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[Objective]

I'm the worst battler on the site, sign me up.

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Certain

I prefer expensive fusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhkPSEXs1Q

one of the best bass players i've ever seen, with those tiny female hands... with Jeff Beck... just wait till it gets to her bass solo -- there is another link of them in a more private show where she goes off and its like W T F:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blp7hPFaIfU

[Certain]

You can see her nipple. Is her nipple jazz?

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Certain

You can see her nipple. Is her nipple jazz?

yeah it gets hard when she solo's. Isn't that insane?

I dunno if you can really consider that link jazz... but fusion probly?

[theMuzzl3]

This link is a far better performance (especially by her). Its like Jeff Beck is trying to have sex with her with his guitar, and then she does her bass solo and looks and him like "What, bitch", and then what he plays after that can't touch her solo because he already blew his load.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC02wGj5gPw

I could watch that bass solo over and over until I need to masturbate, lol.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

A lot of jazz is pre-written, meaning the songs have been written and performed as per the way they were lain out.

Free form jazz is similar, in the manner that musicians can use the classical bass lines, solo's and over all structure, but its a free for all --- its a jam session where its kind of like call & response. Its funny though, if someone fucks up and hits the wrong key like super loud and does a whole knew riff by mistake, than skilled musicians can go back to the riff they were on and mesh them together, as if it was on purpose.

so this was mostly pre-written? because there's no way this is free-form since there is a form and harmony that goes with it




also what is a classical bass line

[Certain]

Ron Carter, isn't he mostly famous for being on that A Tribe Called Quest song?

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

so this was mostly pre-written? because there's no way this is free-form since there is a form and harmony that goes with it

yeah, the link with Jeff Beck and Tal Wilkenfeld is pretty close to pre-written... but you can tell the difference between her solo in the small stage act vs the big crowd (it was even shorter /w the big crowd). Also, Jeff Beck does a lot of harmonics on the guitar which are hard to replicate.

I mean, I can play 1,4,5 on the keys, on any note... but when you bring feeling into the music, its a whole nother story.

To add a further reply (edit), form and harmony do go with free form jazz, it just allows the players more freedom of expression IMO. You'd have to see some really good free jazz jams to understand... my words can't say shit.

One band (whom the leader of the band, I jammed with Elvis jazz jam on tuesdays a few times) is Uberschall. Six dudes from the blueman group, and 3 drum sets set up in front of the 2 guitar & 1 bass amp (very unique set up). Watching the band live with the drummers flowing back and forth is a life changing event (if you like jazz, but you might need earplugs).

Free form doesn't mean no form. IMHO, it just means more freedom within communicating with the other musicians, within some form.

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

also what is a classical bass line

Classical bass line, I can say very little about. I never studied classical music all though I appreciate a lot of it. I'd guess that its played within a written structure, and the medium thats playing the bass has a small ability to add their own playing style to it.

A video of Evelyn Glennie explaining sound and structure, and freedom of expression... says a lot. I'll dig up the link just in case you're willing to view it, but its quite long.... maybe I'll point out the (minute:seconds) marks that you should check out.

[theMuzzl3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3V6zNER4g

basically the 1:30 mark till the 5 minute mark.

This chick lost 99% of her hearing through the ears by 9 years old, and everyone told her she couldn't be a musician. Long story short, she's now world famous and has proven several points about what sound is, how to interpret it, and how to feel & respond to it.

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

To add a further reply (edit), form and harmony do go with free form jazz, it just allows the players more freedom of expression IMO. You'd have to see some really good free jazz jams to understand... my words can't say shit.
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so free form jazz has form and harmony and by not playing on the page you are playing free jazz?

Originally Posted by Certain

Ron Carter, isn't he mostly famous for being on that A Tribe Called Quest song?

He did something else??!!?

[Certain]

I don't know. I don't care about bassists. Irrelevant instrument, generally.

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

so free form jazz has form and harmony and by not playing on the page you are playing free jazz?

***edit***

not necessarily 'not playing on the page', but giving the artist room to interpret it... but a lot of the time, there is no page. Thats the best jazz IMO.

Originally Posted by Certain

I don't know. I don't care about bassists. Irrelevant instrument, generally.

bass basically lays down the backbone of hip hop, all though its usually a synth bass... that could easily be a bass guitar or other bass instrument as well.

[Certain]

Originally Posted by theMuzzl3

I have no idea what you're talking about.

You also have no idea what you are talking about.

[Sharp]

wait

no page

but form and harmony?


and i dont know i can never really hear the bass its probably not that important

[Certain]

Originally Posted by Sharp Nine

and i dont know i can never really hear the bass its probably not that important

Preach.

[Certain]

I like violas. Why doesn't jazz have violas?

[theMuzzl3]

Originally Posted by Certain

You also have no idea what you are talking about.

^^ I never will, and I expect the same from you.


Bass is typically the most basic but most essential instrument in many genres.


*edit* -- yes, form and harmony is sustained through the musicians' brains... during free form jazz. They all pretty much know what the others are gonna play and if a solo goes off of the harmony, then they react and harmonize with it.

Originally Posted by Certain

I like violas. Why doesn't jazz have violas?

It could have violas. Its open to writing or in the case of open jams, just listening and playing. Listening is the key.

[Unfukwitable]

when does this start @Meth hoffa?

[Meth]

Within the next few days

[jilti]

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