GoT (don't come in if your worried about spoilers obv)

[uh-oh]

Winds of winter has the horn which will take down the wall as its cover. This plus tyrion being a targaryen in the books (not the show) is just another huge difference.

I dont think the night king takes a dragon. There is one for dany jon and tyrion. The other aegon will die for sure.

But i largely agree. This entire series is about the white walkers. The very first chapter and first scene. The politics and everything else was an aside, distractions building up for the second coming of the long night.

The show itself is to blame. Theyre just burning through everything i think and cutting out tons of shit.

EURON FUCKING SAILED INTO THE LEGIT HEART OF OLD VALYRIA AND HAS AN ENTIRE SUIT OF VALYRIAN PLATE ARMOR. HE HAS A HORN THAT CONTROLS DRAGONS.

in the show hes a slithering weirdo tryna fuck cersei? Cmon

But yea man.

Whats dead may never die. Here is to hoping that there is more in the lands of always winter. The night king was really the night lieutenant. Or somethong

[Orc]

Wow

GOAT episode for sure

Agree the library scene was tense

I think the red milf telling arya she was destined to kill blue eyes made it clear she would kill the NK

Maybe would have been better if she died it was a little too easy imo and she’s my fav character. Fuck it

[Sharp]

Uh-oh, I feel like you've researched medieval warfare

What do you think about the tactics used by thr good guys? Specifically, the formation of calvary running off to doom-> infantry-> caltrops - > seige weapons used once and never again really broke the immersion for me

Feeling like we got Helm's Deep reloaded but replaced the logic with eye candy... And that's a battle where 'throw the dwarf' was a viable tactic
@bleak Danny's two dragons are in the episode 4 preview and I'm pretty sure everything the nk turned went with him (dragon included)

[Orc]

sharp I feel like that’s being really finicky bro

Any tactical irregularities can be offset by the fact they were fighting death imo

But YO the Dothraki riding to their doom in literally 20 seconds was terrifying

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Sharp.

Uh-oh, I feel like you've researched medieval warfare

What do you think about the tactics used by thr good guys? Specifically, the formation of calvary running off to doom-> infantry-> caltrops - > seige weapons used once and never again really broke the immersion for me

Feeling like we got Helm's Deep reloaded but replaced the logic with eye candy... And that's a battle where 'throw the dwarf' was a viable tactic
@bleak Danny's two dragons are in the episode 4 preview and I'm pretty sure everything the nk turned went with him (dragon included)

Ehhh it wouldnt have been my plan. My main gripes were the undefended siege engines that werent firing until the charge was already under way. They would be first. Trebuchets raining death. I wouldve had the dothraki on the flanks and had the unsullied actually in phalanx mode in front of the trebuchets. Locked formation shield to shield, when it zoomed out and showed them like 3 feet from eachhother i was like wtf.

But yea in their defense the dothraki are legendary in the open field. But not the show dothraki. Theyre modeled after steppe tribes, scythian/huns/later mongols, but show dothraki dont fight with bows as well. They fight like heavy cavalry, yet have no armor.

So yea, i would have the unsullied and the majority of the infantry holding the center, even have the dothraki around the back so the dead funnel more to the center, trebuchets and arrows raining until contact. And just hammer and anvil both flanks with the dothraki after the main host is engaged. Then have dragons firing into the center of the encirclement

If its over run the trench works good and get everyone ON THE WALLS. There should be no space along that wall. Anyone else manning gates for giant breaches. Also i would employ actual wall defenses. Something as simple as stones to drop on them.

But thats pretty much all that can be done. Once the walls are breached the battle itself is lost. You just gotta hope you kill enough initially to make the defense of the walls feasible

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

Ehhh it wouldnt have been my plan. My main gripes were the undefended siege engines that werent firing until the charge was already under way. They would be first. Trebuchets raining death.

@bleak

Everything fell apart right away for sure, but the way they were set up was weird to me. Logic and uh-oh say they should've been firing first

[bleak]

Originally Posted by Sharp.

@bleak

Everything fell apart right away for sure, but the way they were set up was weird to me. Logic and uh-oh say they should've been firing first

True i noticed that at the beginning as well. It would have given them more light too

Answer that scene was so dark for a reason (to save budget lmao) it made the fight feel close up and gritty. When the horde charges into the Unsullied thay was dope.

You think they should have put street lights on the Kingsroad

[Destroyer]

YES
Dothraki went out so fast
Unsullied kept it real tho

[Diode]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

YES
Dothraki went out so fast
Unsullied kept it real tho

horses cost an ungodly amount of budget money

[Sharp]

I'm supposed to be invested in this battle as mankind's last stand against death when the strategies are just aimed a cinematic experience?

Well directed, not sold on the writing. Now that I'm over watching it, I'm not a huge fan. Battle of the bastards had an unlikely scenario that had a logical opening (the thing with Rickon) that didn't kill immersion with 'why is that happening'

[Orc]

Originally Posted by Sharp.

I'm supposed to be invested in this battle as mankind's last stand against death when the strategies are just aimed a cinematic experience?

Well directed, not sold on the writing. Now that I'm over watching it, I'm not a huge fan. Battle of the bastards had an unlikely scenario that had a logical opening (the thing with Rickon) that didn't kill immersion with 'why is that happening'

Jesus Christ get this man a whiskey

[Sharp]

Originally Posted by ORC

Jesus Christ get this man a whiskey

See, I drank while watching and got more nitpicky

You don't think this a slight departure from the norm in show that's been so heady with politics/betrayal/lore? Feels more to me like fanservice for the TV audience now that they've split from the books

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Sharp.

See, I drank while watching and got more nitpicky

You don't think this a slight departure from the norm in show that's been so heady with politics/betrayal/lore? Feels more to me like fanservice for the TV audience now that they've split from the books

It is a 100% that

Gotta keep the huge fan base invested and only kill fodder characters. God forbid they killed dany or Jon or Arya

[Orc]

Nah fellas I agree with you both 100% on that. Boils down to what uh-oh was saying about the writing being levels below since the show surpassed the books

No way would everyone survive otherwise ie if the books were ahead

It did feel watered down like even Grey Worm survived. Come on now. They killed the OG ranger for no reason too saving Sam smh cliche

But word

[Destroyer]

Winter fell at Winterfell
Pretty apropos, no?

[BodySnatcher]

Did Cersei use all the wildfire when she blew Sept of Baelor? If she still sitting on that, I'm scared.

[Sharp]

Edd dying was a forgone conclusion. I'm guessing they're keeping the rest around to milk later. since it's more about the visuals than the plot, I'm interested in experiential aspects but it kind of sucks to have all of that build up for a big ol 'YAAAASS GRL' when the first 5 seasons were anything but that

[~RustyGunZ~]

I’m guessing at least one of the brothers gets got

And either Jon or dany by the end

[~RustyGunZ~]

But it’s pretty disappointing that Avengers was less forgiving with its characters than the battle against death lol

[Destroyer]

Your mom is pretty disappointing