HOW NAS' ILLMATIC RUINED HIPHOP - Page 2

Certain · 04-10-2016, 07:16 PM

Imagine how highly we’d regard this album:

1. “Ambitionz Az a Ridah”
2. “2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted”
3. “Picture Me Rollin’”
4. “Got My Mind Made Up”
5. “How Do U Want It”
6. “All About U”
7. “California Love (remix)”
8. “Can’t C Me”
9. “Shorty Wanna Be a Thug”
10. “I Ain’t Mad at Cha”
11. “All Eyez on Me”
12. “No More Pain”
13. “Life Goes On”
14. “Ain’t Hard 2 Find”
15. “Only God Can Judge Me”

That version of All Eyez on Me would be in my top 10-20 ever.

Witty · 04-10-2016, 07:20 PM

Ok, and that's an opinion which I respect, but what is your definition of a filler track? A bad track, or a track thrown in which doesn't really fit with the tone of the album?

For me, it's the latter....there are bad tracks in albums which I wouldn't consider filler tracks.

Certain · 04-10-2016, 07:24 PM

“Picture Me Rollin’” is the only essential track on Disc 2. (There are other good tracks, but that's the only great one.) Meanwhile, Disc 1 has a lot of the best work of his career —“Ambitionz Az a Ridah” and “I Ain’t Mad at Cha” and “Only God Can Judge Me” and “2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted” — with very little filler. That imbalance is the problem.

Witty · 04-10-2016, 07:25 PM

Also, can we just take a moment to remember "2 of Americaz most wanted"

Mr. J · 04-10-2016, 07:51 PM

But you're in love with Oasis...

Witty · 04-10-2016, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. J

But you're in love with Oasis...

And you're in love with being a semi-enigmatic character in a dying topical league.

We all have our vices.

Mr. J · 04-10-2016, 08:14 PM

Interesting opinion and I respect it.

Back to the point...give someone your coin purse when your feeling nostalgic at the pub

<3

uh-oh · 04-10-2016, 08:18 PM

If all eyes on me isnt in your top 20 as it is your opinion is incorrect.

Then again i dont see skippable tracks as some dealbreaker because their is literally maybe 3 albums all time that only have 1-2 tracks i skip. Everything has shit i skip. Classics have a bunch of tracks i skip.

Maybe thats why i dont understand the hate for blueprint 2. Its a double disc that couldve been cut to a regular album sure. But ill take it with the extra content. Their is still more dope shit on it than 90 percent of most single release albums

Same with all eyes on me. You name 15 solid songs and half of the shit you skip is good too lol. Thats a solid piece of work.

Certain · 04-10-2016, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uh-oh

Then again i dont see skippable tracks as some dealbreaker because their is literally maybe 3 albums all time that only have 1-2 tracks i skip. Everything has shit i skip.

That was my whole point. All Eyez on Me ushered in the "I'd rather have more even if it's not that great" mindset.

Ghost1 · 04-10-2016, 09:01 PM

Leave tupac alone certain LEAVE HIM ALONE

Ghost1 · 04-10-2016, 09:04 PM

Also cosign blueprint2

I didn't even know it was considered bad till recently

To me thats some of the best music he ever made

Certain · 04-10-2016, 09:04 PM

2Pac is like the 12th best rapper from New York.

Mr. J · 04-10-2016, 10:03 PM

I wouldn't have a Pac album in my top 40 tbh

04-10-2016, 07:16 PM	#21
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,072 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899403	Imagine how highly we’d regard this album: 1. “Ambitionz Az a Ridah” 2. “2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted” 3. “Picture Me Rollin’” 4. “Got My Mind Made Up” 5. “How Do U Want It” 6. “All About U” 7. “California Love (remix)” 8. “Can’t C Me” 9. “Shorty Wanna Be a Thug” 10. “I Ain’t Mad at Cha” 11. “All Eyez on Me” 12. “No More Pain” 13. “Life Goes On” 14. “Ain’t Hard 2 Find” 15. “Only God Can Judge Me” That version of All Eyez on Me would be in my top 10-20 ever. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

04-10-2016, 07:20 PM	#22
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,810 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	Ok, and that's an opinion which I respect, but what is your definition of a filler track? A bad track, or a track thrown in which doesn't really fit with the tone of the album? For me, it's the latter....there are bad tracks in albums which I wouldn't consider filler tracks. __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

04-10-2016, 07:24 PM	#23
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,072 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899403	“Picture Me Rollin’” is the only essential track on Disc 2. (There are other good tracks, but that's the only great one.) Meanwhile, Disc 1 has a lot of the best work of his career —“Ambitionz Az a Ridah” and “I Ain’t Mad at Cha” and “Only God Can Judge Me” and “2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted” — with very little filler. That imbalance is the problem. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

04-10-2016, 07:25 PM	#24
Witty Lime Life Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 16,810 Battle Record: 30-41 Accomplishments - Only Slightly Retarded Champed - Lyric Olympics - Summer Classic Rep Power: 82986458	Also, can we just take a moment to remember "2 of Americaz most wanted" __________________ He listens to voices inside of his mind Explicit and poisonous violent crime.

04-10-2016, 07:51 PM	#25
Mr. J The Clown Prince Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,030 Battle Record: 35-45 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 59349679	But you're in love with Oasis... __________________ .....laugh....and the world laughs with you

04-10-2016, 08:14 PM	#27
Mr. J The Clown Prince Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,030 Battle Record: 35-45 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 59349679	Interesting opinion and I respect it. Back to the point...give someone your coin purse when your feeling nostalgic at the pub <3 __________________ .....laugh....and the world laughs with you

04-10-2016, 08:18 PM	#28
uh-oh DA GOD Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canton Ohio Posts: 12,362 Battle Record: 1-0 Champed - Beat Battle II - Beat Battle V - Beat Bags Rep Power: 84181417	If all eyes on me isnt in your top 20 as it is your opinion is incorrect. Then again i dont see skippable tracks as some dealbreaker because their is literally maybe 3 albums all time that only have 1-2 tracks i skip. Everything has shit i skip. Classics have a bunch of tracks i skip. Maybe thats why i dont understand the hate for blueprint 2. Its a double disc that couldve been cut to a regular album sure. But ill take it with the extra content. Their is still more dope shit on it than 90 percent of most single release albums Same with all eyes on me. You name 15 solid songs and half of the shit you skip is good too lol. Thats a solid piece of work. __________________ EVERYBODY I KNOW GOT WEED OR GOT POWDER BUT I AINT GOT EITHER. GOT ALOT OF DEMONS

04-10-2016, 09:04 PM	#32
Certain Mad fucking dangerous. Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 12,072 Battle Record: 40-19 Champed - AOWL Season 3 - Art of Writing League (2x) Rep Power: 85899403	2Pac is like the 12th best rapper from New York. __________________ I'm just swinging swords strictly based on keyboards, unbalanced like elephants and ants on seesaws.

04-10-2016, 10:03 PM	#33
Mr. J The Clown Prince Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 5,030 Battle Record: 35-45 Champed - Art of Writing League Rep Power: 59349679	I wouldn't have a Pac album in my top 40 tbh __________________ .....laugh....and the world laughs with you