KNOW YOUR LEGENDS Vol 1: JOHN STOCKTON

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Originally Posted by Certain

What are you talking about?

https://twitter.com/MagicJohnson/sta...28370560876545

http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._id2=johnsma02

Well magic flip flopped certain.....maybe becuase of the aids?

Admit you are racist against stockton?

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Originally Posted by Infiltration

He'd have defensive problems at a high level though. Stockton grabbed a lot of steals because he had quick hands but he was by no means a ball stopper, especially in a league like this where the Pg most teams will have will likely be someone like Magic or Isiah Thomas or Steve Nash. He couldn't guard any of them.

Stockton WAS NEVER ESPECIALLY FAST. He was FUNDAMENTALLY GREAT. Very good shooter, high basketball IQ, basketball savvy. Gary Payton specifically had trouble guarding him because he had to fight through pick after pick after pick Stockton would call for. He WOULD NEVER EVER be allowed to dominate the ball like that on the same floor as Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, the Utah Jazz was Stockton dribbling around, penetrating and dishing, running the pick and roll with Malone, taking jumpers. That is not going down on the same floor with Michael Jordan.. etc. So if he isn't going to bring that offensively, you're better off finding a more athletic guard who can give you more on the defensive end of the floor.

So your argument is that he basically was just amazing at what a point guard is supposed to do....but he is not athletic enough? Ok cool.

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Originally Posted by big baby

also magic constantly has said people are the greatest and has come down on his own shortly thereafter. also, magic has a higher per, was a better scorer, and actually a better ball distributor, just because u have more doesn't mean you average more, especially when you played more seasons. beritas racist agents blacks!

Hey..... first of all great news! Haldol comes in a once a month shot now. It makes it easier to take. So that would be good for you.


Also....Stockton was literally the perfect point guard. Literally. His extensive career of amazing averages and records reflect this.

Also.....my boy stockton had mad heart. Dude was a savage. Played on the dream team with a broken leg. Gtfo.

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Uhoh was honest....he admitted his stockton hate was pure racism. Who else will man up and admit this.

Looking at you @Certain

I can feel your hatred. Was it his short shorts? Or beaver cleaver swag?

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http://uproxx.com/dimemag/john-stock...d-of-all-time/

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[big baby]

u literally just sed he was good and didn't refute anything

just was like


na he's good tho


also da new drug of losah came in u should buy

[Diode]

Steph Curry.

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Originally Posted by big baby

u literally just sed he was good and didn't refute anything

just was like


na he's good tho


also da new drug of losah came in u should buy

Bc I don't dignify nonsense with a cogent response. I legit feel sorry for you.

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Originally Posted by Diode

Steph Curry.

Montana.

[big baby]

my thread

[veritas]

Haldol. Decanoate. Once a month.

You can cop that Depakote liquid too for your depression.

That is all. Just want to help. You can't hurt me and I refuse to hurt you bc you are broken. Ok?

Sooo.....we can pretend this is your thread. We can talk baby talk and gay talk too. Fucka fun huh?

[Allen Knight]

magic johnson>john stockton

[big baby]

still my thread

[Hearder Hearder]

Eric Bledsoe top 5

[Batty]

John Stockton is one nigga I can't show anything but love for.

[PancakeBrah]

You really need to contextualize those statistics.

I know you're trying to be a super lol troll, but I'll take the bait.

John Stockton was never the best player on those great Jazz teams. The reason he has all those assists is because Karl Malone was a top tier, all time power forward. Now, Stockton is no doubt a big part of why that pick and roll was so vicious. But he was the ancillary part. Not replaceable, no, but the least important of the two. How can Stockton be a top 5 player of all time if Karl Malone isn't? The logic doesn't follow.

As for steals, they have been proven to be superficial and full of noise. A great perimeter defender doesn't necessarily have to have a lot of steals, and someone who has a lot of steals can be a poor defender. That's the problem with trying to quantify defense. Are you averaging two steals a game because youre reaching and in the end being a negative on defense? Or are you a legit defender who happens to pick his spots well? I don't have enough recollection of those Stockton years to say either way, though I doubt Stockton had the lateral quickness of a truly elite level perimeter defender.

So he was the second best player of an all time great duo. A top tier point guard. But he's no Magic Johnson. Magic was better at every facet of basketball. And in terms of pure point guard skills he was better. But he was in a different system and was asked to do different things.

Chris Paul is a much better point guard, just to name a current example.

A great player you're over rating for the purposes of a lame, transparent, obvious troll. We get it.

[Ghost1]

Solid rebuttal tbc

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Someone with a recollection of the stockton years for a rebuttal plz? Cake is not a reliable source of opinion.he is in fact trolling in a serious thread while saying that I am trolling. That is low.

[Mr. J]

Seems like V trying to redefine Stockholm syndrome






































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