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nice ad hominem + woody allen life lesson
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lol whatever you say, simpleton
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So, you don't read the letters of christ? timothy is a self proclaimed prophet who says he speaks to god directly on a daily basis and writes down their conversations.
not only that he has made a few "corrections" that have caught the attention of christians worldwide.
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what you think cat ? We can talk about end times too...just want you to weigh in on what was said between me and you.
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Good, because your entire offensive by yielding science as a secure basis of reasoning has just been rendered invalid.
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Yes I have much to discuss about this matter. My good friend Father Eko Bombaata is a respected theologian and geneticist in the mold of Gregor Mendel. Now on the matter of rapture and the origins of the Black Christ Lord YAHWUWAHWAH there is some compelling evidence to indicate its inherent truth. I was doubtful when confronting Fr. Bombaata from my secular perspective, he said consider the following: Deuteronomy 4:11-4 “He commanded you, and feeding you with manna; from these days until those days; when the sacrifice of the LAMB will occur.” Then consider Judges 14:6-7 “For the lamb is pure when placed upon the altar; not before or after its time; in sight of the Kohen Gadol and the purest unborn flesh.” Prophetic and compelling indeed. It is a reference to the coming LORD saviour YAHWUWAHWAH – the lamb who was sacrificed surely the symbology doesn’t need to be spelled out for it to be seen. Now for his appearance; consider Pauls epistle to the Gheylations 15: 2-7 “For look upon his feet they are as dark as brass in flame and his voice runs as deep as many waters.” Does this not paint a compelling and vivid picture? Genetically, consider the following: Genetic complement/gene="yaaUA” AUTUGUTUGUTACCUCUGATUGACTUAGUCAUGCG***TUGUTTTUTUUG CUAUGUAUGACUAUGUAUCUACUTGUGU/function="putative transport; Transport of tyrosine; Melaningenosis." Consider the gene is dated to be active historically in the Levantine region of YAHUWAHWAHS immaculate birth and also concurrently with the current Ethiopian region then known as the Kingdom of Abyssinia – and the Kingdom of Semien the descendants of King Solomon. Now consider the scriptural connotations of Acts 8: 8-10 “For the Most High and the good king are bonded forever; and as David shall rule forever and as Solomon rule forever; each will serve the Most High of their same image.” Their image must match HIS image. Now you see the truth in this statement on a number of different levels. Clearly the following is fact and the written testament shows it is infallible.
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Ham was so called black nation...All "science" recognize this. Ham was one of the sons of Noah coming of the ach after the flood destroyed YAH's creation. (You see a rainbow in the sky ? That is Abba's covenant symbol to let us know he will never destroy his creation again).
Noah had other sons too coming off the ark....Shem and Jahpet. Shem was also the father of Eber. Eber was his great grand child. Eber was the first Hebrew. From Eber we get Abraham, Issac and Jacob. Jacob is the father of the 12 tribes of Ysrael. From his seed and from these 12 brothers, the nation of Ysrael came forth out of Egypt by a mighty hand of YAHUWAH. Ham is the father of the Egyptian, Canaanite and other so called black nations. We know this historically. Moses was mistaken for a Canaanite. Paul, a teacher (Moreh) to the Gentile nations was mistaken for an Egyptian. Joesph the son of Jacob was mistaken for an Egyptian. MessiYAH fled to Egypt as child to hide from King Herod and Roman decree to kill all new borns under 2. He understood prophecies, but not fully...it's deep. The children of Ysrael were a so called black peoples. Where are they today ? We can Identify them according to how it is written in scripture. Oh, the sons of Japhet are the peoples that make up the Gentile nations, or the so called white cats. The "jews" who claim their identity in the land of Israel today are in fact Gentiles, This makes sense, since the many prophecies say Japhet will be enlarged in Shems tent, among hundreds of other witnesses in scriptures. It also comes to no surprise when MessiYAH himself is recorded say, "the jews whom are not, but the synagogue of Satan" Just some thoughts brothers and sisters. Shalom.
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The anit-messiYAH or man of perdition will come... I don't understand the question; can you rephrase it with as much knowledge and understanding and background context as you can ? So I can understand better the question ? No I would not like to debate. The day of YAHUWAH is that terrible day. I do wish to remain friendly, I don't want to get heated. Can you build me a rapture doctrine out the scriptures ? Pretend I never knew and want to learn...build me up. I would vastly appreciate it. I won't debate you, just want to see your understanding.
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In the Hebrew scriptures (whom were a so called black peoples) YAHUWAH Elohim was read every time you see LORD thy GOD. The Gentiles took out the honor and gave it to their idols. Give me your ear. I did not put this study together. This was written by Hebrew Moreh, whom I personally know and study under and with. Many people accept "Jesus" as the correct modern English translation of the name "Yahshua." The fact is that IF it is in fact a correct translation, then that's exactly what it is,... a TRANSLATION. In English or Hebrew, the name "Jesus" did not exist until the 1600's and Yahshua was the name that Miriam (Mary) received from Gabri-el, at the commandment of Yah, to name her son,... AND,... the name that the apostles preached in. This is a FACT whether we want to accept it or not. There are various studies that exist which really explore the reasoning behind the Greeks changing of the Hebrew names. Many of these studies can be found on the internet and shall be explored here. Understand that the language barrier was NOT the issue in the Greeks changing of the Hebrew names. If it was, then everyone that speaks English would know Him as "Joshua," an English translation of Yahshua meaning "Yah is Salvation." In the New Testament, or the "Greek Scriptures" as some call them, they refrained from pronouncing the name of the prophets of the Old Testament. One very glaring "translation" is found in Luke 4:27 where the name "Eliseus" is used instead of Elisha. In the Greek, "Eliseus" means "God (Elohim) is Zeus." Luke 4:27 Quote:
Notice the "z" is there in the name but here in these modern English translations we see an "s" in the name. Translators let the "z" that clearly represent Zeus get past them back in 1611 but they rectified the "deceit" later. The same "s" that they put in Eliseus is the SAME "s" they put in JeSus replacing the "z" that is really Zeus. Zeus and salvation are synonymous to the ancient Greeks. The tie-in brothas and sistas, is that Elizeus to the Greeks mean "God/Elohim saves, because the "sha" in Elisha (the true Hebrew name of the prophet as opposed to Elizeus) means saves just as "shua" in Joshua or Yahshua means "saves." To the Greeks, salvation is of ZEUS. So the point is that Jesus is neither transliterated NOR translated from Yahshua, Yeshua, Yahoshua, or any Hebrew rendering/dialect of the name Yahshua because, Zeus saves no one! Another interesting passage is Hebrews 4:8 Quote:
In the liner notes of most bibles, and even in other versions, they tell you that the original name there was "Joshua" which is translated from "Yahshua." This is similar to the passage where "Easter" is substituted for "Passover." Acts 12:4 Quote:
Easter, which is named after the Teutonic goddess of fertility "Eostre," is in no way translated from Passover. Yet another interesting passage is found in Acts 7:45 Quote:
What does this verse mean? Think about it. Where you see "Jesus" in this passage, it was originally "Yahshua" because you can clearly see that Joshua the son of Nun, and the successor to Moshe (Moses) was who was being referred to here as the one that brought the tabernacle of witness into the possession of the "Gentiles." The Gentile/European scribes were so quick to substitute the name of Messiah, for their Hellenized version that they totally mistranslated this verse. The word "nations" should have also been placed in this passage instead of "Gentiles" because the land that they brought the tabernacle of witness into was of the Philistines, who were not Gentiles. The Gentiles are the sons of Japheth according to Genesis 10:5. The Philistines descended from Ham. Look in the liner notes in your Bible and you will see the corrections. Before the 1600's, "Jesus" was pronounced closer to the way the LATIN-OS (LATINOS) pronounce it today (Hey-ZEUS). This also begs a question as to why/when they decided to change the long "u" sound as in truth, (Zeus), to the short "u" sound, as in lust, (Jesus). Does that sound like a coincidence or something that just happened? Earlier, we saw the name "Elisha" translated to Eliseus. Now the "s" in the middle of this Greek translated word sounds exactly like the "s" in the middle of Jesus, which is a "Z" sound. Check the pronunciations in your reference books (je' zus). The "Z" was replaced with an "S". You don't think so? Then note Revelation 14:1 Quote:
Names should not be neither translated nor transliterated! When you transliterate a name from one language to another, then you're taking the letters/symbols of one language and replacing it with the letters/symbols of another language. In the second language, you end up having a word that has a very different meaning in that language. Names, especially Hebrew names have meaning. Here in America, news broadcasts always call foreign people by their original names in their own tongues. Sometimes names are contracted or shortened but it's shortened from it's own original tongue. Psalm 68:4 Quote:
We see the name YAHUWAH (YHWH) shortened to Yah here in this passage. Even Yahshua is actually a shortened form of Yahoshua, Yahshua more than likely being the more popular rendering in the Hebrew/Aramaic time of Yahshua the Messiah. Some people argue over the fact that there are many different translations of the rendering of Yahshua. (Yahshua, Yeshua, Yahoshua) The Hebrew language is a language that has evolved according to time and region. Much of today's Hebrew has been handed down by oral tradition. Case-in-point, many of the Israelites in Yahshua's day spoke an Aramaic Hebrew, which was a bit different from the Hebrew that Moses spoke. English is also a language that evolved. Not only was a new letter added to the English language in the 16th century (J) but rarely in American cities where English is the primary language do you find someone that speaks "the King's English." Some people in England speak "the King's English" but even in England there are variant styles/dialects. Even in the original 1611 KJV, which included the Apocrypha, no letter "J" in Iesus, (Jesus), you find a harder-to-read version of the Bible for those of us not familiar with 17th century English as we saw in the earlier example. Now with these examples of an evolving language, not withstanding, let's take a look at the name Yahshua yet again. We read clearly how it was translated to Joshua in the English, but even in the Bible we can see variations of THAT name. Numbers 13:16 Quote:
When you look up the name Jesus in most reference books it states along with the pronunciation (je' zus), that the name is Greek for "savior". Hmmm.....Two questions. What's missing in this name? Whose salvation does the name allude to? Hmmmmm...... Another interesting point is that, as mentioned earlier, Jesus is a GREEK name, NOT English. How many people do you know that spoke only English for the first thirteen years of their life, are named Jesus? How many of that same classification of people that you know are named Joshua? Many are named Joshua because Joshua is a common English name. How many people, of the Latin persuasion, are named "Jesus" ...pronounced (Hey-Zeus)? Again, quite a few Latinos are named Jesus. All of these points are something to really consider. When we praise YAHUWAH, Yah and Yahshua, we proclaim the name of the Elohim of Israel. Yah is found in many of the prophets and kings names like Isaiah, Zechariah, Jeremiah, and Elijah. Also, in the praise, Hallelujah. Now...if your English translated Bible is written entirely in English, then why in the Old Testament you see Jeremiah, Isaiah, and Zechariah, but in the New Testament, you have Jeremy, Esaias, and Zecharias? The Greeks clearly took the name of Yah out of these prophets' names. Another "coincidence?" "God" is actually NOT a name but is a type of a being just like "man" or "angel." Somewhere along the line, the "Jewish" people thought it was superstitious to say the name of Elohim so they invented variations of the name. This is part of the reason why the El of Israel's name is not in most versions of the New Testament, which was primarily translated from the Greek. Today, you find the same group of people that addresses the Messiah as "Yeshua," also writes God as "G-d." As stated earlier, "God" is not a name, so if these people are prohibited from spelling "G-o-d," then you can understand why they don't say/print the true name of the Elohim of Israel. Yah/YAHUWAH would also not be spoken or written. The Greeks, in all actuality, COULD have preserved the original form of the names. Let's take a closer look at the way the heathen changes names to reflect them. YAHUWAH blessed Joseph to be an interpreter of dreams. Having been taken captive in Egypt, Yah allows Joseph to interpret Pharaohs dream, and in turn, Pharaoh makes him a vice-ruler in Egypt. In this blessing, Pharaoh bestows on Joseph, the wise Israelite, a name of an Egyptian deity. Genesis 41:41-43 Quote:
This is the beginning of a vicious cycle of the heathens taking wise Israelites and replacing their names with names that reflect their heathen deities. Daniel 1:6-7 Quote:
Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; ("Bel's Prince") and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; ("Illuminated by the Sun") and to Mishael, of Meshach; ("Who is like Shach?") and to Azariah, of Abednego. (The Servant of Nego) Daniel 4:8 Quote:
Even the Hebrew names of Paul and Barnabas were not enough for the heathens who were compelled to call these two Hebrews by their deities. Acts 14:11-15 Quote:
As was stated before, the Greeks COULD have wrote the Hebraic names in their translations. They didn't primarily, not because it was a matter of language, but a matter of worshipping their same deities while using the Hebrew scriptures. Hellenizing the truth! Also note that "Esther" is also a Babylonian goddess (Ishtar) that was given to the Hebrew maiden whose name was really Haddassah. Esther 2:5-7 Quote:
How many witnesses do you need to understand that the Gentiles were NOT going to allow the Israelites to continue to bare the name, and give glory to YAH with their names, BUT give them names reflecting their deities?! Not only was the name Yahshua reduced to the Greek deity Zeus by the name Jesus, but the translators also did not want people to know or use YHWH (YAHUWAH). Every where you read "LORD God" in the Bible, it was actually "YAHUWAH Elohim" The "LORD God" is not a name. By putting the correct name in the scriptures, the scriptures come alive. Notice: Exodus 20: 1-2, 7 Quote:
Question! Who is "the" LORD thy God?" Who is "the" man upstairs? What is the NAME of "the" LORD thy God that we are commanded to not take his name, whatever name that is, in vain? Exodus 20: 1-2, 7 Quote:
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What was the name that the people of forgotten? YHWH (YAHUWAH) is the name. Many Bibles, and other religious sources, reveal that "the LORD" that you see in Bibles were put in place of the tetragrammaton YHWH, which in ENGLISH is YAHUWAH, which was further mistransliterated as Jehovah. Also, many references show that "LORD" is actually translated from BA'AL. The Greeks and the Romans have historically, tried to erase all semblances of ethnic culture that was contrary to their own. The same reason the Sphinx's facial features were blown off is the same reasons why the names of most of the Hebrews that are mentioned in the New Testament were given European titles. Mary, Peter, John, and Paul . . . could you imagine a "pope" called Hezekiah? Have you ever heard of the Virgin Miriam? YAHUWAH asks Jeremiah 2:11 Quote:
The unfortunate bottom line is... no. The nations have NOT changed their "gods." The same Zeus (pale-faced, blue-eyed Jesus! Remember... "Raw and Uncut!) that the pagans worshipped, the same Ba'al (LORD) that the Canaanites worshipped, along with the pagan rituals of sun worship, saviors birthday worship... Mithra, Zeus/Jesus, (Christmas) Fard Muhammad (Nation of Islam's Savior's Day), Fertility worship, Easter, Astarte, Ishtar (Easter eggs and bunny rabbits) ARE (WHE-E-E-WW!!!� �"deep breath"..) the same deities that these religious organizations have been deceived by Satan to practice in these last days, separating us from YAHUWAH, the creator of heaven and earth. If the name "YAHUWAH or Yahshua" offends you, I apologize for that. You are not the first, nor shall you be the last to be "offended by his namesake." This is a serious study that I wanted to share and quite frankly, if you can appreciate the truth that was presented thus far then, you will definitely appreciate what's coming next. In the meantime, I pray that Yah bless you with the desire to want the fruits of the Spirit so that you may see the Gospel of Yahshua. Peace
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By my account the burden of proof is on you sayong thay the rapture aolint biblical. I asked three questions which yiu could not amswer with scriptures pertaining to the topic amd you neglected the tjird question
In your long brewkdown the first sentence said that the day of the lord is at the first trumpet of the trumpet judgements..... My advice to you is study more amd stop trying to be enlightened and diff. I await your amswers
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The burden is on you because the rapture doctrine is not in scriptures. I've been looking for it. You use one verse of a letter to show this...that is a joke, right ? This letter is not addresed to you. You have to know what Paul was talking about in a historical context. Paul did not teach contrary to the scriptures (so called OT)...your understanding is not there yet, I say this respectuflly.
You gave one verse out one letter ? What about the totality of scripture ? I am not trying to be enlightening, but trying to be THE LIGHT to show you the truth. This is my passion, to serve the creator in SPIRIT and in TRUTH. I'm not a hipster douche bag lol I will put together an understanding when time allows.
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im not sure when or where you started - but the end goal should be the same. stop.
Can you please: 1. link US to your DOPEST VERSE EVER, and subsequently: 2. expound on the fact that you live 20 minutes from me, and yet root for the Baltimore Ravens. at this juncture --- I am clearly far more interested in making fun of your "dopest writing ever" (and/or the fact that you don't have anything DOPE to show for your YEARS of text battling)... Have you ever written anything?? Or do you just sit around at the local coffee tavern in canton waiting for something exciting to happen, around you? Apologies if this came off harsh --- but I remember your name from PR as someone who talks shit but has never posted ANYTHING meaningful -- and possibly, has never posted anything. Looking forward to your response, and you're propensity to say something and do less. the only thing LAMER than me rocking the wonderful world of "text" for a decade is dudes like you, who been around to witness it but not experience it for themselves. I want to mix your throat into my veal sweetbreads. Tell me when and where, and I will probably come at my leisure with nothing but a few jokes and an appetite. Again, LINK US TO YOUR DOPEST SHIT EVER, uh-oh!!!! I'm very, very, excited to see what you have to offer, since you been reading my shit for a decade and I still have not been blessed with the opportunity to return the favor.
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when Enoch was taken up before the people, i bet it blew their mindz
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