yeah so MMLP2 has leaked

[Joe Metts]

Eminem is a quarter billionaire thats 40 years old and can barlely go out in public.


gritty is gone man. hes grown. raising kids. he realizes he influences too many people now to be careless with the shit he says.

[Destroyer]

Your points would be a lot easier to argue against if "stronger than I was" was not on this record @swag

[DLB]

Originally Posted by J. Metts

Eminem is a quarter billionaire thats 40 years old and can barlely go out in public.


gritty is gone man. hes grown. raising kids. he realizes he influences too many people now to be careless with the shit he says.

that's not an excuse tho. hip hop has lost it's grittiness at the same time all these stars of hip hop did. just as WWE has. just as this generation has. it lacks that strength it used to have, because a lot of the older guys just show up for paychecks while the younger cats are just buried, as the WWE is. nobody really takes risks anymore.

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Your points would be a lot easier to argue against if "stronger than I was" was not on this record @swag

& no, eminem has been like this since about encore/relapse time. he should've retired after encore and just let it be as jay should've with the black album. eminem used to rap crazy shit that was dope, now it's just stupid shit. relapse/recovery/encore/MMLP2 are all in the same category to me, it's like the Hornswoggle of rap. mostly just corny, filler shit

Lovegame is the worst song i've ever heard and it has one of the brightest stars on it in hip-hop today. i'm still smh'ing at it. it's not like they went "Renegade" on it, they essentially went Drake and that guy gets A LOT of slack for being soft. if Drake gets a lot of shit for doing songs that are soft as fuck, Em should be for Recovery and some of the shit on this.


and for examples, i'd love to do this comparison of shit:

typical wrestling before


u had ppl challenging the top dawgs (Spike Dudley) and the listeners of rap were like Jim Ross( BAHHHHHHH GAWD DIS IS A SLOBBERKNOCKER) when some dope shit was out, (HES CHEATIN PLAIN AND SIMPLE) when it was garbage shit.



the promo is like, on some fuck shit. u dont know what's going on, it's hype and shit's just crazy in general

wrestling now


the grittiness is gone, it's fucking corny as fuck. shit's just like childish and amateur shit. Michael Cole's an annoying ass Stan almost and it's shitty.



not as gritty. john cena is fucking lame as fuck in a lot of promos. again, michael cole, aka the annoying Stan speaks a little. ryback is corny, same with John Cena. it's not as unexpectable, John Cena rarely loses anything too

rap before



classic, gritty sound. biggie kills it



another classic, the beat itself is perfect. it makes sense and fits the track, it's dope. it's not on some sucker ass love song shit, etc. it's just some shit u can feel w/o making dude sound like a bitch, cause he's a MAN



hell, lets use an Eminem song. dude sounds like he's speaking to u while he's fucking raping u. son sounds pissed, the flow is there since the beginning, going with the piano, just spewing venom, shitting on your soul.


rap now



this guy's not even rapping that he will kill you, but he singing "you gon hype me up and make me catch a body like that.......ahhhhhhhhhhhhh" and using autotune the whole song. the beat is crazy but the lyrics lack because we all KNOWWWWWWWWW drake ain't killing niggas.



jay z kills neither verse, but the beat fits his style perfectly. instead, justin timberlake comes in and just SLAYS his part of the song, while jay comes off w/ shit u don't care nor know what he's talking about. jay been doing that for about a decade imo, the whole Tyson,Jordan, Michael references are STILL being used by him, etc. it's Watch the Throne w/o Kanye basically.



eminem now. beat sounds like some shit fitting for the Beastie Boys. Em says the "ra-hag" line, then the whole thing with "Kendrick...slink it.... picnic" is fucking annoying at the end of every line. some lines come off corny, the HOOK is sooooooooooooooooo corny. the song isn't gritty or even saying anything tbh, i've heard better songs to get ppl hyped/party. let me quote everything lame he says, and thanks to Rap Genius, it adds in hyphens of all the corny shit he says:

But girl, your body's banging, jump me in, dang, bang-bang
Yessiree Bob, I was thinking the same thang
So come get on this Kid's rock, Bawitdaba, dang-dang
Pow-pow, chica, pow, chica, wow-wow
Got your gal blowing up a valve, valve-valve
Ain't slowing down, throw in the towel, towel-towel
Dumb it down, I don't know how, huh-huh, how-how

anything he's said that was dope, like the aloan line was used by Killa Cam 13 yrs prior sooooooooooooooooooooooo, the whole song just comes off as a cheesy Beastie Boys mindtrick of a song. not authentic, not gritty, not Eminem. the beat produced by Rick Rubin is his style but the song lacks

[PancakeBrah]

itt: dlb loses his mind.

You're hand picking examples btw, and employing confirmation bias in every post.

[Ghost1]

LOL this thread is the end of dlb.

[oats]

Originally Posted by J. Metts

Eminem is a quarter billionaire thats 40 years old and can barlely go out in public.


gritty is gone man. hes grown. raising kids. he realizes he influences too many people now to be careless with the shit he says.

this. Em trying to be gritty when his life is comfy as fuck would be even worse than the shit we're complaining about now.



newsflash: rap is not a genre that ages well. The fact that this album is arguably his 4th best album is a victory in itself. if you want his old shit, listen to his old albums.

[DLB]

stanism is a religion to u fucks

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Swagneto

stanism is a religion to u fucks

Keep telling yourself it is everybody else who is deluded.

That will help.

[Destroyer]

dlb understand that I do want u as a fan

[Malachi]

lmaooo

[DLB]

u put more effort into that than u have in the NBL, congrats destro

[Ghost1]

Dlb....this thread is giving u brain cancer.

Preserve urself....exit....this thread....

[Ghost1]

umm everytime I said curtain call I meant the Eminem show lmao


I thought the third one was called curtain call for sum reason.....

[Bodey]

Originally Posted by Swagneto

this album never gonna be classic with trashy shit like this

lol fuck, i liked So Far. puts me in a good mood before work. i cant stop playing Headlights though, that song is a trip to listen to, the lyrics sting.

and yes, i know i'm a stan, i'm not gonna argue that. didnt like encore and wasnt really interested in the relapse albums as far as maybe 4 or 5 tracks? so i'm not stanning too hard... but right now.. these days... i'm stanning so bad i leave a stan stain

Originally Posted by Destroyer

dlb understand that I do want u as a fan

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

Originally Posted by Witty

This isn't true, I have seen plenty of the same people who are posting in here to say it is dope say they have hated his other shit since Eminem Show. It is the in thing to hate on Eminem, I personally have always thought he is the most talented lyricist the mainstream has got and has had for a while and maybe ever. I have yet to see or hear anyone do what Eminem does so successfully on the stage he does it on, there are plenty of lyricists who could claim to be as good as or better than Eminem but until they do it at the level he has been doing it at for over a decade they can not realistically be put on that pedestal.

See, what I did there was use a logical argument to refute your tired old stan cliche insult and your recycled opinion you get from message boards to show that in reality, you are the sheep.

It was very impressive, wasn't it?

I'm good at things.

your opinion holds no weight nor logic

also fuck your paragraph shit ho

& for the record, i fux with Em, so your generic 'anything negative about Eminem must be hate' is only showing your lack of ability to think for yourself...but keep tryna project your inabilities & insecurites on other people... your still a joke, the type niggaz laugh at not with

edit - DLB keeping it a thousand like a muhfuka in this thread

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Rugged

your opinion holds no weight nor logic

also fuck your paragraph shit ho

& for the record, i fux with Em, so your generic 'anything negative about Eminem must be hate' is only showing your lack of ability to think for yourself...but keep tryna project your inabilities & insecurites on other people... your still a joke, the type niggaz laugh at not with

edit - DLB keeping it a thousand like a muhfuka in this thread

My opinion is better than anything you will ever think or say in your entire life.

I didn't say what you quoted, moron, I also never projected anything, i don't think you know what that word means, don't use big words you don't understand, all I said was it is the in thing to hate on Eminem, which is true, what did I say that wasn't true?....you aren't good at debate.

You seem to know who I am, who are you?

Did you know that everything you say is horribly wrong?


How much education do you have?

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

why is your name witty when you have like zero of it?

also go write some more paragraph that niggaz barely pay attention tooo where your coming off like a attention deprived no skill having ho...thanx bruddah

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Rugged

why is your name witty when you have like zero of it?

also go write some more paragraph that niggaz barely pay attention tooo where your coming off like a attention deprived no skill having ho...thanx bruddah

Says I have no wit, goes directly for the 'Ur name is witty but you aren't Witty at all hahahahagagavrbdhsbhahah'

My name has nothing to do with being Witty, but congratulations for being the billionth person to jump to that conclusion.

What's that?

That is the sound of you losing miserably.

Also, I am better than you at everything, I post better than you, I write better than you, I live better than you, I know how to discuss things using logic instead of being a sheep better than you.

I am, superior.

[Pakistani Hand Cannon]

keep blowing your own horn holmes cuh aint no-one else doing it...you not coming off like a full blown bitch at all

also when your ready to back up them empty statements you always hollerin, pick up a mic & so me how much better you rap than me...witchya bullshit 'topical' ass lmfao fuck outta here you ho

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Rugged

keep blowing your own horn holmes cuh aint no-one else doing it...you not coming off like a full blown bitch at all

also when your ready to back up them empty statements you always hollerin, pick up a mic & so me how much better you rap than me...witchya bullshit 'topical' ass lmfao fuck outta here you ho

I will be sure to do that, and I will be better than you.

It is genetic.

What was it about my original comment you took offence to tho? Was it that I said you had a recycled opinion? That's what it felt like, I have read hundreds of posts that were basically exactly what you posted...it is the message board mentality. I wasn't trying to insult tho, that's just how I speak to people, next time you want to say something or question something try coming at me like an adult instead of a butthurt child and I will speak to you, and not just purposely be an asshole.

If you want to resort to childishness I am only too happy to oblige.