God bless Alabama

[Destroyer]

I mean your post title implies belief in god, so realistically, I will already discount everything you say. Funny how you speak of double digit IQs yet profess belief in a higher power in your post title

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

I mean your post title implies belief in god, so realistically, I will already discount everything you say. Funny how you speak of double digit IQs yet profess belief in a higher power in your post title

It was more of a Merica thing

I see God and Jesus as Merica lore

[Miss Netcees]

God bless you

[Destroyer]

What the fuck does that have to do with an individual’s right to their own bodily autonomy?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

What the fuck does that have to do with an individual’s right to their own bodily autonomy?

Because I need this, and you can provide without harm, you must give

I'm an organ donor and blood donor cus I'm a good person so maybe I'm not as heated about your argument as you are

[Destroyer]

Tell me you believe an 11 year old rape victim should be forced to carry that baby to term

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Tell me you believe an 11 year old rape victim should be forced to carry that baby to term

I think they just kept it out so it was extreme enough that when challenged they'll end up with something viable so not taking that to seriously

Why do you care about rape victims but not babies?

[Destroyer]

fetuses aren’t babies
To me, an 11 year-old is

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

fetuses aren’t babies
To me, an 11 year-old is

We won't agree on your first point ever so eh

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by seth

We won't agree on your first point ever so eh

True, I suppose that’s why if you’re wife had a miscarriage that would effect you the same as if your son died tomorrow, right?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

True, I suppose that’s why if you’re wife had a miscarriage that would effect you the same as if your son died tomorrow, right?

That’s a bit harsh and unnecessary argument

You pro choice folk are really filled with rage

My grandparent, parent, close friends etc would affect me different too guess we’ll string em up outside

[Objective]

Originally Posted by seth

That’s a bit harsh and unnecessary argument

You pro choice folk are really filled with rage

For those of us that have seen the mental downfall of a rape victim in our close circle the shit you're spewing is rage inducing. No way that girl would have survived living with that fetus inside her reminding her constantly about what happened on top of PTSD and nearly dying. Some of us get enraged because we know how fucking destructive those thoughts and ways of thinking can be for people.

Not everyone that deal with traumatic situations like rape by finding comfort in the child their bearing and bringing it to life as a way to move on and have something positive to focus on. For others that shit means literal Hell and keeping them back from getting past it all. And God knows there ain't enough parents that adopt kids, or enough places to house the kids mothers don't want properly.

You can't forget about the people living trying to make the best of it the way they know how. Forcing that shit on people is beyond incomprehensible for me. Perhaps we just have different life experiences. You're allowed to have your opinion but I feel it's definitely wrong to force it on people.

In terms of whether or not fetuses are people I believe consciousness is needed. A functioning brain isn't even there yet, the body is just body things at this point. I do not think it is a person yet, and it is morally OK to get rid of it rather than forcing someone to life that'll take its toll on everyone. (Tax payers money, the kids that'll have to grow up in the foster care system, the parents, rape victims, teenagers being teenagers and not thinking things through, etc.)

[Destroyer]

You’re not mandated to be one
That’s the difference

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

You’re not mandated to be one
That’s the difference

I wouldn't care personally

And all political stances and laws/regulations should be based on my personal preferences because I'm special and important so bring it on man

[Destroyer]

I mean, why can’t you just engage with that argument?
You say it’s harsh, but is it false?
The crux of your argument is that it kills babies
I’m saying, no, it doesn’t, and I’m giving you a simple example that you can relate to in order to at least try to get you to look at how it maybe isn’t that black and white
In turn, you bring up some off the wall shit about stringing up grandparents. That’s not the subject here. It’s if fetuses are babies and if you think they are, then you must believe your feelings about the above hypothetical would remain identical. If you can concede that they would not, which it seems you have, then why is that?

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

I mean, why can’t you just engage with that argument?
You say it’s harsh, but is it false?
The crux of your argument is that it kills babies
I’m saying, no, it doesn’t, and I’m giving you a simple example that you can relate to in order to at least try to get you to look at how it maybe isn’t that black and white
In turn, you bring up some off the wall shit about stringing up grandparents. That’s not the subject here. It’s if fetuses are babies and if you think they are, then you must believe your feelings about the above hypothetical would remain identical. If you can concede that they would not, which it seems you have, then why is that?

It's a nonargument is the issue. You need to do better if you want that buzzfeed job.

Your situational dilemma holds no weight in this discussion. It would be different because of an emotional progression, not because one isn't a life.

Would it equally affect you if your toddler died as if you had another child and it died within days of being born?

Don't lie here Freud

[Destroyer]

I don’t know
I’d have to have that happen
What I have had happen is my wife miscarrying 6 weeks in
And while I was disappointed, I didn’t lose a child
because there was no child yet
Why you seem to think your feelings matter enough to rule over the future, and not even your own future, but someone else’s, really just blows my mind
If you think that babies are dying every time they are being aborted, what the hell are you doing to prevent this mass genocide from occurring besides spouting alpha male bullshit on the internet? You should be out there blowing up abortion clinics fighting for the unborn, pussy.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

I don’t know
I’d have to have that happen
What I have had happen is my wife miscarrying 6 weeks in
And while I was disappointed, I didn’t lose a child
because there was no child yet
Why you seem to think your feelings matter enough to rule over the future, and not even your own future, but someone else’s, really just blows my mind
If you think that babies are dying every time they are being aborted, what the hell are you doing to prevent this mass genocide from occurring besides spouting alpha male bullshit on the internet? You should be out there blowing up abortion clinics fighting for the unborn, pussy.

You're an actual idiot. No wonder buzzfeed won't take you in.

Also, you're just maybe more cynical than me? A bigger piece of shit? Idk. I'm not disagreeing it would be different, but I am disagreeing that the miscarriage is nothing. My wife had one too, probably around then as well. It still affects me, since I value life and it's potential. You clearly don't. :shrugemoji:

And that's the difference between level headed people and morons like you, I don't think my feelings should dictate anything, I think general morals should. YOU think your feelings and opinions should dictate it. But, you also have maybe 2 original thoughts in the political realm so it's not that important a thing to discuss anyway.

[Blue Bayou]

Damn at Des just owning Seth in this thread

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by Blue Bayou

Damn at Des just owning Seth in this thread

By bringing up an argument that got shit on when the parameters were tilted the slightest and defaulting back to facebook vomit argument 7?