Fuck police.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by veritas

Soooo.....we should not have a military?

No, we should have armies and we should have police officers. But we need to make sure they are properly regulated and kept in check.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Certain

No, we should have armies and we should have police officers. But we need to make sure they are properly regulated and kept in check.

By not hiring any white people as policemen right?

[Destroyer]

Of course ultimately no one should

[oats]

the fact that Veritas pointed out how militarized the police are is a noteworthy troll backfire.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by quaker oats

the fact that Veritas pointed out how militarized the police are is a noteworthy troll backfire.

Wrong. That was my whole point. That all this is going to lead to militarized police and martial law. That if we can't realize that not ALL white cops are racist and want to use a badge to kill blacks then we will never have nice things.


Also....we need to remember definitions. How they differ from racism to prejudice to bias to stereotypes.

The Dallas killer was a racist. You cannot say that about any of the cops who killed the men. Fact.

It is unfortunate that some blacks are allowing these tragedies to make them worse than the very thing they are supposedly fighting for. Additionally is sad that race trumps truth and right.

Certain I am dissapointed in you right now. Yiu are better than this. Conversely look at greeds rhetoric in this thread. He is useless. A pawn. Certain you are able to think and yet choose the racial agenda....and go from a king to a pawn.

[oats]

Originally Posted by veritas

Wrong. That was my whole point. That all this is going to lead to militarized police and martial law. That if we can't realize that not ALL white cops are racist and want to use a badge to kill blacks then we will never have nice things.

I'm just going to make this part boldface and let you figure out where you went wrong. If you can't do that...........ego.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by quaker oats

I'm just going to make this part boldface and let you figure out where you went wrong. If you can't do that...........ego.

Wrong. Don't play games. That would be like me saying your analogy about complainING about fbi and police is contradictory is in itself contradictory.

[veritas]

Let me make one final point before I go to church to legitimately pray for this county.

You err if you believe ALL are like ONE. That is rasisct

The very title of this thread should be *Fuck THOSE police*

Your sense of justice is eschew. Killing cops at random is not justice. Nor is making anyone guilty before the investigation.

If we look at statistics black men make up a small percentage of the population and yet a disproportionate amount of the homicides. Conversely the percentage of white cops active with the percentage who have killed an INNOCENT black man is WAY less.

Logic in hand, explain now how we can say ALL WHITE COPS but not ALL BLACK MEN?

THIS IS THE AGENDA THAT IS BLINDING YOU. WRONG AND RIGHT. NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

Zytorg out.

[veritas]

Certain...show me you are a man of reason and logic. Concerned with what is true and good. Admit Yiu were frustrated and emotional when you made this thread and apologize. Change the title to fuck those police. Fair?

[Greed]

If we look at statistics black men make up a small percentage of the population and yet a disproportionate amount of the homicides. Conversely the percentage of white cops active with the percentage who have killed an INNOCENT black man is WAY less.

So what you are saying is, black people are a hostile breed and should be treated as such? Its that white privileged attititude that is the cause of all of this in the first place.

The dallas killer wasnt a racist and if he was a racist it was after the fact racism against his oppressors. And those cops were racist. Its like 'oh well its only cause everyone has cameras' . How many times do we have to show you they are KILLING us for you to believe it?

The badge shouldnt be a license to kill, and if it is who will hold the police to a higher standard? They don the uniform to protect us but they are afraid of the very thing they are protecting.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Greed

So what you are saying is, black people are a hostile breed and should be treated as such? Its that white privileged attititude that is the cause of all of this in the first place.

The dallas killer wasnt a racist and if he was a racist it was after the fact racism against his oppressors. And those cops were racist. Its like 'oh well its only cause everyone has cameras' . How many times do we have to show you they are KILLING us for you to believe it?

The badge shouldnt be a license to kill, and if it is who will hold the police to a higher standard? They don the uniform to protect us but they are afraid of the very thing they are protecting.

Soooo.....saying I want to kill all white people is not racist? What if a white man said he wanted to kill all black people?

This is lunacy

Edit: please see greeds mind. This is the thinkING that is the definition of hypocrisy and is the problem.

[Destroyer]

Wow veritas ignorant as fuck
They make up a proportionate amount of homicides because of how they are treated for being black, not as a cause of being black.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Wow veritas ignorant as fuck
They make up a proportionate amount of homicides because of how they are treated for being black, not as a cause of being black.

So correlation equals causation? Or do you just continue to not be smart enough to understand my words?

[oats]

not playing games, @veritas, and it is definitely contradictory of people to hate part of the government that exonerates one party and protects another when both parties have demonstrably broken the law.

that the police force has been militarized already - by the very definition of the word - is not an opinion. It's the legal reality. Don't pray for the country, V. Pray for yourself, so that you may become the change that this country needs. Otherwise..........



.............#ego.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by quaker oats

not playing games, @veritas, and it is definitely contradictory of people to hate part of the government that exonerates one party and protects another when both parties have demonstrably broken the law.

that the police force has been militarized already - by the very definition of the word - is not an opinion. It's the legal reality. Don't pray for the country, V. Pray for yourself, so that you may become the change that this country needs. Otherwise..........





.............#ego.

1. It is apples to oranges. Being upset that the fbi did not indite a politician is totally diff from saying we should kill cops as justice for a handful of cops who violated. Please promise me you see that. Trust me, your point sounded good and legit at first but upon analysis it was not legit.

2. Your point is not a point because you mistook thr premise I was making. You did this because you have an agenda which my words contradict so you jump when you think you have something. Going as far as to say that I am wrong. The military is government sanctioned protectors and killers. Just as the police. Certain was saying that all cops have racial biases and so we didn't need to have that Enobled by giving them authority to kill. So I simply said so we should do with the military? Go back to my first posts on this where I clearly said that thsee tragedies unfortunately spark the militarization of police forces which is not good. And too wake up.

[Greed]

Im not condoning his actions. I am however saying how many marches and vigils have to be had before everyone is treated equal. Stop killing us.

[veritas]

Wait....did I kill you or yall? You mean: take measures to prevent things like this happening or at least lessen it right?

Also....the statistics are clear.....can we not say stop killing yourselves? As that is what is far more common? Fair?

[Witty]

@veritas I agreed with your first statement...your second statement is irrelevant to the conversation, of course that is another problem and another discussion but they are separate issues.

[Greed]

No v, i am not blaming you in particular, although your second statement proves that the mindset of white americans is that it is unequivocally black peoples fault. You speak matter-of-factly when you dont have all the facts yourself. You argue police lives matter with black lives matter quotables, which is why people are split now. You have already chosen a life over another.

You do not know oppression and should not speak on it unless you have a solution that results in unity.

[veritas]

Originally Posted by Greed

No v, i am not blaming you in particular, although your second statement proves that the mindset of white americans is that it is unequivocally black peoples fault. You speak matter-of-factly when you dont have all the facts yourself. You argue police lives matter with black lives matter quotables, which is why people are split now. You have already chosen a life over another.

You do not know oppression and should not speak on it unless you have a solution that results in unity.

Glad that you simmered down. So no...I was just using your own type of logic against you. The stats are stats. Not an opinion. You say that *we need to stop killing yall* ok fine. But what about the fact that statistically black men kill black men at a much higher rate than anyone else. Real talk. This has nothing to do with race for me. I want star trek. The best man for the job regardless if they white black alien whatever. You are trying to spin my words but you cant. I hope you see my very clear words here about my stance and you see how wrong you are.

This ties in because one of the first steps is that white people have to be able to speak about black peoples lives. If we want things to get better.