01-24-2019, 11:31 PM | #1 |
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How to write a bar, and the basic components of any bar, should go like this:
1. Concept (oronym, homonym, metonymy, etc) 2. Proliferations (tie ins, set up/payoffs, scheme working.) 3. Multisyllabic rhymes, wording, etc. This is why homonym/oronym logs and rhyme logs are useful. You can do step 1 and 3 without relation and later connect them, which helps with step 2 immensely |
01-25-2019, 06:15 AM | #2 |
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how to write a bar
1.be dope 2.cut half your syllables 3.delete txt file
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01-25-2019, 02:22 PM | #4 |
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I didn't know retards had emptions tho...this changes everything
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01-25-2019, 02:26 PM | #5 |
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if this needs to be said....there is no formula to dope artwork
ur so far removed from the culture of hiphop its really useless for u to even attempt an interpretation on it.....let alone attempts to break it down into a formulaic blueprint to help u realize it in actual practice this shit out of your reach u don't deserve to have it anyways. its beyond u. |
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01-26-2019, 11:58 PM | #7 | |
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Either: 1. “Dope artwork” is completely “subjective” and there’s no real “dope artwork” 2. It’s not subjective, there are some quantifiable, measurable, objective things to it, in which case 3. In can be formulized |
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01-27-2019, 12:06 AM | #8 |
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Aight let's fucking go
1. How are we defining art/music/lyrics? 2. What, within these definitions, are measureable and objective? 3. Is it possible that there is a formula unique to each person experiencing the artwork? Yeah man I re-read Dewey's Art As Experience recently and I'm jazzed enough to put that shit in ITALICS |
01-27-2019, 02:14 AM | #9 | |
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Music is obv mathematically based in a sense and so we won’t get into that. It’s a possibility there’s a “unique formula” to everyone, but there’s also a better formula and a worse one when taking 2 and comparing. Within the context of a grammatical system, density is measurable in allot of aspects. Rhyme density is your rhyming syllables/total syllables count (RS/TS), double entendre’s are just 2 concepts being condensed into 1 sentence, tho density isn’t the only thing. This is the main problem with really vague metaphors. |
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01-27-2019, 09:29 AM | #10 |
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Everything is math if you break it down enough dude
But right there, better and worse, is subjective. When to rhyme vs when not to. When to use wordplay vs when not to. Content. You're not gonna crack the universal code since there isn't one |
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01-27-2019, 02:39 PM | #12 |
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Also better and worse isn’t subjective by definition, nor is it subjective here. Some systems will create better forms and more efficiently than others. Going from foundation to 3rd story is way harder in reverse. |
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Sure, but there's also an artist's intent to consider. Art is full of people looking for the ugly, absurd, 'bad', etc in different media because it doesn't exist in a vacuum. Think Piss Christ or Kanye's 'scoop Diddy woop poop' verse. There's a different 'formula' for different context which is why you can't, in any sweeping statement, settle in a formula for art
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This formula only refers to the form and technique, the structure, I completely agree no formula can be applied to creativity. Doing ‘bad’ isn’t a form of doing ‘good’ in any context |
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This thread would be more appropriate if I made it.
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I should have clarified, tho it does seem obv b/c of step one, that this only applies to bars with themes/concepts, in which case it can be applied to a singular bar or multiple |
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dms should commit the j, dont make threads, no way, ur formula is trash |
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