Thought experiment help?

[dull boy]

Is this a serious thread?

[Amen]

Originally Posted by dull boy

Is this a serious thread?

[boof]

if it's not objectively wrong then neither is the perspective of the rich people in his statement and that's part of the point so hopefully you get it now

[DMS]

Originally Posted by boof

if it's not objectively wrong then neither is the perspective of the rich people in his statement and that's part of the point so hopefully you get it now

What?

[boof]

dms speciesist as hell but can't comprehend classism

[DMS]

Originally Posted by boof

dms speciesist as hell but can't comprehend classism

I don’t know what either of those mean, ngl, but I bet one of which has to do with something not grounded in fundamental reality.

[boof]

also this was a terrible social experiment

[Elemental P]

Originally Posted by boof

also this was a terrible social experiment

I disagree. Why is it terrible? From what I seen you all have to reevaluate your moral compass cause if you believe a life is worth less than money which is a physical substance mankinf made then you are severely lacking in the compassion and empathetic department and should probably seek help.

[DMS]

Originally Posted by Elemental P

I disagree. Why is it terrible? From what I seen you all have to reevaluate your moral compass cause if you believe a life is worth less than money which is a physical substance mankinf made then you are severely lacking in the compassion and empathetic department and should probably seek help.

But it’s not a human life. Give me evidence none humans matter at all.

[Elemental P]

Originally Posted by DMS

But it’s not a human life. Give me evidence none humans matter at all.

Dogs are used for all kinds of reasons, like security dogs, dogs that assist the blind and other people with handicaps and even mental instability. Fact, I was in the hospital for pancreatitis, and they actually had a hospital dog they bring around to paitents because it is known that petting an animal, is similar to hugging a grieving person, it's an analgesic. So if everything I mentioned about dogs which wasn't even a lot holds no substance at all then feel free to explain why. I don't know if I believe animals have souls, that's a different topic. But what is wrong with animals? They act upon instinct not by an ego, or motive like.mankind does. Animals aren't evil, yea we can domestic them, beat and abuse them, but they can feel pain. A dog is happy to see his owner when they get home for example. What makes that life less valueable as let's say, having an abortion, because it's "just a dumb animal"?

[DMS]

Originally Posted by Elemental P

Dogs are used for all kinds of reasons, like security dogs, dogs that assist the blind and other people with handicaps and even mental instability. Fact, I was in the hospital for pancreatitis, and they actually had a hospital dog they bring around to paitents because it is known that petting an animal, is similar to hugging a grieving person, it's an analgesic. So if everything I mentioned about dogs which wasn't even a lot holds no substance at all then feel free to explain why. I don't know if I believe animals have souls, that's a different topic. But what is wrong with animals? They act upon instinct not by an ego, or motive like.mankind does. Animals aren't evil, yea we can domestic them, beat and abuse them, but they can feel pain. A dog is happy to see his owner when they get home for example. What makes that life less valueable as let's say, having an abortion, because it's "just a dumb animal"?

Demonstrate further

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Elemental P

I disagree. Why is it terrible? From what I seen you all have to reevaluate your moral compass cause if you believe a life is worth less than money which is a physical substance mankinf made then you are severely lacking in the compassion and empathetic department and should probably seek help.

nah man, its just the framing of the question blows, which is why you had to change it. what you changed it to is terribly vague as well. 18 billion dollars worth of saving animals. what animals? how are they saved? is it going to conservation of the forest or some shit? or going to shelters? etc. either way the moral impact of murdering a puppy PERSONALLY wouldn't outweigh some non personal saving of animals in general

with 18 billion dollars given to you though, and not some intangible blanket statement of saving animals, it would be so easy to get over killing a puppy though, because i think you aren't grasping how much money that is. you could personally do so much good and still be filthy rich on top of all of it

plus animals die every day b. you could rationalize anything while being able to literally afford to do ANYTHING. id stomp a baby out too, if in the hypothetical land it wouldn't be murder/i wouldnt be punished for it. its nothing against an animal in general. life is cheap. its a cold world doggie

[Elemental P]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

nah man, its just the framing of the question blows, which is why you had to change it. what you changed it to is terribly vague as well. 18 billion dollars worth of saving animals. what animals? how are they saved? is it going to conservation of the forest or some shit? or going to shelters? etc. either way the moral impact of murdering a puppy PERSONALLY wouldn't outweigh some non personal saving of animals in general

with 18 billion dollars given to you though, and not some intangible blanket statement of saving animals, it would be so easy to get over killing a puppy though, because i think you aren't grasping how much money that is. you could personally do so much good and still be filthy rich on top of all of it

plus animals die every day b. you could rationalize anything while being able to literally afford to do ANYTHING. id stomp a baby out too, if in the hypothetical land it wouldn't be murder/i wouldnt be punished for it. its nothing against an animal in general. life is cheap. its a cold world doggie

That was exactly my point was to be vague b.c thought experiments are blown out of proportion, and exaggerated themes that don't occur in reality but simply make you question yourself. I could have wrote a novel about "The Mystery of the Man who Stomped the puppy to death in the streets in order to save 18 billion animals" and would have the premise of the movie like Men in Black where a shadow government goes around asking people to do it, not different to that movie THE BOX which was basically put in to a more realistic based scenario, i wanted it to be exaggerated.

[Sharp]

Agreed. We haven't seen the new season yet but I'm worried it might get too convoluted for me to want to follow

[Elemental P]

And yea I chose the money as well but I would have to use at least Some of it for a good cause. Like create no profit organization for rescuing animals and for people in need. But I guess I'm just weird. Or actually have a soul, can't tell with the lot of fucked up individuals in here.

[Exis]

I'll slaughter any pussy for free...

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by Elemental P

So this is something new I'm trying, just for my curiosity and due to my interest in psychoanalysis and I've always been more in to philosophy than religion. I did my first one yesterday on FB and I used the meme where it asks: Would you stomp on the puppy for 18 BILLION DOLLARS.

But I changed it up to be more morally thought provoking. So I asked, for every 1$ let's say the saves an animals life. So that's 18 Billion animals you could save, endangered species could be saved from going extinct ect. So, would you kill the puppy in order to help the 18 Billion animals?

Well here's the results.

NO: 11 total. 6 females and 5 males (didn't cover demographics or any of that just men/women.

YES:4 Total. 3 females and 1 Male.

I had spent a lot of time drawing a conclusion from this and it's supposed to make you question your morals. Does the end justify the means?
How about any of you guys, what would you answer? And you have think about it carefully.

(So I want to continue this trend for my own intellectual reasons and curiosity and would like some help with more Thought Experiment ideas. Yes I checked Google and read some to give me some more ideas but I want to hear more original ideas. Anyone care to help or at least answer the question I posted?) I'll post my short summary conclusion (kept it short due to not enough participants and kept it vague for a reason.)

Bro

the word consequences does not appear in here once. You just said we could save 18 billion animals with that money. It's the trolley lever thing's gritty 2018 reboot

[~RustyGunZ~]

OP could you run a test on how many people actually pray for strangers on FB that they say they will pray for in comment threads?

[Ghost1]

we have literally been studying ethics and morality for hundreds of years

u think ur going to just conjure an original idea on the discussion in ur stupid little peanut brain when u cant even understand that the devil is the antagonist in the Bible?

fuck u an fuck fb

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Ghost1

we have literally been studying ethics and morality for hundreds of years

u think ur going to just conjure an original idea on the discussion in ur stupid little peanut brain when u cant even understand that the devil is the antagonist in the Bible?

fuck u an fuck fb

You’re the piece of shit that ignores when it mean satan wins

Fuck U sir