had a Roy Jones vs Bruce Lee argument and it pissed me off

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by EtH

I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.

thats a comment from someone who has no idea what he is talking about to be completely honest. sorry bro but your fucking full of shit.

[EtH]

Originally Posted by God Of War

thats a comment from someone who has no idea what he is talking about to be completely honest. sorry bro but your fucking full of shit.

I've watched the same Bruce Lee films that you have. You must have watched his millions of well documented fights.

[God Of War]

Originally Posted by EtH

I've watched the same Bruce Lee films that you have. You must have watched his millions of well documented fights.

no its because i know what im talking aboutt, bruce lee had tons of fights, not to mention trained with some of the best grapplers there ever was. even people like bill superfoot wallace and shit still say bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen because he was trained in so many different styles and he constantly had to fight.

roy jones can box thats it and thats all he would do. size has nothing to do with your ability as a fighter i dont give a fuck what yall say thats dumb as shit, speed, strength etc has much more to do with it then your size.

if you don't know what the dude done or accomplished how could you actually speak on it like you do know?

[EtH]

Originally Posted by God Of War

no its because i know what im talking aboutt, bruce lee had tons of fights, not to mention trained with some of the best grapplers there ever was. even people like bill superfoot wallace and shit still say bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen because he was trained in so many different styles and he constantly had to fight.

roy jones can box thats it and thats all he would do. size has nothing to do with your ability as a fighter i dont give a fuck what yall say thats dumb as shit, speed, strength etc has much more to do with it then your size.

if you don't know what the dude done or accomplished how could you actually speak on it like you do know?

Gene LeBell would have been the grappler to mention. But you really think Bruce Lee would want to grapple with a man twice his size, and a man who could knock him out in one punch? Show me ANY proof that Bruce Lee was a big time successful fighter, beyond speculation. He diffidently had a few fights. A few fights Vs one of the best prime boxers of all time.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by God Of War

no its because i know what im talking aboutt, bruce lee had tons of fights, not to mention trained with some of the best grapplers there ever was. even people like bill superfoot wallace and shit still say bruce lee was the best fighter they ever seen because he was trained in so many different styles and he constantly had to fight.

roy jones can box thats it and thats all he would do. size has nothing to do with your ability as a fighter i dont give a fuck what yall say thats dumb as shit, speed, strength etc has much more to do with it then your size.

if you don't know what the dude done or accomplished how could you actually speak on it like you do know?

GoW, eddies obviously trollin somewhat

but if you honestly believe bruce lee could just handle roy jones like its nothing you are fooling yourself or dont know roy jones

granted if bruce lee knows judo or whatever which im sure he does, it could be a quick fight. but striking wise you could give bruce his speed quickness etc. roy's speed SIZE strength, REACH and quickness would body him.

roy jones would look like a giant next to him, and he is extremely quick and agile

if bruce lee was leg kicking and shit and locking up to throw him then word he'd probably get him. but he'd have to get close to roy. which he probably could lets be real. he's a little dude probably shoots quick as fuck

if it was a standup match tho i'd bet the house on roy, even knowing all he has in his repertoire is his hands

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by EtH

I think you guys need to take into account that not only can prime Roy Jones really knock out any man with a perfectly placed punch, but that prime Roy Jones was MUCH heavier than Bruce Lee. Lee could win because it's a kickboxing match, but Jones only has to land one clean shot to win the fight.

I don't get all the hype on Bruce Lee. He's a beast martial artist, but Bren Foster has probably more martial arts credentials right off the bat. Bruce Lee was only as popular as he was through the movies. None of you know his fighting ability. Tony Jaa can rainbox kick about 3 times his height, can he use that in a fight? Probably not. Lee COULD have been the greatest fighter of all time, based on his work rate though. People always say "An MMA fighter could just take Bruce down and beat him up". 100% true, but that's because Bruce Lee wasn't an MMA fighter. You'd struggle to find anyone in the world with the training regime and ethic of Lee, so give him that specific style to train in, and he kills it.

Roy Jones wins by KO for me though. Size difference is too much.

thank you. this was starting to get ridiculous

you tellin me this little dude can beat HOF Boxers of our generation???

like cmon yall sound silly.

y'all need top get off his D

[Evolve]

Originally Posted by ...the Munster

thank you. this was starting to get ridiculous

you tellin me this little dude can beat HOF Boxers of our generation???

like cmon yall sound silly.

y'all need top get off his D

Okay, I'm going to pick out some flaws in your theory here.

Roy Jones was strictly a boxer. He could punch, yes but he wasn't versatile.
Your opinion really comes out from the fact being Roy Jones was 'Bigger' than Bruce Lee... and yes, he was. However, Bruce Lee WAS versatile. He trained martial arts in a way that could defend him from the BIGGEST of opponent. Size wouldn't matter because he was trained to stand up to ANYONE. Technique plays a big part in a fight.. If you haven't got technique then 9 times out of 10 you will lose. You can't charge into an army of soldiers without a shield and expect to NOT get stabbed. Bruce Lee HAD technique and he also had MORE speed than Roy Jones in his prime. Bruce Lee holds a record of punching faster and kicking faster in 1967 than ANY man on the planet. It was recorded that his famous 'One Inch Punch' was three times more fatal than a 30mph head-on car crash. That IS fact. Roy Jones' accolades doesn't even start to compare to Bruce Lee's.

Any man can punch and knock someone out if they hit the right spot. Not every man is versatile ontop of being able to punch three times harder than a 30MPH head-on car crash.

ALSO - you say Bruce Lee wasn't a fight... he was just in movies...

Think to yourself... Why was he in movies? Why did people want him to star in movies? How did he get noticed?

Because of his fighting and incredible combat/fighting techniques/style.

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by Evolve

Okay, I'm going to pick out some flaws in your theory here.

Roy Jones was strictly a boxer. He could punch, yes but he wasn't versatile.
Your opinion really comes out from the fact being Roy Jones was 'Bigger' than Bruce Lee... and yes, he was. However, Bruce Lee WAS versatile. He trained martial arts in a way that could defend him from the BIGGEST of opponent. Size wouldn't matter because he was trained to stand up to ANYONE. Technique plays a big part in a fight.. If you haven't got technique then 9 times out of 10 you will lose. You can't charge into an army of soldiers without a shield and expect to NOT get stabbed. Bruce Lee HAD technique and he also had MORE speed than Roy Jones in his prime. Bruce Lee holds a record of punching faster and kicking faster in 1967 than ANY man on the planet. It was recorded that his famous 'One Inch Punch' was three times more fatal than a 30mph head-on car crash. That IS fact. Roy Jones' accolades doesn't even start to compare to Bruce Lee's.

Any man can punch and knock someone out if they hit the right spot. Not every man is versatile ontop of being able to punch three times harder than a 30MPH head-on car crash.

ALSO - you say Bruce Lee wasn't a fight... he was just in movies...

Think to yourself... Why was he in movies? Why did people want him to star in movies? How did he get noticed?

Because of his fighting and incredible combat/fighting techniques/style.

the reason why a lot of this is irrelevant to me is because his stuff didn't translate into fighting

he just doesn't have the experience fighting. he has experience performing and making movies.

all that stuff you said is pretty, but he didn't catch wreck and all of his exhibits was him doing stuff to ppl that weren't fighting him

Roy Jones fought for money. he beat fools in their heads. it just isn't the same thing

ppl sleep on boxers like they can't brawl outside the ring. remember, this is all fighting, and being able to punch like Roy would be the determining factor in this match-up

its not just his size, but his size is an advantage, idc if he "trained" to fight bigger ppl or not

he didn't even fight

size
strength
experience

besides the kicks to the legs I don;t see bruce effectively hittin roy either

he'd get maybe one punch in if Roy was being cocky, but let's be real

the only thiing Bruce would do is kick Roy's legs. that could work tho

but I got Roy winning 8/10 times

[trap.]

Metts, no-one is treating him that way. Roy Jones is the greatest .. at boxing. Bruce Lee was the greatest in martial arts, which encompasses boxing (in a variation) and MUCH more. Bruce Lee was the best, if not one of the best, in any form of fighting he tried.

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by trap

Metts, no-one is treating him that way. Roy Jones is the greatest .. at boxing. Bruce Lee was the greatest in martial arts, which encompasses boxing (in a variation) and MUCH more. Bruce Lee was the best, if not one of the best, in any form of fighting he tried.

1. aren't you metts?

2. Boxing > Martial arts (opinion of most active fighters regardless of style)

3. Bruce Lee was not the greatest Martial Artist ever, man, he ain't even close

4. RJJ was not the greatest boxer ever

[God Of War]

man no one was as quick as bruce lee ever, and not to mention bruce lee was trained in grappling, and by one fo the best martial arts teachers there was then proceeded to dominate it. lee also fought in boxing tournaments and martial art tournaments when he was young. bruce lee stopped ebcause he loved the art of fighting and focused on it and didnt like to be pinned with rules. roy jones is no where near as trained as bruce lee was. nor as skillful

[Joe Metts]

Dumbest argument ever honestly.

So im out.

But idk who id pick. I know jack shit about bruce lee. Never seen a movie.

[EtH]

You guys aren't taking in account the RIDICULOUS strength of a professional boxer either. There's a reason people said if James Toney, one of the worse current popular boxers in the world, landed on Randy Couture, it was over. Jones lands ONE punch on Lee, Lee is out.

[God Of War]

bullshit, lee was known as a combat fighter, fought in tons and tons of exhibitions around the world and etc. jones wouldnt even hit lee

[...the Nagger]

Originally Posted by God Of War

bullshit, lee was known as a combat fighter, fought in tons and tons of exhibitions around the world and etc. jones wouldnt even hit lee

nigga that sounds insae. yes he would hit lee


and where are these exhibitions? you're making stuff up gow

[Joe Metts]

Im not trap man.

Just cause were from md?

Aren't you butler, fake frac and richard corey.

Y'all are black. Makes sense.

[Joe Metts]

Jackie Chan had slick movies. He'd beat Vlladamir Klitschko i bet.

[uh-oh]

yo to be honest

im terrified of black people from florida

[super pimp trillionaire]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

yo to be honest

im terrified of black people from florida

sigged.

[super pimp trillionaire]

Eddie is bored. he aint got no bby foxes burrowing under his office he aint riding a ten speed covered in wave cream and he wanted some excitement. he is NOT serious talkighting experience. if he is I hope the ghost of bruce lee armbars him into submission and then two inch punches his neighbors voicebox crooked. Bruce Lee has definitely influenced this generation of fighters and yes they grew off of his work, but we're talking about roy, not chan. Bruce is famous for his movies because he was famous for developing jeet kune do in america. he was also famous for REFUSING to fight Ali. out of respect? maybe, I believe the interview where he predicted a loss to Ali can readily be found on youtube. but roy is not Ali any more than he is Jacky. Ali woulda dusted roy he demolished monsters in his time. idk. seeing as BRUCE IS DEAD, this is more speculation and imagination than roy v manny, but imo, lee all day, with roy gettin a couple luck wins by sheer number of attempts. niggas act like bruce never whupped nobody bigger than he was... EVERYBODY was bigger than bruce. his wife was bigger than he was. EDDIE is bigger than he was. but he's dead. so all we have is a tale of the tape thats decades separated; do the math, the student of ip man teacher of chan and orginator of jeet kune do is not losing to this celebrated boxer. not on paper, not no way.

ppl say somebodys on lees nuts, I say get off roys nuts... bruces final style was a style without form, he woulda danced on roy. bruce had no fighting experience.... obv a slow day at work troll. good job Munster