-08-2018, 09:32 PM   #21
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I think the way you worded it is apropos for what you meant by it.
I was looking at it more like does time itself have humanity. That’s an interesting thing to ponder.
To, inno, sort of. Like, time as we measure it certainly is a fully human construct and also is dependent on our geographical place in the universe in relation to our sun. But surely time exists outside of our own perception of it.
Don’t you think if time is infinite

We didn’t create it but simply discovered it?

Btw interesting ducking question you posed lol
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:35 PM   #22
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Also interesting to ponder the question whether time does exist outside of our perception of it. We truly have no reason to believe it does, other than it seems to follow logically. But we have no method of measuring it or even quantifying it on that level. It seems to fall into one of those things we just likely won’t ever know or understand.
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Old 08-08-2018, 09:40 PM   #23
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Don’t you think if time is infinite

We didn’t create it but simply discovered it?

Btw interesting ducking question you posed lol
Time is most certainly not infinite.

(before the google knives come out, i minored in astrophysics. it's the only math i'm good at.)
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When we going to talk about the 2nd law of thermodynamics tho
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Time is most certainly not infinite.

(before the google knives come out, i minored in astrophysics. it's the only math i'm good at.)
Elaborate good sir

This may be ignorant but has it scientifically been proven time hasn’t exist beyond our comprehension?

You saying time came into existence because of us?

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Elaborate good sir

This may be ignorant but isn’t scientifically proven time hasn’t exist beyond our comprehension?

You saying time came into existence because of us?
Time is a measurable aspect of existence. A dimension - with a finite start and end. No different than 3-dimensional space.

Though I suppose your thoughts on entropy vs. singularity and string theory vs. standard theory of relativity influence your perspective on the matter greatly.
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Entropy is what, degradation, right? And singularity would be like returning to a single point like everything folding back into itself?
I didn’t minor in astrophysics so bear with me
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Time is a measurable aspect of existence. A dimension - with a finite start and end. No different than 3-dimensional space.

Though I suppose your thoughts on entropy vs. singularity and string theory vs. standard theory of relativity influence your perspective on the matter greatly.
Where's the end? Or should I say when
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Where's the end? Or should I say when
@Diode

This is what I’m leaning towards

If time isn’t infinite then how do we know when it stops?

When humans cease to exist?

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It is also true that there exists a place so far out in the universe where the light wave carrying the information of your birth or the time of your birth has not yet reached. So right now there exists a place where you do not yet exist.
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When did time start diode?
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When did God begin?

Both answers are leaps of faith and cannot be supported by facts if you dig deep enough
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Entropy is what, degradation, right? And singularity would be like returning to a single point like everything folding back into itself?
I didn’t minor in astrophysics so bear with me
Correct.
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Correct.
folded back into itself into what?

what does the "itself" now exist in?
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Where's the end? Or should I say when
You have to stop thinking of time as a construct and more as a measure to reach the theoretical "end". Time is merely a plane of existence no different than up, down, forward, and back. When you get into string theory, you are at "present" existing in many places all at once (such is the nature of quantum physics)! Fun mindfuckery.

Under the singularity, it's when singularity is achieved.

Under entropy (aka heat death of the universe), it is when all matter ceases to produce energy/move/etc. (thermodynamic equilibrium).
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It is also true that there exists a place so far out in the universe where the light wave carrying the information of your birth or the time of your birth has not yet reached. So right now there exists a place where you do not yet exist.
There are trillions and trillions and trillions of places where this is more true than not! A mere light year is already one "year" difference from your present existence and the nearest stars (let alone galaxy) are 4.33 light years away.

We mostly don't exist :)
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