all this gay debate shit going round

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by oats

for anyone using the "unnatural" argument, keep in mind that 99% of daily human activity is unnatural. It's not natural to pave the ground, to put preservatives on food, to genetically modify plants and animals for consumption, etc. All of those are human constructs. If homosexuality is, in fact, a human construct (which is very debatable), that doesn't justify it as immoral in and of itself.

Furthermore, human population has had unchecked rise since the bubonic plague, so our survival as a species has nothing to do with this. If anything, we need less people reproducing.

Beyond that, there are several examples of animals engaging in homosexual activity. Though there isn't any genetic marker of homosexuality at this point, there is plenty of empirical evidence that suggests there may be biological causes. So it may not be as "unnatural" as some believe.

To me, that's all irrelevant. There are gay people in the world. They exist. Who cares if they get married? This strikes me as one of those issues that, in 50 years, people will be scratching their heads about why this was an issue at all. Gay marriage legalization is inevitable, I don't see why people get all twisted about it.

i agree with you for the most part

but every single things humans do is NATURAL

nothing we do is unnatural. we are of this planet. me typing this on a computer, and you guys reading it off of computers or phones miles away is as natural as a huge termite mound in africa. a paved road is natural. the same way ants can carve a trail in the dirt and build underground mega cities.

everything is natural.

[Split]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

i agree with you for the most part

but every single things humans do is NATURAL

nothing we do is unnatural. we are of this planet. me typing this on a computer, and you guys reading it off of computers or phones miles away is as natural as a huge termite mound in africa. a paved road is natural. the same way ants can carve a trail in the dirt and build underground mega cities.

everything is natural.

Exactly

@oats - ur were like the first to actually present a valid arguement LOL..bravo..but yo peep my original comment.

why fight something that actually benefits u tho?

by a person entering into a gay lifestyle they elect to take themselves out of imediate competition for mating, and then long term competititon by not reproducing...while limiting carrying capacity of the population. Its beneficial for any str8 male from a biological standpoint.

[The Bully]

Some of you sound like complete dipshits.

@Seyance - gays wanna get married because of tax benefits, sharing health insurance, emergency medical reasons, etc. Nothing to do with Christianity...and marriage isn't only a Christian tradition.

Why people are gay...abnormality in genes is definitely one cause, since there is homosexuality in other mammals, but conditioning is also a factor.

Given the fact that the world is quickly becoming too overpopulated to sustain our rate of growth, it's actually good for us all that a group of people are choosing a path against reproduction, whatever the cause. And I personally find it pretty repulsive to see a man and man together, like everyone else, but it's also disgusting to see two fat fucks doing their thing. Rather have a couple gay bouls raise a foster kid than some poor 16 year old girl with no baby daddy around.

Funniest shit I saw was that masturbation is gay/clone of yourself jacking ur shit. Lmfao wtf?

[Witty]

I dont see how it is anyone else's business who another person has sex with or marries.

People need to focus on their own shit and not be so obsessed with what others are doing.

I don't give two fucks if someone is gay, I know a couple gay dudes, one is a good friend of mine, I call him a fag or a homo, and we laugh...they're just people lol

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Witty

I dont see how it is anyone else's business who another person has sex with or marries.

man you make it everyone's business if you are an open fairy

[Witty]

Originally Posted by ...the Munster

man you make it everyone's business if you are an open fairy

I agree if they are the fairy type, I hate that shit.

But if they're just gay and not ashamed to say, they have as much right as anybody to be with who they wish.

[The Bully]

Yea, rawn got to it first while I was phone-typing
And oatmeal too. Damnit.

[Orc]

i dnt care enuff to post paragraphs about it either way, stopit4

[NYCSPITZ]

doesn't matter. Fags hit on me all the time and I take it as a compliment. Bag bitches and keep it steppin, if a nigga is very homo though, I will clown him for it

[NYCSPITZ]

every1 complaining about fags in this thread is hiding their inner homo

According to Aero

Oral sex and condoms should both be illegal. You know, since neither lead to reproduction.

Also, having sex for any means other than to have children? Illegal.

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by Meth

According to Aero

Oral sex and condoms should both be illegal. You know, since neither lead to reproduction.

Also, having sex for any means other than to have children? Illegal.

thats nto what he is saying and oral sex is actually a part of sex and could be considered an arousal move which happens with alot of animal types(the arousal aspect) so saying oh if its for reproduction then oral shouldnt be used is a fucking stupid arguement and you need your school teaching liscence revoked tbh

[NYCSPITZ]

aero equating beastiality to faggotry is a slippery slope and sine you seem obsessed with western logic I think u should bring out the H.S. textbooks again...ur sonning urself

[StarFaggot]

You guys are idiots and believe homosexuality is cool. I'm out of this thread.

[oats]

sex point isn't moot, because (again), sex isn't purely a reproductive act. There is sociological and evolutionary evidence to justify sex as an act of love, making it a natural human action in a context outside of reproduction. Therefore, homosexual sex can be considered natural. Beyond that, if you're making the argument that anything unnatural is immoral and thus should be made illegal, then you have a lot of legislation to start writing regarding the rest of our social structure.

Here's an answer to your question: incest is wrong and should be illegal. Once more, since you're having difficulty comprehending what you're reading, I brought up the argument of animals (nature) committing homosexual acts because it occurs in nature. By definition, that means it's natural. Please, if you respond, have something valid to say.

[Split]

LOL @ this thread. jesus harold christ yo

"I dont care if gay dudes get married, i just dont wanna be forced to watch them fuck/ it grosses me out/ lesbos are hot tho"

hoooooly shit. i heard that argument, literally, in 6th grade. wtf are you doing with your life

no straight people are forcing you to watch each other fuck. if you dont like what you see, remove yourself from the goddamn situation

Originally Posted by Seyance

gays are fucking retarded, they want rights to get married which is a christian ceremony, yet the very point of being christian means you think being gay is wrong. its a life choice nothing else, quit your crying over split nail polish.

lol. Sey is trolling.

Originally Posted by ...the Munster

and homosexuality ceases reproduction. it singlehandedly is the root problem and creation of certain stds, and a lot of homosexuals have brain abnormalities

I saw the last one in a documentary I watched in a psych class @ school one day. studied identical twins and showed how identical twins share even the same brain patterns. did it showed the abnormalities present in twins where one was homosexual and the other wasn't

it also showed the defects in twins where one had schitzophrenia

straight people have psychotic abnormalities too, whats your point?

Originally Posted by oats

for anyone using the "unnatural" argument, keep in mind that 99% of daily human activity is unnatural. It's not natural to pave the ground, to put preservatives on food, to genetically modify plants and animals for consumption, etc. All of those are human constructs. If homosexuality is, in fact, a human construct (which is very debatable), that doesn't justify it as immoral in and of itself.

Furthermore, human population has had unchecked rise since the bubonic plague, so our survival as a species has nothing to do with this. If anything, we need less people reproducing.

Beyond that, there are several examples of animals engaging in homosexual activity. Though there isn't any genetic marker of homosexuality at this point, there is plenty of empirical evidence that suggests there may be biological causes. So it may not be as "unnatural" as some believe.

To me, that's all irrelevant. There are gay people in the world. They exist. Who cares if they get married? This strikes me as one of those issues that, in 50 years, people will be scratching their heads about why this was an issue at all. Gay marriage legalization is inevitable, I don't see why people get all twisted about it.

everything human beings do IS natural. our civilization/ society has just evolved so far past that of our animal cousins, it has manifested itself in strange ways


lots and lots of creatures alter their surroundings to construct homes... beavers, ants, ferrets.

Originally Posted by The Bully

Some of you sound like complete dipshits.

@Seyance - gays wanna get married because of tax benefits, sharing health insurance, emergency medical reasons, etc. Nothing to do with Christianity...and marriage isn't only a Christian tradition.

Why people are gay...abnormality in genes is definitely one cause, since there is homosexuality in other mammals, but conditioning is also a factor.

Given the fact that the world is quickly becoming too overpopulated to sustain our rate of growth, it's actually good for us all that a group of people are choosing a path against reproduction, whatever the cause. And I personally find it pretty repulsive to see a man and man together, like everyone else, but it's also disgusting to see two fat fucks doing their thing. Rather have a couple gay bouls raise a foster kid than some poor 16 year old girl with no baby daddy around.

Funniest shit I saw was that masturbation is gay/clone of yourself jacking ur shit. Lmfao wtf?

agree with all that. exept we are not heading towards overpopulation

most countries bithrates (western civilization) are heading into decline:

by which i mean global population is still growing, but the rate of replacement- as in how much of the current population's deaths are being replaced by the next generation's births- is dropping at a staggering rate

http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/01/11/...-be-declining/

watched a cool 60 Minutes documentary on it too... basically, you need 2.1 births per woman (Total Fertility Rate) to maintain the current population going into the next generation

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Data...opulation.aspx


ours is dropping. most western civilizations are, with the exception of south america which is booming

[NYCSPITZ]

lmfaooo

[Inno]

Aero lesbians cant reproduce together either.

Im sure since your upright christian...you surely have a problem
With lesbians as well.

Whatt am I saying.

When people on the internet say 'gay people' they really mean gay guys lmao.

Becuase 2 guys kissing is unnatural, blasphemy, disgusting it open the flood gates to beastiality and blah blah blah...next thing u know bro an sis ar3 fucking...plz, stfu

But 2 girls kissing although the same exact act...is considered
Erotic and no one has a problem with it.


Your all hypocritical morons.