01-09-2020, 11:03 AM | #61 |
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You guys have the best looking leader by a long shot. That beard got me thinking.
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01-09-2020, 12:07 PM | #62 |
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I don't believe in the predictions. I'm still waiting on flying cars doggie.
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Do you believe 5 million manufacturing jobs have been lost here because of trade deals like NAFTA?
And hopefully you realize there's a million reasons they wouldn't implement flying cars for the public any time soon, most having to do with power and control, and that implementing AI to save corporations money on wages and boost productivity/profit margins is exactly in line with the hypercapitalist system we live in right now? |
01-09-2020, 01:03 PM | #64 |
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Flying cars can’t happen until we’ve achieved absolute world piece
We wouldn’t want Iranian missiles taking them out of the sky by mistake |
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when ai takes over in 300 years just legalize prostitution
don't tax me bro
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We’ll have self driving cars first. Those are not so far away. Amazon is already trailing self driving trucks.
The proposal is to finance the UBI with a ‘value added tax’ (VAT), not an income tax. Basically every other country has a VAT already. It applies to ‘luxury items’ but not basic necessities. So you’d pay an extra 10% for your new computer but not for your groceries or rent or electricity.
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i'm not for any taxes of any sort. the less money the government has of ours the better we all are
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bro are u serious lol people and rideshare / shuttle services are using self driving cars in america right now
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So how do you pay for, say, the military?
Also I didn’t get an answer from you earlier - do you think all welfare programs should be scrapped, or that where it’s at currently is about right and it shouldn’t be changed?
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but in all seriousness i think the government needs drastically stripped down to where its only military/fire/police/justice system. but in a perfect world the fire and police could be privatized as well. also everything would be decriminalized as far as victimless crimes go.
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barely, and its ridiculously limited. pretending like we're right around the corner from autonomous 18 wheelers is disingenuous.
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Also, you can’t privatize a nation’s military. How do you propose to pay for that?
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also the second amendment is to overthrow a tyrannical government, not some rich guy you're envious of because you did nothing with your life but wish the house on the hill was yours instead of working for one. any person i've ever met who was on welfare, is on welfare. there is no incentive to get off it. i'd be for trying out a system where you have to do some type of work to receive it. like community service or something but again, the government shouldn't be a factor in your life.
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Yeah, so you still have to pay a decent amount of tax to finance that. You’re ok with that?
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if the majority of people who receive welfare had to work to receive it they would just get a job and work for a living. it would truly go to those that need it. but i don't like that idea either, im just spitballing if people are concerned about the welfare of people unfit to work, some enterprising young gentlemen or woman could create a charity that would help them. it shouldn't be mandated under the threat of violence (taxes).
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And how do you stop the people who are just lazy and don’t really need welfare from getting that money from charities any better than you stop them from getting money from the government? I agree these people exist and are a problem, I don’t think they’re the majority like you do but yeah a significant number, sure. I just think the UBI is the best solution. People who leech off the existing welfare system leech off a different system instead, but people who currently work for a living get the same payment, so now they have the option of working to thrive/get ahead instead of working to just get by. And the people who actually need welfare are taken care of too. Plus it’s way more efficient than a welfare system that depends on your circumstances.
I’d be cool with a system that replaced income and company tax with a larger VAT, which wouldn’t apply to necessities like food and rent. Then no one is taking anyone’s money under threat of violence/imprisonment. You choose to buy luxury items, and pay a little more for them. That’s a way more efficient tax system too. Do away with trying to legislate away and administrate and close loopholes that people exploit to avoid tax.
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bro its painful to know you think there aren't people who get welfare and work
i literally do not know one person who gets welfare and doesn't work, i know dozens of moms age 28-35 who work 40-50 hours a week and barely qualify for a few hundred bucks assistance. dozens of people who can't work from injuries or health reasons, people who worked their entire lives, full time, and are now flat broke from medical bills, etc. like there are an endless amount of examples, you sound so naive pretending people on welfare don't work |
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All this talk about welfare but nobody wants to address the elephant in the room huh?
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