Real Shit...

[Ghost1]

If I can get u to entertain Christianity nfor only a moment.......

Just long enough to entertain the thought of zelph reaching heaven


Only to realize his lip is still cleft even in his soul.....loooooool

[PancakeBrah]

Its fucked because the soul is actually located in the upper lip.

[Ghost1]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Its fucked because the soul is actually located in the upper lip.

Lmfaoosjxnx

[Inno]

Originally Posted by PancakeBrah

Its fucked because the soul is actually located in the upper lip.

Lmao plz don’t stop posting

[Amen]

Your souls are going to hell, lol.

[Destroyer]

Conveniently for me, I don’t believe in hell either

[Chyeahhh!!!]

I believe the soul resides in your junk DNA

[~RustyGunZ~]

I don’t think there’s enough evidence to support any claim as fact

I’d like to see memory testing in cloned animals (does a cloned dog know how to shake/play dead or remember an owner)

I’d assume the mind is just information in the brain. They aren’t the same but are dependent on each other.

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

I’d like to see memory testing in cloned animals (does a cloned dog know how to shake/play dead or remember an owner)

it wouldn't work like that. when you clone an animal you basically create a copy. its more of an identical twins scenario. while the animals would share the same dna, they wouldn't live the same life. the cloned animal wouldn't have learned any tricks or have any knowledge of the owner who taught them.

the strange shit comes with memory passed down through ancestry. like cats reacting to cucumbers. elephants knowing where water holes are and countless other examples i can't think of.

shit thats passed on without being communicated.

[~RustyGunZ~]

Originally Posted by uh-oh

it wouldn't work like that. when you clone an animal you basically create a copy. its more of an identical twins scenario. while the animals would share the same dna, they wouldn't live the same life. the cloned animal wouldn't have learned any tricks or have any knowledge of the owner who taught them.

the strange shit comes with memory passed down through ancestry. like cats reacting to cucumbers. elephants knowing where water holes are and countless other examples i can't think of.

shit thats passed on without being communicated.

Is that proven yet in successful cloning?

[uh-oh]

Originally Posted by Knucklehead

Is that proven yet in successful cloning?

yea they've been cloning shit mad long. specifically dogs and cats and such.

its literally just dna put in an egg hosted by a surrogate that becomes a new version of the thing

but its a blank slate. the likelihood of the dog even acting the same is different. certain shit will be the same, anything genetic, like prey drive, or propensities to certain moods etc but everything learned would be completely different. and every interaction etc. pushes them off course from the original. if it gets yelled at as a puppy for pissing if the original just got moved or something for example

its basically identical twins. not the same being exactly. the mind is simply how that creature individually perceives the world.

[Destroyer]

The mind and soul aren’t interchangeable terms

[Cred]

On @Amens body his dick is located in his mouth.

[Ghost1]

Originally Posted by Cred

On @Amens body his dick is located in his mouth.

Lmaoooooo reps when I'm at desktop

[Amen]

Originally Posted by Cred

On @Amens body his dick is located in his mouth.

Lol what?

[veritas]

So....who would like to engage with me in this discussion?

[Witty]

@Ghost 1 I agree...it's not really something that comes down to opinion....here's the real question....is the separation between brain and mind a phenomena of evolution or the supernatural?

I think we experience this because our brains are so much more advanced than any other living being on earth, like it's not even close....the human brain is the most advanced system known in the universe. Including the universe it's fucking self. The evidence of this is that we contemplate the universe. That's a crazy thing for us to be doing. Evidence suggests that the only way for our primate ancestors to not just stay alive, but thrive...was to be the smartest....we were never the strongest, or the biggest (still aren't, a lion gon' fuck us up...but we use our brains to trap that lion and make it our bitch) but we were the most intelligent...and it just kept growing. The reason we are top of the food chain is undoubtedly our brains. Out of that evolution came the mind...from which came the natural outcome of pushing the brain to it's limits...consciousness. I believe (and I guess you don't) that it could have happened to any moderately intelligent animal back in the day....it just so happened it was our ancestors.

[Ghost1]

I hate to raise semantics but.... We need to define supernatural to have this discussion.... supernatural: 1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe especially

Ok.....aside from that....I don't believe in macro evolution, the irreducible complexity argument dismantles Darwin imho....micro evolution I'll accept because the evidence exists irrefutably

The study of evolutionary psychology pertaining to the mind is fascinating to me.... But it's more just interesting philosophical rhetoric at this stage

So I mean witty has done it....he has dragged it out of me.....lol yes...I think the mind is God ......and the Christian god AT THAT..... But I've been clear on that for years now

Now THAT I don't say factually....but it is what I believe

[Witty]

Originally Posted by Ghost1

I hate to raise semantics but.... We need to define supernatural to have this discussion.... supernatural: 1 : of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe especially

Ok.....aside from that....I don't believe in macro evolution, the irreducible complexity argument dismantles Darwin imho....micro evolution I'll accept because the evidence exists irrefutably

The study of evolutionary psychology pertaining to the mind is fascinating to me.... But it's more just interesting philosophical rhetoric at this stage

So I mean witty has done it....he has dragged it out of me.....lol yes...I think the mind is God ......and the Christian god AT THAT..... But I've been clear on that for years now

Now THAT I don't say factually....but it is what I believe

I didn't mean to drag anything out of you man lol I guess I've known your stance for a while now...and I respect it. I wanted to discuss it. I disagree that the irreducible complexity argument dismantles Darwin....I think Darwin did not have all the answers, but asked all the correct questions, I disagree that the evidence for macro evolution exists any less than the evidence for micro evolution...it's all there man...but nonetheless, I am getting more drunk by the minute and I will cease my argument here because soon it will become incomprehensible.

I respect what you believe, and I see your reasons for believing it...I just disagree. I love you. Bitch.

[Ghost1]

I love u harder fagot