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Diablo · 08-07-2018, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Are you asking if that's why he become an atheist?

I was more so wondering if the Catholic faith put him losing the baby down to some religious context as a punishment maybe? I don’t claim to be an expert in the Catholic faith but I know enough that if the child isn’t christened, it’s thought that the child’s soul goes to neither heaven nor hell and remains in purgatory, is that about right?

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 01:41 PM

Hmmm
My living child isn’t being baptized, if that helps answer your query

~RustyGunZ~ · 08-07-2018, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Diablo

I was more so wondering if the Catholic faith put him losing the baby down to some religious context as a punishment maybe? I don’t claim to be an expert in the Catholic faith but I know enough that if the child isn’t christened, it’s thought that the child’s soul goes to neither heaven nor hell and remains in purgatory, is that about right?

If you planned on baptizing your child, than it is assumed God would show mercy and not keep their soul in purgatory.

Catechism 1257
“Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.”

Diablo · 08-07-2018, 01:46 PM

So this could be a viewed as a punishment for Des’ refusal to baptise his seed despite his Catholic upbringing?

savage

~RustyGunZ~ · 08-07-2018, 01:49 PM

I wouldn't say so.

His unborn child would still have had the ability to have the gospel proclaimed to them and would have had the ability to accept it.

People can be baptized at any point and on free will.

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 01:50 PM

If the punishment was enacted before the crime
Which I suppose fits in with the tenets of Christianity

sral · 08-07-2018, 01:51 PM

I think Baptised and Christened are two different (though similar) things bro

If you were baptised in a Baptist church, then became Catholic, you would need to be Christened in the Catholic Church again maybe?

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 01:53 PM

Nah, christening and baptism are the same thing

~RustyGunZ~ · 08-07-2018, 01:55 PM

What Des said but also yes to your second question.

It would be insulting for me to take communion at a baptist church and the other way around.

veritas · 08-07-2018, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer

Nah, christening and baptism are the same thing

No.

~RustyGunZ~ · 08-07-2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by veritas

No.

Christening happens at Baptism

For the sake of talking to a non-christian its the same thing.

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 01:58 PM

Lmao
Ok veritas
Sorry for combining sacraments
To me, it’s all the same because it’s equally inane

sral · 08-07-2018, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Christening happens at Baptism

For the sake of talking to a non-christian its the same thing.

My wife’s Irish and her families catholic

If we said we were getting the baby baptised it wouldn’t go down wel

I know that much lol

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 01:59 PM

Catholics still call it baptism though
Like, Jesus was baptized
John the BAPTIST?
It’s not John the Christener

Amen · 08-07-2018, 02:00 PM

God forgives all, he does not punish.

The devil punishes.

I'm full on catholic and we call is baptism. Our Catholic priest called it that, as well.

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 02:00 PM

Totes like that whole Noah thing

~RustyGunZ~ · 08-07-2018, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sraL

My wife’s Irish and her families catholic

If we said we were getting the baby baptised it wouldn’t go down wel

I know that much lol

My family and my wife's are Catholic

When we said we weren't getting him baptized it didn't go down well

But not because of wording you donut

sral · 08-07-2018, 02:04 PM

lmao you prolly had donuts at your baptism

fuck you

Destroyer · 08-07-2018, 02:07 PM

Yo, if there were donuts, I might reconsider

sral · 08-07-2018, 02:08 PM

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Diablo Badgerdick Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Showdown City Posts: 2,604 Battle Record: 11-2 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 22685549	So this could be a viewed as a punishment for Des’ refusal to baptise his seed despite his Catholic upbringing? savage

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~RustyGunZ~ (ง'̀-'́)ง Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 15,852 Battle Record: 52-28 Accomplishments -50+ wins Champed -Summer Classic VIII -Netcees Battle League -BA Picture -BA TagTeam -Fight Night Cypher I -Fight Night XXXV -Key Grand Prix 2018 1/2 Rep Power: 85899403	What Des said but also yes to your second question. It would be insulting for me to take communion at a baptist church and the other way around.

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Amen As-salamu alaykum! Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 8,470 Battle Record: 19-8 Champed - 1-2 Punch League Season 6 Rep Power: 0	God forgives all, he does not punish. The devil punishes. I'm full on catholic and we call is baptism. Our Catholic priest called it that, as well.