Week 7 chat and predictions - Page 4

Zen · 11-04-2013, 05:12 PM

I wanna know more about this voting ring, and how do I get in on it?

PancakeBrah · 11-04-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Wrecka

that's not true at all. 12 people will make the playoffs. with three weeks left even someone 0-0 right now has an outside chance.

it is designed this way to increase participation. do you really want someone signing in Week 8 to make the playoffs? I don't . that's gay.

anymore complaints?

Uh I'm talking about the contendership/champ match selection. Not playoffs.

Split said voting ring.

I won't bring up any possible complaints, I don't want mein fuhrer to get all snippy and short with me again

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:18 PM

As long as playoffs are open sign-ups if some of those with the top 12 records do not sign in (rather than hunting them down and pressuring them into signing into an eventual no-show) everything seems to be in a decent state

Mike Wrecka · 11-04-2013, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Uh I'm talking about the contendership/champ match selection. Not playoffs.

Split said voting ring.

I won't bring up any possible complaints, I don't want mein fuhrer to get all snippy and short with me

just so you know, title holder does not get an accomp. only the champ at the end of the playoff does. top four ranked get first round byes. get in the top four and it doesn't really matter. the only advantage is picking out your topic every week from three selections given by me or certain. that continues into the playoffs for the top four but only if they are facing someone not in the top four. still friends?

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:20 PM

I didn't mean people were trading votes. Just sometimes people play style bias. I don't have any specific complaints lol thanx tho its comfier beneath the bus than at the back u fucking racist cake

Diode · 11-04-2013, 05:20 PM

my brain kind of melted at the kent state massacre no longer being taught in schools

PancakeBrah · 11-04-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Eight

I didn't mean people were trading votes. Just sometimes people play style bias. I don't have any specific complaints lol thanx tho its comfier beneath the bus than at the back u fucking racist cake

Not sure I get your angle but I'm sure its funny

Mike Wrecka · 11-04-2013, 05:22 PM

and yes the playoffs will have sign ups. top twelve that sign up get in. I have a very intricate rating system that I mentioned in the last mag. it goes by most wins, tie breaker is head to head match ups and second tie breaker is strength of schedule. which is adding up all the wins of someones opponents.

next week I will make the official rankings

YDK · 11-04-2013, 05:24 PM

Why doesn't champing get am accomishmwnt?

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:27 PM

cool. how do you remove bias from strength of schedule? random matchups? i.e. vulgar vs. cake was too good to pass up

Mike Wrecka · 11-04-2013, 05:27 PM

the title holder is not the champion. the last person standing is.

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Wrecka

the title holder is not the champion. the last person standing is.

isnt that the diff between Champed and Accomps?

PancakeBrah · 11-04-2013, 05:30 PM

Yeah I think the accomp is a nice little motivational tool. Champed is obv much more 'prestigious' although saying that about a text site accolade makes me feel a bit lame. BUT FUCK IT IT IS

Mike Wrecka · 11-04-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Split Eight

cool. how do you remove bias from strength of schedule? random matchups? i.e. vulgar vs. cake was too good to pass up

when making match ups during the regular season I try to match up people with the same records as much as possible. and I do take some liberty with the match ups for the good of the league.

I was speaking about the rankings of who gets in the playoffs and their seeding in the playoffs. that's when the ranking system really comes into play. right now just keep winning.

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:33 PM

werd

Mike Wrecka · 11-04-2013, 05:39 PM

well i will speak to Namix about the accomp thing. i was under the impression that accomp was not for things like this. OM HOF and just in general HOF i usually see as a accomp.

look at Franks sign in. under his name it says Champed AOWL. he clearly did not. dead man did. but for some reason in the past they put it under Champed. it doesn't indicate any difference from him holding the title for a few weeks or dead man winning the whole thing. that is cheap.

only one person gets Champed AOWL season 2 under their name. and that's the overall winner.

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:45 PM

well he champed the league, not the season.
this would be nice-

Frank: Champed
AOWL
Dead Man: Accomps
AOWL Season 1

i think the problem is we did not have an admin who cared about topical stuff whatsoever, and we had to tag and beg and plead to get anything done on the administrative front... it was done haphazardly to say the least

resident topical admin @PancakeBrah should fix this

At least that's the method of giving titles they use to distinguish seasons vs. weeks in the NBL.

Anyways. champing the league for a single week takes a large amount of work I wouldn't call cheap by any means... And going by how playoffs show that top 4 people get preference, it kinda shows how really only a very small portion of the writing population are expected to get recognition for the large amount of work they put in

PancakeBrah · 11-04-2013, 05:48 PM

I'll make that adjustment for frank/black. Are there any other situations like that on the topical end?

If we want to give out accomps I can do that. I understand where mike is coming from but past topical leagues have done the champed/accomp thing as does the NBL. Up to mike.

breathless · 11-04-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Yeah I think the accomp is a nice little motivational tool. Champed is obv much more 'prestigious' although saying that about a text site accolade makes me feel a bit lame. BUT FUCK IT IT IS

Truth...

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Originally Posted by Mike Wrecka

anymore complaints?

Yup...

MY ANUS IS BLEEDING!!!!

Split · 11-04-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

I'll make that adjustment for frank/black. Are there any other situations like that on the topical end?

We need to make OM HOF panels for the past 3 months and send out PMs, get people to vote on Write Week, annnnddd idk. update records or some shit

11-04-2013, 05:18 PM	#63
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,898 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899399	As long as playoffs are open sign-ups if some of those with the top 12 records do not sign in (rather than hunting them down and pressuring them into signing into an eventual no-show) everything seems to be in a decent state __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

11-04-2013, 05:20 PM	#65
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,898 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899399	I didn't mean people were trading votes. Just sometimes people play style bias. I don't have any specific complaints lol thanx tho its comfier beneath the bus than at the back u fucking racist cake __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

11-04-2013, 05:20 PM	#66
Diode PR's Finest Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 14,165 Battle Record: 12-7 Rep Power: 85899410	my brain kind of melted at the kent state massacre no longer being taught in schools __________________

11-04-2013, 05:22 PM	#68
Mike Wrecka WOW Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,591 Battle Record: 29-25 Champed - Writing Challenge League I Rep Power: 82779338	and yes the playoffs will have sign ups. top twelve that sign up get in. I have a very intricate rating system that I mentioned in the last mag. it goes by most wins, tie breaker is head to head match ups and second tie breaker is strength of schedule. which is adding up all the wins of someones opponents. next week I will make the official rankings __________________ A.bove T.he R.est

11-04-2013, 05:24 PM	#69
YDK ghost in the matrix Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Covington, KY Posts: 4,563 Battle Record: 14-25 Champed - Art of Writing League (x2) - Lime Green Poetry Association Rep Power: 8181113	Why doesn't champing get am accomishmwnt? __________________

11-04-2013, 05:12 PM	#61
Zen Arm the Homeless Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,102 Battle Record: 22-24 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 35079722	I wanna know more about this voting ring, and how do I get in on it?

11-04-2013, 05:27 PM	#70
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,898 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899399	cool. how do you remove bias from strength of schedule? random matchups? i.e. vulgar vs. cake was too good to pass up __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

11-04-2013, 05:30 PM	#73
PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	Yeah I think the accomp is a nice little motivational tool. Champed is obv much more 'prestigious' although saying that about a text site accolade makes me feel a bit lame. BUT FUCK IT IT IS

11-04-2013, 05:33 PM	#75
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,898 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899399	werd __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com

11-04-2013, 05:39 PM	#76
Mike Wrecka WOW Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,591 Battle Record: 29-25 Champed - Writing Challenge League I Rep Power: 82779338	well i will speak to Namix about the accomp thing. i was under the impression that accomp was not for things like this. OM HOF and just in general HOF i usually see as a accomp. look at Franks sign in. under his name it says Champed AOWL. he clearly did not. dead man did. but for some reason in the past they put it under Champed. it doesn't indicate any difference from him holding the title for a few weeks or dead man winning the whole thing. that is cheap. only one person gets Champed AOWL season 2 under their name. and that's the overall winner. __________________ A.bove T.he R.est

11-04-2013, 05:45 PM	#77
Split . Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,898 Battle Record: 27-22 Rep Power: 85899399	well he champed the league, not the season. this would be nice- Frank: Champed AOWL Dead Man: Accomps AOWL Season 1 i think the problem is we did not have an admin who cared about topical stuff whatsoever, and we had to tag and beg and plead to get anything done on the administrative front... it was done haphazardly to say the least resident topical admin @PancakeBrah should fix this At least that's the method of giving titles they use to distinguish seasons vs. weeks in the NBL. Anyways. champing the league for a single week takes a large amount of work I wouldn't call cheap by any means... And going by how playoffs show that top 4 people get preference, it kinda shows how really only a very small portion of the writing population are expected to get recognition for the large amount of work they put in __________________ http://split8.yolasite.com Last edited by Split; 11-04-2013 at 05:47 PM.

11-04-2013, 05:48 PM	#78
PancakeBrah SOBER Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 12,480 Battle Record: 2-5 Champed - AOWL Season 2 Rep Power: 85899407	I'll make that adjustment for frank/black. Are there any other situations like that on the topical end? If we want to give out accomps I can do that. I understand where mike is coming from but past topical leagues have done the champed/accomp thing as does the NBL. Up to mike.