james franco roast

[Diode]

Originally Posted by God Of War

rogen started out doing stand up since he was like 15

and the fact he has co wrote the funniest movies of the decade pretty much sums up his ability

not to mention they said most of the back and forth(roasting) during this is the end was all improve on the spot

the guys write there own shit and is good at it

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rogen's delivery is cringeworthy and hill is a lost puppy.

the best deliveries of the night went to ross, silverman (who i usually loathe), and legerro.. guess why?

THEY ARE VETERAN STAND UP COMICS

[Certain]

Originally Posted by God Of War

but mos tof em write there own shit, esp jeff ross i watched him talking bout being a roastmaster in an interview

It's probably like this: They sit in a room and brainstorm shit and determine who to give what material and how to make certain jokes better and shit like that. They work on phrasing. They work on sequencing.

These things aren't haphazardly thrown together with everyone getting bombed and staggering up to the stage to ramble and throw out some jokes.

Really, it's how everything should be done. Even at a site like this, take the tag tournament for example. You should be talking over your lines with your partner, working on how to word them most effectively and how to better spin the name plays. This netceeing stuff isn't serious enough to make that worthwhile, but it would be a big advantage to anyone who took that time.

So yes, Jeff Ross writes his own material. But he probably doesn't write all of it, and he definitely goes over it with the other writers beforehand, again, if only to let them know what he's doing. And when you're a professional comedy writer listening to another professional comedy writer read his latest material, of course you're going to say "I didn't like that line," or "You should start with that," or "That's a great idea, but you've got to add something to it."

That's just professionalism.

[God Of War]

i dont think rogan had a bad delivery

i think hill just seemed to be having a good ass time and was enjoying himself

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Certain

It's probably like this: They sit in a room and brainstorm shit and determine who to give what material and how to make certain jokes better and shit like that. They work on phrasing. They work on sequencing.

These things aren't haphazardly thrown together with everyone getting bombed and staggering up to the stage to ramble and throw out some jokes.

Really, it's how everything should be done. Even at a site like this, take the tag tournament for example. You should be talking over your lines with your partner, working on how to word them most effectively and how to better spin the name plays. This netceeing stuff isn't serious enough to make that worthwhile, but it would be a big advantage to anyone who took that time.

So yes, Jeff Ross writes his own material. But he probably doesn't write all of it, and he definitely goes over it with the other writers beforehand, again, if only to let them know what he's doing. And when you're a professional comedy writer listening to another professional comedy writer read his latest material, of course you're going to say "I didn't like that line," or "You should start with that," or "That's a great idea, but you've got to add something to it."

That's just professionalism.

thats like saying he doesnt write his own stand up routine

[Inno]

Originally Posted by Diode

* note i didn't say they can't be stand up writers. much like with rapping, some guys are amazing joke writers and terrible with delivery.

@God Of War


this tbh.


I mean no one is denying hes a great writer...but stand up is a different beast man...you honestly think he can do what jeff ross can do?...

also..alot of the jokes and improve they do works because they feed off each other..in stand up your are alone..

whats gonna happen to seth when no one is feeding him the energy he needs to say something funny?

and lets be honest...the jokes they do are for movies..none of those jokes would hold merit on a comedy stage.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by God Of War

thats like saying he doesnt write his own stand up routine

It's not, though, because his standup is his own thing. This is a scripted television show. It's very, very different. The stakes are higher, and there are more people involved.

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Innovator

@God Of War


this tbh.


I mean no one is denying hes a great writer...but stand up is a different beast man...you honestly think he can do what jeff ross can do?...

also..alot of the jokes and improve they do works because they feed off each other..in stand up your are alone..

whats gonna happen to seth when no one is feeding him the energy he needs to say something funny?

and lets be honest...the jokes they do are for movies..none of those jokes would hold merit on a comedy stage.

seemed to work great last night ot to mention he has been doing stand up since he was 13

rogen is a beast and will be a comedic legend

suck a dick haters

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Certain

It's not, though, because his standup is his own thing. This is a scripted television show. It's very, very different. The stakes are higher, and there are more people involved.

what makes u so sure it is scripted? u cant tell me fucking mike tyson didnt write his own shit or garybusey didnt write his

u need to read more on this before you talk like u know

[Inno]

Originally Posted by God Of War

what makes u so sure it is scripted? u cant tell me fucking mike tyson didnt write his own shit or garybusey didnt write his

u need to read more on this before you talk like u know

u honestly think they let mike Tyson, stevo and the situation up there...with out knowing or having some kind of premonition as to what they where gonna do?

im sure they didn't have lines and they didn't have specific shit like a movie set would have...but im dam sure they sat there and discussed things...



THATS EXACTLY WHY THEY WHERE UP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE....


so how is that not scripted?

[Certain]

I've worked on TV specials before, though nothing as big as a Comedy Central roast. Also, in the past, many of them have referenced "I told Comedy Central I wouldn't curse" or, one I saw a couple days ago from Drew Carey at the Hugh Hefner roast, "They told me I couldn't call (Osama bin Laden) a "towelhead," so let's go with "motherfucker."

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Innovator

u honestly think they let mike Tyson, stevo and the situation up there...with out knowing or having some kind of premonition as to what they where gonna do?

THATS EXACTLY WHY THEY WHERE UP THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE....


so how is that not scripted?

due i have every roast since back when hugh heffner was roasted

if they wrote for them mike tysons, steve o's, gary buseys etc would of been much better then they was.

[God Of War]

and jeff ross said all the comedians write ther own material and ther is writers there to help the non comedians if they want it he said it on a podcast

[Diode]

uhhhh.. they did write the jokes for all non-comics at these roasts. this is not conjecture.

IT IS KNOWN

google it dude.

sometimes they decide to ignore the writers and bomb (sup situation), but everyone is written for. what you get is a highly edited version of what happened on top of THAT.

[Inno]

Originally Posted by God Of War

due i have every roast since back when hugh heffner was roasted

if they wrote for them mike tysons, steve o's, gary buseys etc would of been much better then they was.

that's just it bro...their not going to do that because it makes it to obvious...how obvious would it have been if the situation actually told funny jokes...


you would of said..."he aint right that shit, its to good"


so what do they do...they play to the character....or in this case write to the character...im not saying these people are fake or anything like that...what im saying is, the people that write these people know who they are writing for..so...they write accordingly..

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Diode

uhhhh.. they did write the jokes for all non-comics at these roasts. this is not conjecture.

IT IS KNOWN

google it dude.

sometimes they decide to ignore the writers and bomb (sup situation), but everyone is written for. what you get is a highly edited version of what happened on top of THAT.

you can get the unedited versions,a nd also jeff ross has been doing them since 98 i think he would know and he said the writers are only htere if they want them. if they dont want them they dont use them and the comedians write there own material the writers is only for the cleebrity appearances who arent comedians. and thats only IF they want it. he said the shit live on radio. dude has no reason to lie

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Innovator

that's just it bro...their not going to do that because it makes it to obvious...how obvious would it have been if the situation actually told funny jokes...


you would of said..."he aint right that shit, its to good"


so what do they do...they play to the character....or in this case write to the character...im not saying these people are fake or anything like that...what im saying is, the people that write these people know who they are writing for..so...they write accordingly..

thats fucking stupid, ross has no reason to lie

[Inno]

we aint talking about actual comedians...ofcourse they write there own stuff..

but people like trump, Tyson, stevo, trump....all those people where written for.

trump

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nah man every single one of them is getting fed jokes

every single one

jeff ross included. he isnt writing 100 percent of his jokes for these. i heard him say so on a podcast on deathsquad

tony hinchcliffe is a regular writer for these, and deathsquad regular, they write for everybody

like other people have mentioned, you dont have to use the writers. 99 percent do. comedians included, even if its just taking the premise and making there own joke from it

this is all fact

i feel like im telling you guys wrestling is fake. im sorry.

but yo no one is downplaying seth rogen or jonah hill, they aint stand ups tho. they are hilarious comedic actors, rogen writes dope funny scripts, that doesnt make them a stand up comedian, improv is not stand up.

chris farley is improv

funniest dude ever probably, but hearing him try and do stand up would be weird as shit. just put a camera on him and loose him on the populace

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

nah man every single one of them is getting fed jokes

every single one

jeff ross included. he isnt writing 100 percent of his jokes for these. i heard him say so on a podcast on deathsquad

tony hinchcliffe is a regular writer for these, and deathsquad regular, they write for everybody

like other people have mentioned, you dont have to use the writers. 99 percent do. comedians included, even if its just taking the premise and making there own joke from it

this is all fact

i feel like im telling you guys wrestling is fake. im sorry.

but yo no one is downplaying seth rogen or jonah hill, they aint stand ups tho. they are hilarious comedic actors, rogen writes dope funny scripts, that doesnt make them a stand up comedian, improv is not stand up.

chris farley is improv

funniest dude ever probably, but hearing him try and do stand up would be weird as shit. just put a camera on him and loose him on the populace

prove it, because i can link u to the podcast where he says he and the other comedians all write there jokes and the writers is only ther for the celebs who need them

so prove what u say cuz i dont beleive it right now ur rawnmo'ing

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dudes like patrice o'neal didnt take jokes from anyone tho

neither did jeselnick

neither did a good amount of them honestly. the real stand ups. 99 percent is overkill lol, but the point they were making on the podcast was if they're not known for clowning people and stand up, they're probably reading jokes someone wrote for them

which makes sense

i could outrhyme all of you textually. the people would be more entertained. but i can't write punchlines at all. so its just me saying dope stuff.

seth rogen and them dudes are like that. they just say dope stuff. they aren't from the setup punch mentality